WIBU: DH & Sourdough supplies

[Jellywife]

Just had a row with DH.

Our flour is stored in labelled canisters across two shelves. DH typically moves the plain/sf flours to the higher less accessible shelf when he (daily) tops up his sourdough with bread flour. I know to check the labels carefully before I bake.

I’ve baked three times with the kids this fortnight and will be making pastry tomorrow for a family party. As such, I’ve moved the bread flour up so I could more easily get the sf/plain.

He's just burst in while I’m wfh and barrelled out of the house slamming doors because his pizza dough is ruined as he poured in self raising and he needs to buy more yeast to continue.

He’s now apologised for his temper but is adamant ‘his’ flour should always be kept in the same place.

WIBU to move it?

The flour should be left in one place though. Not constantly moving between the shelves.

Is 'getting the Ooni out' some sort of euphemism?

The standard flours have been there for years- the sourdough has been in play for about 6mo

Not until he apologises!

If you moved the flour from its normal place, then I am with your husband on this. I would be annoyed.

Caveat: I am very unreasonable.

You're brilliant! @Jellywife I've been laughing at your posts 😂

Respect the honesty Unreasonable Johnson

Essentially he's unilaterally annexed the lower shelves for his fancy flours. He's in the same position as any usurper and invader and can't really complain if he's met with resistance. Who made him the king of the cupboard?

Move it. Regularly. It'll turn into a sort of game, which you'll both come to enjoy - it will enhance your relationship, and you'll both live happily ever after, eating sourdough together 😀

If that’s what he needs to stop such distressing events happening to him, who would complain 🤷‍♀️. Perhaps the DC have some lurid skibidi or brainrot stickers going spare, you could adorn his canister - and his alone, no need to waste a good sticker - with a couple of dozen of those.

@Jellywife So is his fetish for making sourdough pizza relatively new? plain and self raising are the ones most in use in my kitchen ( though I am the one who uses them the most) it would annoy the shit out of me if dh moved it up to a higher shelf!! I tend to keep the bread flour behind the other flours. I have trouble even reaching the cereals if he pushes the boxes to the back!! thank goodness for tongs! he needs to act his age and not his shoe size!

I think his age is his European shoe size 😁

Where were the flours before the sourdough obsession? Has he basically re-arranged the shelf for his convenience? I do get the convenience argument, but also I get the pay attention to what you're doing argument.

always check the flour (I have 3 or 4 types like anyone who cooks a lot, plus other similar-enough powders all in plastic containers (because otherwise stuff gets into the paper packets) so the kids know to check they have the right one before using one.

I'm 5' tall, I've already made it clear to my sons that the stuff I use the most goes on the low shelves, and the stuff only they use goes on the high ones.

Lastly, the pizza dough would have been fine. Maybe not completely perfect, but it would have been absolutely OK in the pizza.

Yes the sovereign borders of the flour shelf were not respected and previous inhabitants were forcibly relocated

Mine aren't always even labelled.. I'll scribble on in a permanent marker (mine are hidden in a cupboard so that's fine), but it does eventually rub off, and apart from plain/SR/bread flour it's not hard to tell the difference between the cornflour, icing sugar, bicarb, semolina, ground almonds/sugar/salt etc. so I consider it an educational opportunity for the kids that sometimes they have to play 'guess the substance' when they want to make something :)

Just keep them in the bags. Then they're auto colour coded.

He did make a sponge with salt instead of sugar once, actually. It didn’t rise and was slightly grey…

FFS give him a break. He uses his daily, you don't. He went for it automatically as he does it every day then had a brief outburst of frustration which he then apologised for. You're now on Mumsnet ridiculing him.

Well, i am with him in that things should be kept in the same place.

However i am very firmly of the opinion that things are accessible according to how much and who uses them. In our house (sourdough is A Thing here too) that means that the bread making things are on one shelf, and the cake making things are on another. We are the same height though so it's not a massive issue.

So: you both need to agree what goes where. And then keep it there.

To be fair to both sides, if one of my children (since I don't have a partner) unilaterally re-arranged some kitchen shelves for their convenience, then got cross with me when I didn't realise that they didn't want me to keep using it the way I always had, I do think a bit of discussion would be had.

My son has a hot chocolate most nights, so his hot chocolate has joined the teabags and coffee on the little drinks tray, ousting the little squash collection there used to be there. Which is fine, but if it had been done unilaterally, and he declared his hot chocolate must always be at the front, that would be a step too far.

I feel I’m ridiculing us not just him but perhaps that’s not coming across. I was annoyed at his outburst but I’m not asking if I should leave him!

I have suggested we clear out the ‘drinks’ cupboard of the decade old creme de menthe etc and put all the sourdough bits in there together. He’s considering this- it is above the bins cupboard but he does accept the starter is a bit messy looking to have on the open shelving

Oh for goodness sake has he thought about looking at the label?

He'd hate my house - all types of flour (including special French bread flour that only my oldest son uses) are in various places, plus their gluten free counterparts so we have a LOT of flour jars and you have to check every time. Coeliac disease really keeps you on your toes so nobody ever uses flour without checking and double checking it's the right one!

when i moved into my first house my mum said "be careful where you put things, especially in the kitchen. Make sure the place you put things when you move in, is where they need to be always. Because you will NEVER change it"

And, 40 odd years later, yep.

Reorganising the drinks cupboard is good, i did that recently. And got rid of a load of stuff. And found a load of liqueurs etc that we had a small snifter of every evening-ish until they were gone. Much more manageable now.