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Stressed about secondary school expenses, ExH being unreasonable?

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CelluliteRoller · 10/08/2025 13:06

DS moving up to secondary school in Sept.

Had a very 'messy divorce' from exH who was financially and emotionally abusive, pos-separation he painted me as an unfit parent and wanted DC full-time (multiple reports to social services and police) however they ended up living with me and spending time with him. Prior to split he was not involved in DC life at all, he left it all to me whilst he spent most of the time in the pub.

ExH paid no maintenence at all for first 9 months after we split, I had to go through CMS. He pays way less than the calculators on MSE etc. suggested he would; I think he must have maxed out pension contributions and bought bikes etc the salary sacrifice schemes. He also works as a delivery driver and does cash in hand work; these are not included in his maintenence contributions.

As DS is going up to secondary school he has to have a really expensive uniform; it costs around £200. There was also a 'summer school' he attended that was £150. I asked for financial help for the summer school but they said all they could offer was allowing me to pay in childcare vouchers - which stopped in around 2019 I believe!! I had vouchers in my old job but could not get them in my new one. The summer school flyer said that they would offer financial assistance if required but they point-blank refused to offer anything but allowing me to pay with childcare vouchers and threatened to not let DS attend as it was not an essential school trip. Had to borrow money off a relative so he could attend as he's nervous about starting and the summer school was a good way to make new friends etc.

DS will be eligible for FSM next year as I claim UC (as well as working full-time). If you get FSM you can get an £80 voucher to go towards your school uniform however at present he is not eligible as earn over the FSM threshold despite claiming UC.

I asked exH if he would consider giving me some money towards the school uniform as it's expensive and I'd already had to pay for summer school (in desperation as he scares me and uses things like this against me.. I try to keep communication to a minimum).

I got a furious reply from exH beginning with "I pay you maintenence" and ending with "it is highly inappropriate for you to even be ASKING me this". I know he will be enjoying the fact that I am struggling as he is a sadistic bully, even though it's his kids who lose out. I pay for all extracurricular activities and provide the musical instruments, football boots, etc. even though he takes them sometimes. I pay for all the school uniform so far in primary including school bags, lunch boxes etc. Money is generally extremely tight as amongst other things exH is refusing to sell the house (it is going to court) and the mortgage has doubled in the time we split up.

You have to be school dinners as the secondary doesn't allow packed lunches - these are £3.50 a day. Ex refusing to pay for this although DC go to his on Sunday which is a "school night".

Have now found out we are expected to provide a laptop / desktop on top of everything else. I have no idea how I can fund this.

Are there any charities I could apply to for a grant?

And is exH BU for not helping out a bit extra this month due to all the extraordinary costs? Or maybe the school is BU? Or both?!

I am so stressed at the moment; I don't want to be "that parent" but the school are already treating me like a nuisance for asking for financial assistance that isn't childcare vouchers. One of the secretaries i spoke to told me I had been wasting "valuable admin time" by being passed around various departments when I was trying to figure out if I could get a concession for the summer school.

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CelluliteRoller · 14/08/2025 10:54

He should indeed and honestly i'm not sure how he lives with himself. DC do not enjoy spending time with him, he is very thoughtless and his personality changes with every new girlfriend he acquires (strict, laid-back, fitness-fanatic... He doesn't really have a 'set' personality, he is a complete chameleon) although having been forced to spend time with him by the family courts since the ages of about 5 and 2, they are kind of resigned to it at this stage 😔

A lot of the school parents we were friends with have dropped both of us, which is a shame as it's made it harder to arrange play-dates etc. - he is a bit of an oddball and I think that people would just rather not get involved with either of us 😕

Older friends have mostly dropped him as they know what he is capable of in terms of using police and social services to harass me and my family as well as making DCs unhappy and his unceasing tightfistedness.. and are shocked and appalled. He constantly makes new friends though, because he can be very charming when he wants to be. It is quite terrifying how he can come across as perfectly reasonable and I can only imagine what he is telling his new partners about his crazy ex-wife... 👹

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CelluliteRoller · 14/08/2025 11:01

PinkFrogss · 11/08/2025 10:03

Sorry OP, are you entitled to FSM or not?

It’s crazy that the school force a child to have a £3.50 schools lunch everyday. I would ask them again about packed lunches or cheaper options. If that really is the case then point out to ex that his school lunches alone cost over £50.

Assuming this is a state school there will definitely be parents who can’t afford the school lunches everyday let alone a laptop as well.

In practical terms, can you cut back on the extra curriculars to save money? And explain to at least the oldest one going to secondary that he needs to make sure he keeps his clothes etc when he goes to exes? He’s old enough to dress himself so not sure how his clothes are going missing or why he’s wearing too small clothes home.

I'm not entitled to FSM this year but I will be next year when the policy extends to everyone on Universal Credit not just those with a household income of under £9.5k.

I believe child maintenence is not included in this though, so if you got £3,000 a month in child maintenence or something you could still be eligible this year.

It is very difficult for the older one as he is intimidated by his dad. So if clothes go missing he doesn't like to point it out to him.

I think I will have to cut back on the extra-curriculars as cannot afford them anymore. This sucks as DC enjoy their hobbies and are good at them. But I guess it's a question of "cutting my cloth" etc. It's just frustrating as if exH could contribute a bit more - and I know for certain that he can - then they could continue their hobbies. But he is so tight-fisted he pays the bare minimum even if it is to the detriment of the DC 😔
He genuinely seems to enjoy the fact that I am on the breadline, he is really horrible.

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BrendaSmall · 14/08/2025 11:11

If your children are getting ready to go to secondary school they must be 11, coming up to 12 years of age, why are they not being responsible for looking after their own items that they take with them?

Needlenardlenoo · 14/08/2025 11:16

OP, tell the extra curricular providers of your difficulties. They may have bursaries etc. I know my daughter's music theatre troupe would find funds for a child in these circumstances.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 14/08/2025 11:22

He sounds an absolute dickhead! But you know that. I’d question if he’s a suitable person to be having contact with the kids tbh.

The school also sound really unhelpful and as though they are going to cause endless difficulties going forward. Is it too late to speak to the LA to see if your child could get a place at a different school which doesn’t have such restrictive requirements?

They should be being so rude to you either!

Academies are notoriously awful imo

beAsensible1 · 14/08/2025 11:43

Get a laptop 2nd hand from backmarket or amazon and you can use a pay later scheme via Barclays or PayPal you can pay monthly.

even apple do refurbished comps and 0% pay back for 12 months
but really they cannot demand parents pay for a laptop, that is atrocious. And obviously bias and disadvantaging children who don’t have/ can’t afford Them.

Elektra1 · 14/08/2025 11:52

If he pays CMS maintenance he’s under no legal obligation to pay more so if his attitude is as you describe, I wouldn’t waste any more time trying to persuade him.

femfemlicious · 14/08/2025 11:58

CelluliteRoller · 11/08/2025 09:52

He's paying £200 per month for 2 children. It's very frustrating as he does stupid things like losing their belongings when they are with him (including expensive football equipment, or a Smiggle pencil case, basically anything) then point-blank refuses to replace them. Always blames DC for losing stuff or uses a passive voice "the tablet went missing". Never takes responsibility

When it's the holidays they go to him in nice normal clothes and come home in clothes that are several sizes too small and / or very worn and have to be binned.

If he was paying £1000 a month maintenence i absolutely would not have asked him for a contribution! That would be amazing.

But he doesn't pay a lot in contrast to how much the DC cost per month and has kept my monthy expenditure as high as possible by refusing to sell the family home, so I am paying way more than is affordable. He's also refusing to pay for anything at all and always has done. He lost 3 lots of football boots and shin-pads then refused to replace them so I did say he needed to pay for a set himself but he refused then got the football coach to come round to my house and ask me to hand over a fourth lot of kit. It was horrible; he uses people against me constantly to make me look unreasonable.

My goodness, sorry you are going through this. Sounds just like my ex husband. Very wicked and heartless.

femfemlicious · 14/08/2025 11:58

CelluliteRoller · 11/08/2025 09:52

He's paying £200 per month for 2 children. It's very frustrating as he does stupid things like losing their belongings when they are with him (including expensive football equipment, or a Smiggle pencil case, basically anything) then point-blank refuses to replace them. Always blames DC for losing stuff or uses a passive voice "the tablet went missing". Never takes responsibility

When it's the holidays they go to him in nice normal clothes and come home in clothes that are several sizes too small and / or very worn and have to be binned.

If he was paying £1000 a month maintenence i absolutely would not have asked him for a contribution! That would be amazing.

But he doesn't pay a lot in contrast to how much the DC cost per month and has kept my monthy expenditure as high as possible by refusing to sell the family home, so I am paying way more than is affordable. He's also refusing to pay for anything at all and always has done. He lost 3 lots of football boots and shin-pads then refused to replace them so I did say he needed to pay for a set himself but he refused then got the football coach to come round to my house and ask me to hand over a fourth lot of kit. It was horrible; he uses people against me constantly to make me look unreasonable.

My goodness, sorry you are going through this. Sounds just like my ex husband. Very wicked and heartless.

CelluliteRoller · 22/08/2025 20:11

femfemlicious · 14/08/2025 11:58

My goodness, sorry you are going through this. Sounds just like my ex husband. Very wicked and heartless.

It's just so tedious and also it's the relentlessness of it that really makes it difficult. He seems to have limitless energy for making things difficult. It's like he enjoys it. And the worst of it is, nobody cares or believes me 😓
It's like a drip, drip, drip, Chinese water torture situation. On paper each incident isn't that bad but when it's year after year it gets exhausting 😞😞😞

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