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Racist vigilantes on local FB page

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FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 15:42

I live in a small town with a military history. As such, we have had quite a few Afghan refugees settled here.

A few days ago, a woman posted to say that an Afghan refugee had been in the park and walking around watching her toddler. She turned away to feed her other child, and when she turned back, he was holding her toddler and walking off. She asked her sister who was with her to go and get the toddler back. Then, apparently, he said no to the sister several times and said he was taking the toddler home with him. Eventually, the toddler was returned.

Cue extensive outrage all over the Facebook page. Comments calling for riots and violence, comments locating the man involved, comments getting a few men together for a game of "human football"... Obviously people asked why she hadn't called the police and she said she had but they weren't interested.

Anyway, then there are posts of the man in different locations and people threatening to go after him.

Then, it turns out, the woman has partly lied and partly told half-truths about the whole things. Firstly, not a local Afghan refugee at all. Not local, on holiday. Not Afghan, police confirmed he's not Afghan but didn't say what he is. Not a refugee, here on holiday (we live in a touristy place). Police also confirmed it wasn't reported to them until the evening - and also that the report was made by a man. So, she didn't report to the police - just to Facebook.

It also turns out, the man was in the park with his own children (she made it sound like he was there alone) and that the toddler approached him, while the mum wasn't paying any attention, and asked to be picked up. And, of course, very strange that if a man were walking off with your toddler, you'd just ask him nicely to put them down...

Frankly, I feel really uncomfortable by this. This woman has blatantly lied and misled people to try and rile up a riot. I'm also scared by how many people were commenting incredibly racist things and calling for violence against (what turned out to be) an entirely innocent man. I'm really shocked, and I like where I live less now.

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FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:51

2dogsandabudgie · 08/08/2025 21:48

In that case you shouldn't have mentioned the councillor's name. You made it easy to google and link his name to this incident. Maybe you should ask for this thread to be deleted if you don't want the town to be known.

I only mentioned it after another poster said where it was and used his name. I think their post might have subsequently been removed because it was pretty rude/unpleasant/untrue.

It's out there now, it's not the end of the world. It was a risk and is why I NC'd.

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FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:52

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Except I haven't exaggerated or lied. At all. About anything.

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Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:52

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Muffsies · 08/08/2025 21:52

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Every time someone challenges your nonsense you change the subject.

Yes, everyone is aware of the rise in antisemitism, and the general rise in racism and general xenophobia and intolerance on sm and in the public, your point being?

whatsoccuring55 · 08/08/2025 21:52

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:51

I only mentioned it after another poster said where it was and used his name. I think their post might have subsequently been removed because it was pretty rude/unpleasant/untrue.

It's out there now, it's not the end of the world. It was a risk and is why I NC'd.

I did not use his name at any point you did . I also did not say anything rude or unpleasant and everything I said was true

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:53

whatsoccuring55 · 08/08/2025 21:52

I did not use his name at any point you did . I also did not say anything rude or unpleasant and everything I said was true

Obviously whoever reported you (it wasn't me) and the mods disagree. But ok.

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FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:53

Muffsies · 08/08/2025 21:52

Every time someone challenges your nonsense you change the subject.

Yes, everyone is aware of the rise in antisemitism, and the general rise in racism and general xenophobia and intolerance on sm and in the public, your point being?

Exactly. Whataboutery at it's finest.

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:57

Muffsies · 08/08/2025 21:52

Every time someone challenges your nonsense you change the subject.

Yes, everyone is aware of the rise in antisemitism, and the general rise in racism and general xenophobia and intolerance on sm and in the public, your point being?

The point being, if the OP and all the others are going to be so passionate about racism, maybe try exerting that same energy to all forms of racism. I don't see the same up in arms posts when a Jewish poster, posts about being discriminated against.

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:58

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:53

Exactly. Whataboutery at it's finest.

Whataboutery is a classic lazy deflection method.

Notonthestairs · 08/08/2025 21:59

Yes it is.
The police statement says no crimes were identified.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 22:00

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:58

Whataboutery is a classic lazy deflection method.

It's what you're doing though
Somebody says something and you immediately jump to "what about this?"
Kind of never mind that, look over there!
Biscuit

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 22:02

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:57

The point being, if the OP and all the others are going to be so passionate about racism, maybe try exerting that same energy to all forms of racism. I don't see the same up in arms posts when a Jewish poster, posts about being discriminated against.

You have absolutely no idea what I have or haven't previously posted - do you?

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Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 22:02

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 22:00

It's what you're doing though
Somebody says something and you immediately jump to "what about this?"
Kind of never mind that, look over there!
Biscuit

No, you've dug your heels in to many of my posts. I have to ask why is that. You've now used the claim of whataboutery. Let's change the opening line of this thread from Afghanistan to Jewish. Would there have been so many usual posters all over this thread, err, I don't think so.

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 22:03

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 22:02

No, you've dug your heels in to many of my posts. I have to ask why is that. You've now used the claim of whataboutery. Let's change the opening line of this thread from Afghanistan to Jewish. Would there have been so many usual posters all over this thread, err, I don't think so.

If we changed Afghan to Jewish then would you say it's not a big deal and I shouldn't be outraged? I'd be just as angry, upset and disappointed about it but you'd treat that form of discrimination differently.

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Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 22:04

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 22:02

You have absolutely no idea what I have or haven't previously posted - do you?

I'm past caring. MN can let the thread and delete posts. I still know when my instincts are telling me something is off. My last post.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 22:04

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 22:03

If we changed Afghan to Jewish then would you say it's not a big deal and I shouldn't be outraged? I'd be just as angry, upset and disappointed about it but you'd treat that form of discrimination differently.

Yes, same

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 22:06

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 22:04

I'm past caring. MN can let the thread and delete posts. I still know when my instincts are telling me something is off. My last post.

Then don't accuse me of not having stood up against antisemitism when you have no idea who I am, who my family are, what our background is or what my views are on anyone. You have no clue who I've stood up for, defended or supported. You're choosing to invent a space in this thread for you to be a victim when it simply isn't about you.

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FatefulTriangle · 08/08/2025 22:09

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 22:04

I'm past caring. MN can let the thread and delete posts. I still know when my instincts are telling me something is off. My last post.

You keep promising...

PandoraSocks · 08/08/2025 22:17

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:57

The point being, if the OP and all the others are going to be so passionate about racism, maybe try exerting that same energy to all forms of racism. I don't see the same up in arms posts when a Jewish poster, posts about being discriminated against.

How do you know none of ever post anything about racism towards Jewish people? Have you advance searched us all under all our user names to check?

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 22:34

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PandoraSocks · 08/08/2025 22:38

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Good way of avoiding answering my question.

Oh, and as if nobody else, who pays for premium MN, doesn't use the advanced search facility. Pull the other one

Eh? Advanced search is available to everyone on MN. I can acces it and I don't pay for premium.

My point is that you would have to AS everyone on the thread under every user name to check whether they had posted about antisemitism.

PandoraSocks · 08/08/2025 22:44

PandoraSocks · 08/08/2025 22:38

Good way of avoiding answering my question.

Oh, and as if nobody else, who pays for premium MN, doesn't use the advanced search facility. Pull the other one

Eh? Advanced search is available to everyone on MN. I can acces it and I don't pay for premium.

My point is that you would have to AS everyone on the thread under every user name to check whether they had posted about antisemitism.

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Oops, sorry for quoting a deleted post. It was deleted whilst I was editing!

FatefulTriangle · 08/08/2025 22:48

You wrote "My last post" at 22:04 and yet here you are again.

Oops no, deleted again. Sigh.

Inchworms · 08/08/2025 22:59

OP bloody hell I’m sorry the threads gone like this but I’m in awe of how you’ve dealt with it

its scary out there. My local FB isn’t as bad for racism cos we’re loads of immigrants round here so people tend to shut that shit down. LTNs though, fucking hell that was wild, never knew so many people even had cars or cared, still don’t believe even half of it was real.

MN on the other hand…

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 23:00

FatefulTriangle · 08/08/2025 22:48

You wrote "My last post" at 22:04 and yet here you are again.

Oops no, deleted again. Sigh.

Bless - another.post deleted. Oh well, I will live. Nite sweetie x