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To wonder why shoplifters are so thick and selfish?

182 replies

girlfriend44 · 12/08/2025 18:50

Pharmacies have today revealed they are suffering from increased shoplifting too.
Where us this all going to end

If people keep stealing there won't be any ships left will there?
Have they ever tried running a business?
What would they do if people kept stealing?
How low as well stealing from an independent pharmacy. It's hard enough for them as it is.

They are there for people in the community as well to help them?
Makes no sense.
People are thick and selfish.
Are they trying to ose everyone down?

🙄😪

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PollyBell · 12/08/2025 21:51

Blaming everyone but themselves but children need to taught thinking by their parents and how many parents have no intelligence themselves so are raising the next generation and so on

mumda · 12/08/2025 21:51

Ymiryboo · 12/08/2025 21:50

And again 40% of theft is done by staff. If they were so concerned stealing would close the shop and therefore put themselves out of a job they probably wouldn’t do it

Got a source for that?

Bambamhoohoo · 12/08/2025 21:51

Whammyyammy · 12/08/2025 21:47

I wonder why there is such an increase in crime?

it hasn’t really.

“Crime overall appears to have decreased significantly since the mid-1990s. For instance, total offenses fell from 19.8 million in 1995 to about 4.7 million in 2024 The Guardian.
Other sources, like The Times, report violent assaults, burglaries, and knife assaults are at their lowest levels in decadesThe Times.
Meanwhile, perception often diverges sharply from reality. Many people believe crime has risen, fueled in part by sensationalist media coverage despite official statistics showing the opposite”

Crime is falling, but heists that make headlines imply otherwise

A burglary in London has triggered a press frenzy but the real story is that today such incidents are rare

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/04/is-falling-but-heists-that-make-headlines-imply-otherwise?utm_source=chatgpt.com

mumda · 12/08/2025 21:52

Bambamhoohoo · 12/08/2025 21:51

it hasn’t really.

“Crime overall appears to have decreased significantly since the mid-1990s. For instance, total offenses fell from 19.8 million in 1995 to about 4.7 million in 2024 The Guardian.
Other sources, like The Times, report violent assaults, burglaries, and knife assaults are at their lowest levels in decadesThe Times.
Meanwhile, perception often diverges sharply from reality. Many people believe crime has risen, fueled in part by sensationalist media coverage despite official statistics showing the opposite”

Crime fallen or reporting crime now so difficult people don't bother.

Bambamhoohoo · 12/08/2025 21:56

Both are tracked - people who consider themselves victims of crime those that agree reported. There are approx 2m more people who believe they have been victims of crime than reported crimes, and this measure has also fallen proportionally

EveningSpread · 12/08/2025 22:09

Carnation25 · 12/08/2025 19:00

Always wondered why they are called shoplifters and not thieves.

Because “thieves” might equally apply to the companies selling goods to a captive market at daylight robbery prices Grin

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/08/2025 22:10

Erm, because they’re thick and selfish ….

Pickledpoppetpickle · 12/08/2025 22:39

x2boys · 12/08/2025 19:13

Pharmacists can also prescribe so if you have a sick baby that needs paracetamol prescriptions are free for children..

my child is a type 1 diabetic. Pharmacists won’t touch him with a barge pole. Always tell us to speak to our GP.

1offnamechange · 12/08/2025 23:31

Athreedoorwardrobe · 12/08/2025 21:24

This is spot on. And there's also the fear of being seen as not coping. That social services might get on your back. A lot of people in these types of situations can be very distrustful of authority or any type of organisation. Due to have been continually treated like nothing etc

As I said previously I had to steal food in my late teens. I had absolutely no idea what a food bank even was and it just would not have occurred to me that anyone might help me. Having the confidence to ask and the expectation that people are on your side is a privilege people don't even understand they are raised with.

if someone hasn't heard of a foodbank in 2025 they live in a level of obliviousness so extreme they shouldn't be procreating.

apart from anything else in every supermarket I've ever been in you would have walked past the dropping off point for the local foodbank after nicking your stuff.

jetlag92 · 12/08/2025 23:53

ilovesooty · 12/08/2025 19:06

How much time have you spent working with acquisitive crime? I'm not endorsing or excusing it, but I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

Well it's pretty obvious on a base level - if more people steal things from a shop - that shop has to put up prices for everyone.

On a higher level - that criminal has got away with committing a crime and there is a lot of evidence (which I can google if someone can't be bothered to) that someone who commits smaller crimes and gets away with them, goes on to commit bigger ones.

jetlag92 · 12/08/2025 23:59

EveningSpread · 12/08/2025 22:09

Because “thieves” might equally apply to the companies selling goods to a captive market at daylight robbery prices Grin

Possibly, but as you're unlikely to be a net contributor to society, maybe that's the only way get you to contribute a bit. (through VAT)

sweeneytoddsrazor · 13/08/2025 00:30

Anyone who works in retail knows that by far the largest amount of shoplifting is done by organised Eastern European gangs who do not come in and steal a loaf and a tin of beans to feed the kids. They come in well prepared, often with their own detaggers , and will take hundreds of pounds worth in one go then travel to the next shop and do the same.

SpringSpruce · 13/08/2025 01:20

ZoeCM · 12/08/2025 19:07

I don't think shoplifters steal out of desperation. If a mother can't afford formula, for example, I doubt any GP would send her away if she begged for it. Shoplifters steal out of entitlement.

It's more complex than that. She'd need to contact her health visitor or social worker not a gp, and whilst yes they would signpost her to support/a food bank there's a lot of potential shame and fear of being judged as not able to meet the babies needs which could push someone to steal it instead of admitting they don't have enough money to feed their baby.

TheStinkyPrincess · 13/08/2025 01:32

LIGHTSNACKER · 12/08/2025 19:33

I don't buy clothes with a label on anymore from vinted in case it is stolen.

I only buy george asda or next on ebay. Most designer labels are knock off such as LV bags etc.

I would rather buy a real leather bag from m and s when they have a sale.

x2boys · 13/08/2025 04:50

SpringSpruce · 13/08/2025 01:20

It's more complex than that. She'd need to contact her health visitor or social worker not a gp, and whilst yes they would signpost her to support/a food bank there's a lot of potential shame and fear of being judged as not able to meet the babies needs which could push someone to steal it instead of admitting they don't have enough money to feed their baby.

Thees a lot more potential Shame in being caught shoplifting.....

x2boys · 13/08/2025 04:55

Pickledpoppetpickle · 12/08/2025 22:39

my child is a type 1 diabetic. Pharmacists won’t touch him with a barge pole. Always tell us to speak to our GP.

Your child is entitled to free prescriptions and always will be as a diabetic then
I'm also the parent of a Diabetic
The lengths people are going to justify why shop lifting is ridiculous
The vast majority of shoplifting isn't dine by desperate mothers to feed their kids .

Pickledpoppetpickle · 13/08/2025 06:29

x2boys · 13/08/2025 04:55

Your child is entitled to free prescriptions and always will be as a diabetic then
I'm also the parent of a Diabetic
The lengths people are going to justify why shop lifting is ridiculous
The vast majority of shoplifting isn't dine by desperate mothers to feed their kids .

I'm fully aware of the entitlement. I was simply saying not e eryone can get a pharmacist to prescribe for them.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/08/2025 08:56

Whammyyammy · 12/08/2025 21:47

I wonder why there is such an increase in crime?

Because the police do nothing. They’re too often more interested in investigating someone who’s posted something that could possibly offend someone on SM.

user1471433754 · 13/08/2025 09:45

Mmmm, I was in Marks & Spencer a few days ago for a couple of things when I overhead two staff members commenting that a couple had gone out with a trolley full of food. That couple walked up to their very large car, she got in the passenger seat, he filled up the boot and away they went! 🤷

susiedaisy1912 · 13/08/2025 09:59

lnks · 12/08/2025 19:00

Some are thick and selfish,
others are desperate and at breaking point.

This.

RedLightGreenLiiight · 13/08/2025 10:17

girlfriend44 · 12/08/2025 21:13

Would Sandra like it it she was running a business and people did that to her?
Things are not free, the shop have had to pay for it. This is what I mean about being thick.

When all the pharmacy's close because they can't make a living where will everyone go there?

Exactly. You say you don't care about your neighbours helping themselves to stuff, but if they stole from you I'd expect you'd feel differently.

I own a shop and shoplifters boil my piss, they're not stealing essential items because they're starving or need medication. It's pure entitlement. The last one I caught was an almost 7ft tall middle aged man, he had no qualms about wrestling with a slight woman (me) as I tried to get my property back off him. I told him he was a pathetic waste of space for fighting a woman and he's stealing directly from my pocket as it's my shop. I got my stuff back and he slunk off, he was clearly counting on me not having the bottle to confront him.

Independent shops can't really afford to put up their prices to cover theft, otherwise noone would buy from them, as they can just buy cheaper online.

Vitriolinsanity · 13/08/2025 12:38

This fictional penniless young mother with multi kids, no family, no help from anyone now has a diabetic child. Can her luck get any worse?

But the shop stealing epidemic is not down to this fictional person. It’s entirely down to the fact certain elements of our society know full well how to game what little system is left. Watching a group of teens stroll out of Tesco without a care in the world, you do wonder how things went so wrong.