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to think nearly 14 months is a bit too early for the TERRIBLE TWOS to start...

47 replies

PuppyMonkey · 30/05/2008 10:25

... can someone tell DD2 she shouldn't yet be having massive rolling on the floor tantrums if she doesn't get her own way. She's not supposed to to that for another year or so is she?

Thank you.

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CarGirl · 30/05/2008 10:26

14 months not uncommon age to start IME (unfortunately)

PuppyMonkey · 30/05/2008 10:30

Damn

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LMAsMummy · 30/05/2008 10:32

Tragically, I agree with cargirl. Sorry!! (dd2 started at 16 months.)

Habbibu · 30/05/2008 10:32

What happened? I think at this stage it's frustration, and you can sometimes head them off at the pass by giving them prior warning of what's about to change.

spicemonster · 30/05/2008 10:35

Oh yes mine also started a few weeks ago. I have given him a stern talking to about developmental progress but he's paid no attention.

Happily they don't happen very often.

Pannacotta · 30/05/2008 10:35

Agree that its probably frustration, however, DS2 is only 12 months and is prone to screaming if he wants something and cant have it, so not too sure really what it is! He also rocks his highchair like mad when he wants to get out and rips bibs off etc etc
Was a bit shocked myself at it starting so young...

PuppyMonkey · 30/05/2008 10:37

Well, Hab, it's all coincided with her learning how to walk. She thinks she's IT now, I reckon.

She does this banging on her head on the floor tantrum thing. And shrieking if anything that she doesn't like happens. Tripping over, dropping a toy, being told she can't eat the batteries from our TV remote control...

DD1 never did this . But DD1 did have a dummy, and Devil Child, I mean DD2 doesn't.

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Habbibu · 30/05/2008 10:38

Ah. Distraction any good?

MrsTittleMouse · 30/05/2008 10:38

Oh no it isn't! Sorry about that.

PuppyMonkey · 30/05/2008 10:42

Distraction works eventually (usually a round of Wind the Bobbin up)... after about ten minutes... Still v.embarassing when you're in Tesco's

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Mij · 30/05/2008 10:58

DD started losing it at 10 months, but after about a truly horrible week I tried very hard to see the world from her point of view and blimey, it was an unjust and frustrating place.

She's now almost 2, and has regular paddies but they really are just beyond her control. Frustration and intense, whole-body disappointment when things don't go right (and it's not just getting her own way - same thing happens if she's tired and she can't get teddy's jumper on her head, for example). Luckily they're relatively short-lived and after a couple of minutes getting it out of her system she'll either allow herself to be cuddled or distracted.

The only way I can deal with it without yelling 'get a grip, I can't change the laws of physics' (which I do occasionally, cos obviously I'm human) or doing her physical harm, is to empathise energetically (oh babe, it IS very frustrating isn't it), stick to my guns (if I'm the cause of the melt-down) and leave her to calm down. I check on her every 30 seconds or so to make sure she's safe and tell her I'll be in the kitchen/wherever when she wants a cuddle.

Of course, I have only the one child to deal with and she rarely does it when we're out. She does flip out in shopping trolleys quite often, but I find a bit of running up and down the isles (I have no inhibitions, me), spinning round and 'oh look, grapes! let's eat some now) fends most of them off at the outset.

Oh, and BIG ditto giving warning about things that are about to happen, particularly having to leave a game, get out of the bath etc. We count down 5, 3, 1 minute til... Doesn't stop the protests entirely but made one hell of a difference when we first tried it.

Good luck!

Oh, and I have a theory about these early paddies (I'm sure I'll be eating my words in a year, but hey) - I reckon if I can be absolutely firm about never backing down in the face of a meltdown now (ie when they're out of DDs control), she's less likely to use tantrums later, when she could throw them deliberately, cos it won't be worth it, she'll know it won't change my mind about anything. So maybe the early tantrum throwers will turn into nicer 3 year olds? I desperately hold onto that optimistic thought when we're having a rubbish day!

PuppyMonkey · 30/05/2008 11:03

Thanks for all Mij, you sound like a star mum!

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Elmosgirl · 30/05/2008 11:04

Mine started around then...still going strong at 20 months

Mij · 30/05/2008 11:08

Awww, PuppyMonkey that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me for months. I promise I'm only as stary as you are and, as I said, sometimes I can yell at DD like the best of 'em. Far from perfect, I can assure you.

Habbibu · 30/05/2008 11:26

Brilliant post, mij. There's a lot to be said for forcing yourself into a child's mindset from time to time. Aitch called it the "what the fuck?-ness" of being a toddler, which I thought was pretty accurate.

Pannacotta · 30/05/2008 11:38

Love your suggestions mij, will try them with my very headstrong one year old.

Mij · 30/05/2008 11:47

Aitch is truly master of the well-coined phrase.

The thing I found amazing about the 'trying to see it from their point of view' thing was that I achieved a formally unthinkable Zen-like state of calm in the face of toddler unreasonableness (I'm not naturally chilled). And it's self-perpetuating. I stay calm, she calms down quicker, I feel good, she forgets what the fuss was about and we can all gird our loins for the next outbreak.

PuppyMonkey · 30/05/2008 11:48

What the fuckness... that's it exactly!

Thanks all, you've made me feel much better

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mrsshackleton · 30/05/2008 11:59

DD2 has been like that from birth (no kidding she came out screaming and has hardly stopped since). she's just turned one and is really getting in her stride ...
Oh what fun! I can only empathise and chant "it will get better", though when I'm not sure. Hoping for a brief lull between toddlerhood and teens around eight yrs perhaps? Good luck

black31cat · 30/05/2008 14:13

My ds has just started the tantrums in earnest at 16 months. A particular favourite is refusing to get into his pushchair or car seat. One trick i found was to put a dummy into one hand and some sort of edible snack in the other hand. He is then so busy concentrating on which one he wants to put in his mouth first that he forgets what he was having a tantrum about!

Mij · 30/05/2008 14:28

Lol the only way I can get DD into a buggy is by giving her food. Honestly, she does the most amazing sideways leg fling thingy and I just can't hold her, in spite being small for her age and me being quite, well, strapping. But then we rarely fight about it, can't see the point, just sling her or plan an extra two hours for walking .

DD much better about the car seat now she can climb into it herself. In fact, that's been a big change in tantrums actually - a lot of things we thought she was refusing to do wasn't because she didn't want to do them per se, it was just that she wanted to do them herself and either didn't have the skill or didn't have the language to articulate that - which must be SOOOOO frustrating.

evenhope · 31/05/2008 18:48

Oh goodness my 14 mo has started doing this as well, and like PuppyMonkey's LO it's since she learned to walk. It's so tiring isn't it?

She won't go in her car seat or her buggy. Every no is met with screaming and flinging herself backwards. Her latest trick is bouncing on the arm of the settee, when she's not hitting the cat with the TV remote or eating the batteries.

shreksmissus · 31/05/2008 23:34

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Mij · 01/06/2008 14:57

Oooh, yes the flinging herself backwards thing. That's a very familiar one, always worried she's going to knock herself out on the bannister or something (although maybe that would be so bad...[evil parent emoticon]