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Thread 15: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 14/08/2025 10:52

The Observer's original exposé: The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

The 14 Observer items currently available on their online 'The real Salt Path' page: The real Salt Path | The Observer

4 more from The Observer:
‘Hope is extinguished’: CBD patients respond to Salt Path...

The real Salt Path | The Observer (The Slow Newscast)

(Live/online event)

The Observer YouTube Channel: The Observer UK - YouTube

Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement: Raynor Winn

Thread One ^www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5368194-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?^

Threads 2-11: Links all in the OP of Thread 12

Thread 12: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5384574-thread-12-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

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Thread 14: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5388981-thread-14-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

New posters joining us in the genuine spirit of our civil discourse welcome. It would be helpful to get the background from at least some of the Observer items above before posting. There are currently a number of interesting items on The Observer website and linked to above.

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Remember, even Hollywood rabbits attract the odd flea. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for fourteen very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in our usual reasonable and respectful fashion is very welcome.

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Keep to the path. No saltiness. May the fudge be with you.

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal that the truth behind it is ve...

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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ShrinkWrappedInSeattle · 16/08/2025 21:10

Catwith69lives · 16/08/2025 20:51

I can't believe they aren't the same couple but I have to admit the photos don't look that similar. Crazy.

Edited

Her cheeks look similar - shape-wise - which is why I grudgingly accept they’re probably the same people.

Catwith69lives · 16/08/2025 21:10

I've been thinking about the plagiarism insinuation between The Salt Road and The Salt Path.

In this case I don't think SW does have a case to answer. Yes she may have been inspired by The Salt Road having attended one of their shows, but for me there is a world of difference between the imagery of The Salt Road ( with vehicles) and the The Salt Path (images of the SWCP). So in this particular case, I'm inclined to plead on behalf of Raymoth.

Thread 15: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
SwetSwetSwet · 16/08/2025 21:10

I think it's weird that the friends sign the justgiving page as "Julie and Dave from up North", like they are playing a role. The only recent photo of a relative I could find online was of TW's estranged brother in France, and Dave certainly wasn't him!

Catwith69lives · 16/08/2025 21:12

SwetSwetSwet · 16/08/2025 21:10

I think it's weird that the friends sign the justgiving page as "Julie and Dave from up North", like they are playing a role. The only recent photo of a relative I could find online was of TW's estranged brother in France, and Dave certainly wasn't him!

Guess it has become a running joke between them over time

DoubtfulCat · 16/08/2025 21:17

SwetSwetSwet · 16/08/2025 21:10

I think it's weird that the friends sign the justgiving page as "Julie and Dave from up North", like they are playing a role. The only recent photo of a relative I could find online was of TW's estranged brother in France, and Dave certainly wasn't him!

Are they estranged, do we know that?

SwetSwetSwet · 16/08/2025 21:35

DoubtfulCat · 16/08/2025 21:17

Are they estranged, do we know that?

I guess we don't know - sorry, a mistake was made 😉 But he doesn't get a mention in TSP credits, and his son was pretty damning about RayMoth.

OakPark · 16/08/2025 21:53

Catwith69lives · 16/08/2025 20:51

I can't believe they aren't the same couple but I have to admit the photos don't look that similar. Crazy.

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It looks like two different women. I could be wrong. Could Dave have a new Julie (new partner)? And RayMoth just let us think that was the old Dave and old Julie.

TheBrandyPath · 16/08/2025 22:00

Freshsocks · 16/08/2025 20:20

I don't think they look the same either, the five years older Julie looks younger, but maybe it's the walking.

Now this is an idea - I think we've got a best seller here.

SeaCampion · 16/08/2025 22:13

@LetsBeSensible Then returns home and tells TimMoth that they must face the truth…he isn’t dying of CBD.

I do hope that's the case in real life.

On Winter Hill subtitled The Saline Solution 😀

I'm not sure I'd read book four though. I prefer these threads and I'm sure there'd be a new collection. @DisappointedReader have you saved some annual leave in preparation?

candycane222 · 16/08/2025 22:45

Tryingtoeatcake · 16/08/2025 13:06

The Government facing high levels of economic inactivity and increasing benefit bills push the narrative that unwell people can get better if they tried hard enough; ie better diet, increased exercise. Sally’s redemptive memoir struck a chord by suggesting terminally ill people can reverse the symptoms by exercise. This reverses the expectation that the collective support of society should help ill people.
My wife suffered a horrible 5 year battle with breast cancer and all the treatment failed, what’s unforgivable about TSP is that if only we walked a coastal path she would still be here. I’m not doubting that her husband Tim is unwell but to deliberately confuse his diagnosis for financial gain is so cruel.

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So sorry to hear this 💐

SongQuizQueen · 16/08/2025 23:01

SwetSwetSwet · 16/08/2025 21:10

I think it's weird that the friends sign the justgiving page as "Julie and Dave from up North", like they are playing a role. The only recent photo of a relative I could find online was of TW's estranged brother in France, and Dave certainly wasn't him!

I thought this too, so much so that I went to look at the Justgiving page - and they haven't actually signed it "Julie" and Dave. It's a very similar name (not posting it here because I don't want to incur a drive-by scolding on my first contribution!). I've been searching for the combination of names and locations around Lancashire, but no luck so far.

SereneLilac · 16/08/2025 23:04

Catwith69lives · 16/08/2025 20:25

Maybe there is a reason for them wearing sunglasses. I know it sounds crazy, but nothing is beyond the realms of possibility in regard to TSP. Maybe it's no coincidence that GA from the X Files was recruited to play SW! Maybe Raymoth had some sort of prize draw to play the part of Dave and Julie!

Edited

And JI played the evil mad scientist in The OA 👀

candycane222 · 16/08/2025 23:13

Catwith69lives · 16/08/2025 19:39

Moth's ability to constantly recover from adversity reminds me of a Marvel comic all action hero.

"Incredible". Yeah there's a reason for that. 😂

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/08/2025 23:16

Catwith69lives · 16/08/2025 19:33

Yet Moth made a 'miraculous Lazarus like recovery' (as per normal) to travel up from the West Country to attend the film launch and interview with GA and JI. Some things never change!

Maybe he walked there? Would account for the recovery...

SwetSwetSwet · 16/08/2025 23:25

SongQuizQueen · 16/08/2025 23:01

I thought this too, so much so that I went to look at the Justgiving page - and they haven't actually signed it "Julie" and Dave. It's a very similar name (not posting it here because I don't want to incur a drive-by scolding on my first contribution!). I've been searching for the combination of names and locations around Lancashire, but no luck so far.

I now realise there are two Justgiving pages (so great the charity has benefitted from the books). I think as it's a public page, giving the names is fine, as they are still not identifiable.

2023 London Marathon
Title: "Moth & Ray walking the London Marathon for CBD research"
Donor: "June & Dave from the North."

2024 London Marathon
Title: "Moth and Ray walking for CBD research"
Donor: "Julie and Dave from up North"

Are there two couples, or did the person who made the donation forget their own name?

Also interestingly (or not 😂), the 2023 page uses an ampersand in the heading and in the donor's post. But probably just a coincidence.

candycane222 · 16/08/2025 23:28

Bit of a tell here about who 'Gangani' were in one of @Tealeaf3 's screenshots here. Are the lovely smallholders with the lovely house aand barn really "your friends", Gangani? If so , how come it is "we" Gangani, who are the "font (sic) of information" about rural life....

Thread 15: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
ShrinkWrappedInSeattle · 16/08/2025 23:29

SongQuizQueen · 16/08/2025 23:01

I thought this too, so much so that I went to look at the Justgiving page - and they haven't actually signed it "Julie" and Dave. It's a very similar name (not posting it here because I don't want to incur a drive-by scolding on my first contribution!). I've been searching for the combination of names and locations around Lancashire, but no luck so far.

Very interesting and well spotted! In another Just Giving page it’s definitely Julie and Dave - maybe Julie is a fake (arguably
more common) name and the other name (which I won’t mention either) is the real one.

Tealeaf3 · 16/08/2025 23:36

candycane222 · 16/08/2025 23:28

Bit of a tell here about who 'Gangani' were in one of @Tealeaf3 's screenshots here. Are the lovely smallholders with the lovely house aand barn really "your friends", Gangani? If so , how come it is "we" Gangani, who are the "font (sic) of information" about rural life....

https://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=25803.0

Thought I’d see if this worked before posting 18 more screenshots 😀

Hello from Wales - The Accidental Smallholder

Hello from Wales

https://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=25803.0

SunlitUpland · 16/08/2025 23:44

SwetSwetSwet · 16/08/2025 23:25

I now realise there are two Justgiving pages (so great the charity has benefitted from the books). I think as it's a public page, giving the names is fine, as they are still not identifiable.

2023 London Marathon
Title: "Moth & Ray walking the London Marathon for CBD research"
Donor: "June & Dave from the North."

2024 London Marathon
Title: "Moth and Ray walking for CBD research"
Donor: "Julie and Dave from up North"

Are there two couples, or did the person who made the donation forget their own name?

Also interestingly (or not 😂), the 2023 page uses an ampersand in the heading and in the donor's post. But probably just a coincidence.

Perhaps Big Dave is a serial monogamist, who shacks up with a series of small, tough women called Julie, June, Judith, Juanita etc.

SereneLilac · 16/08/2025 23:54

SunlitUpland · 16/08/2025 23:44

Perhaps Big Dave is a serial monogamist, who shacks up with a series of small, tough women called Julie, June, Judith, Juanita etc.

He's Just Giving:)

As opposed to Raymoth who're Just Grifting

Peladon · 16/08/2025 23:57

SereneLilac · 16/08/2025 23:54

He's Just Giving:)

As opposed to Raymoth who're Just Grifting

I think there may be some joke to be made involving Just Giving and Old Lizard Head, but I'm too polite to try to make it.

Tealeaf3 · 17/08/2025 00:02

candycane222 · 16/08/2025 23:28

Bit of a tell here about who 'Gangani' were in one of @Tealeaf3 's screenshots here. Are the lovely smallholders with the lovely house aand barn really "your friends", Gangani? If so , how come it is "we" Gangani, who are the "font (sic) of information" about rural life....

These accidental smallholders could smell a rat long, long ago.

SereneLilac · 17/08/2025 00:11

@Peladon

I think there may be some joke to be made involving Just Giving and Old Lizard Head, but I'm too polite to try to make it.

😂😂😂

fruit66 · 17/08/2025 00:13

@Catwith69lives I don’t think there has been a suggestion that RW ripped off the TSP story from Salt Road. They are nothing alike. What is more curious is the similar format of the live show Saltlines - writer/stories plus musicians and song to Salt Road. Also the change of name from the original Lightly Salted etc. Light fingered in the creativity department perhaps but not plagiarism in my opinion. The similarities to 500MW might be a different kettle of fish.

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