Smoking in a queue / at a bus stop

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I appreciate there aren't many places where you can have a cigarette indoors these days, but when people are queueing and can't get away - not without losing their place, anyway - it's really inconsiderate of people to smoke.

(Ideally I'd like phone conversations on loud speaker to be banned as well, but I'm probably expecting too much.)

AIBU to think this is highly antisocial?

Spoken like a true smoker! I can assure you that if you’re inside a bus stop smoking beside me, it will become your problem.

Who do you think your threatening?

But posters like @JMSAare great people right 🤣

I was against the smoking ban. I don't smoke but was brought up in a smoking household and used to spend a lot of time in pubs. I didn't really notice smoke as I was quite often in a smoke haze as it was everywhere. Since the ban I hate walking past smokers and can smell it across rooms if someone has come in after smoking. I would ban it in public, anywhere. You can do it at home only.

They’re the selfish nobs doing it?

I said illegal drug use is immoral

I didn't mention those other things, seems to be like you're grasping at straws here and attempting to make up your own narrative to justify your incorrect position that propping up the illegal drug trade, county lives and slave trade/abuse by purchasing drugs is acceptable and completely moral.

Clue:its not.

I hate it, and I hate it when I walk past someone who is smoking and I end up with secondhand smoke down my throat and lungs.

I hate it and was amazed when we went to Flamingoland a few years ago and it seemed to be the norm. People smoking everywhere including queues for children's rides.

I think much as we tend not to smell our own deodorant or perfume, smokers have no idea how strong and vile the smell is. So they have heard that it smells but don't realise you can smell their lit cigarette from the other side of the street if the wind is blowing the wrong direction, or smell smoke on their clothes and hair when you walk past them in the supermarket.

Standing in the post office queue next to someone whose clothes reek of smoke makes me walk out. People who smoke in cars and have stinking clothes are just the worst.

On holiday in the USA recently we really noticed the few people who smoked when we were animal watching. Tiny minority but you do notice them! Yuk!

You are conflating two separate issues. I am not saying that propping up a horrific, abusive trade is moral or acceptable so you have badly misrepresented my position there. I am saying that smoking weed in itself is not immoral. It could well be that someone has grown their own cannabis and smokes it at home - noone else is involved and noone else is hurt. No trade is involved. Noone could say that's immoral. I mentioned cheap clothes previously and the fact that many industries have connections to shady practices. There may well be some immorality involved in the way their goods are produced but that doesn't mean that the people buying the clothes are immoral, even if you could say that they are 'complicit' in propping up those industries.

That's interesting because as a child I hated the smell and both my parents smoked, as did my mother's sister (she and her children lived with us for a while).

I hated being in the car with ash from the overflowing ashtray blowing on to me.

As a severe asthmatic someone smoking /vaping in front of me in a queue would put me in hospital. It’s impossible to eat outside cos if someone lights up /vapes on a nearby table we have to move or leave. People puffing away at traffic lights next to you so it’s impossible to sit with my window down. Attempting to enter or leave a pub/restaurant/supermarket etc is a nightmare with people clustered around entrances. Outside hospitals too - more than one occasion I’ve been discharged from hosp only to be back in resus having had a cloud of smoke in the face from someone outside the hosp doors. I don’t expect my health to be everyone else’s problem & appreciate no one smokes /vapes with malicious intent to harm, but a little thought & consideration would be helpful.

@WinterNightStars considerate would be helpful as would implementing the law. Smokers should not be grouped around any doorways. A couple of signs and then the council could issue fixed penalty notices.

There are often signs but people just ignore them because they know nothing will happen. To be fair, the few times I've pointed out to a smoker that they're in a No Smoking area, they've apologised and moved but I'm sure that's not always the case.

I agree OP.

I agree with you. I don't smoke and have never smoked. When I started work it wasn't unusual for people to smoke in the office and all indoor spaces. Obviously it is a lot nicer that that is no longer the case. However, I do think that people get unreasonably wound up about seeing people smoking at all, almost to the point of being vindictive.

At a previous place where I worked there was only a small number of smokers and it was generally accepted that when they wanted a cigarette they went out of the back door and stood outside the building in a place that was undercover. Not harming anybody, it wasn't like you had to walk through a fug of smoke to get to your car or anything. Then, I think it must have been a change in legislation that meant people could only smoke in designated spaces, but a rule was introduced that the designated area was at the other end of the car park, behind a wall. No shelter there at all if it rained. I honestly couldn't see the point of that at all. They weren't harming anybody but themselves it just seemed spiteful.

It doesn't seem like a big deal to me to smell their smoke for a short time. One is hardly likely to get cancer from standing next to a smoker for five minutes. I was brought up in a household where there was a smoker, we all survived. (Well not the smoker himself, sadly, but the rest of us were OK)

Maybe they should ban cars aswell then 🤔

Totally agree was standing in a bis queue with all kids with fumes of smoke flowing back at us, horrible and as an ex smoker I would never have done it either

Another ex smoker here, and no I'd never have smoked in a queue, though it does beg the question of what's "too close" when smoking outside ... sitting on a park bench? Standing outside a premises? Just walking along in a public space?

It's anathema to some I know, but we'll never all get everything we want and a bit of give and take will always be needed even if the concept's not popular

I do think that people get unreasonably wound up about seeing people smoking at all, almost to the point of being vindictive

Edited to add I sometimes wonder if this is because it's the last "judgement" allowed, @5foot5?
If you comment on someone's terribly behaved child you'll inevitably be told "they have ADHD", complaining that the 20 stone person damaged your chair will bring howls of "think of their mental health" and so on and so on, but it seems smokers are the last in line for acceptable censure

Growing your own weed ......illegal thereby immoral

Subjecting people to the smell by smoking/growing it.........antisocial and thereby immoral

Anyway....your boring me now. Go find a hobby.

As an occasional smoker (a pack of 20 lasts me a month) I am always mindful of not smoking around other people who are not smoking. If I was at a bus stop,I would move right away from other people before lighting up. Although having said this,I still occasionally get people coming and standing right next to me,who then start coughing dramatically!

I think the worst place to smoke is outside hospitals. I’ve seen people smoking at entrances, where others are going in with acute asthma attacks or coming out with newborn babies. So fucking inconsiderate! Smoking near schools and playgrounds is also bad. And I’m an occasional smoker.

Though having said that I’m old enough to remember there being smoking rooms in every hospital ward. Our local a&e was a fug of cigarette smoke! What were we thinking?!?

Yanbu at a bus stop.

An outside sitting area is different, cafés and bars can have a segregated area.

I'd be happy with an outright ban when shops stop selling them, a government ban, they can't get the smoker addicted, sell their fix to them, then ban them.

Mass cold turkey.

Legal drug dealers.
Smoking preys on the poor, nicotine is a highly addictive product, heroin addicts have beaten a heroin addiction but cannot break away from nicotine.

It's easy to punish the addict, while the dealer profits.

But smoking rooms made more sense then people aren't walking through clouds of smoke in door ways. But people who are anti smokers didn't want that. You need to remember some people at hospital are having the worst day of their lives would you really begrudge a grieving mother who just watched her child die a cigarette

And there were staff smoking rooms too.

I was in hospital in my teens and the nurses couldn't understand why I didn't use the day room. The day room was also the smoking room.