Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

[Holmints]

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

It’s the same with all those women who wang on about how beautiful Lizzo was at her heaviest. If their boyfriends turned around and told them they looked like Lizzo all hell would break loose. It’s performative.

I think I know where I could get them, if I wanted them. I have a family member on the injections, which is where I learned about all the serious risks. Yes, you do have to weigh up relative risk but it scared me hearing them list them. I don't judge them for using them at all. it works for them and helps them succeed in their goals, so good for them. I just don't want to do it.

Perhaps you should look at some of the research on the scary long term effects 🙄

They're making assumptions because my diet couldn't be further from what they have described.

The first couple of years I was fat, I believed there was no point wearing nice clothes, getting my hair done or making any effort with my appearance. I avoided being in photos, and even going to places I might see people I knew but hadn’t seen me fat yet. I was convinced the world could only see me when I lost weight. It was seeing people like me online that really helped me find my confidence and enjoy the things I’d restricted myself from again. That and realising I was wasting my life hating myself. It’s taken a lot to love and appreciate my body, more now than I ever have, and yet I am about to start WLIs because I know I’d be even happier and healthier slimmer. Influencers are just people, they can love themselves fat and still prefer to be thin.

Yes, this. I have a friend who bitches about her husband every time I see her, he sounds like an absolute loser... yet her social media regularly posts how loved up they are, perfect family, so grateful she met him etc. It's bizarre but I can only assume it's to make herself feel better about staying with him.

For what it's worth I don't think people do love being really fat. But some have made lots of money from it on social media in the last 10-15 years, and if you were so inclined you may as well make it for work you. Why not? Most people who are obese have struggled with their weight their whole lives, so there's a freedom in embracing it rather than hating yourself and hiding away.

I just found Secret Eaters on YouTube, it was an eye-opener!
People thinking they needed 3 big meals per day plus snacks plus another meal plus multiple shots of spirits/pints of beer or cider/glasses of wine and having no awareness at all of what they were consuming in total calories.
Oh and eating mostly beige food with very little fibre.
I won't say they were eating a lot of UPFs, but there was also no awareness that substances the human body cannot process are stored as "fat" because the body tries to protect itself from "poison".
I am certain that all of the people on the programme would have jumped at the chance of injections purely because they were completely unaware of why they were in that situation.
I strongly suspect this is the case for the vast majority.
People need to eat "proper" food for fuel (and enjoyment) not stuff that comes in packages. People also need to realise that modern living is not the same as doing 12 hours' heavy physical work and adjust their intake accordingly.
To give an example:
Female, aged 66, 165cm tall weighs 62kg, which is in the healthy BMI range, moderately active. According to TDEE she needs about 1300 calories per day to maintain. Recommended intake for females is 2000 calories, so 700 more than required per day. If the guidance is followed in just over 5 days with an intake of 2000 this female would gain a pound of fat.
It makes you think!

No reputable pharmacy is going to supply WLI to a patient with a starting BMI of less than 30 (or 28 for people of a certain ethnicity and existing medical conditions).

And if it’s not a reputable pharmacy then why on earth would you take the risk when they could be giving you any old knock offs?

I’ve been on the jabs and lost over 4 stone. I didn’t love being fat, but I didn't hate my body either. My face definitely looked better with the weight on it, but my body looks better without it. Health was my main motivator though.

Have never heard anyone say they love being fat. I’m fat and I would rather not be. Not fat enough to be able to use injections and not sure that I would do it if I could, but that’s because you don’t know what the long term effects might be, not because I want to stay fat.

Impressive ignorance there. How about you up read up on GLP1levels and insulin resistance and how MJ ACTUALLY works and then come back.

I haven’t seen this at all. Everyone I know who is/was fat absolutely hates it.

I'm not in the UK.

I can still love my body as it is, fat. I don’t feel any need to be ashamed of it.

but from a health perspective, I know that it would be better to weigh less.

Good post - it's not about loving fat, it's about loving yourself and doing your best by yourself at any given time, with any given body size. People still bang on about how fat people wearing nice clothes is 'glamourising obesity' but that is body positivity.

I find that loads of people on the injections either say the injections fixed the hormonal imbalance which was preventing them from losing weight OR they can only lose weight eating like 1000 calories a day and they were putting on weight eating 1400 calories a day before the injections.

Most people won't admit they were a eating way too much before the injections. I was. I can admit this.

I think its cultural.
Every movement which historically had shame attached to it has become performatively positive.

Women are constantly shamed though arent they?
Whether theyre fat or doing something about it.
You cant really avoid the flagellation, but you can say "fuck it" which is probably the only way you're going to make peace with yourself while others are queuing up with something to say about your body.

It went too far to the point obesity was celebrated and justified as ok, when it’s not really, it can be dangerous.

It’s good there is help out there now and people are changing their tunes.

Doesn’t matter. The drugs are approved/licensed for patients with a starting bmi of 30 if you are healthy or 27 if you have certain medical conditions. if you don’t meet those criteria then no reputable pharmacy/ provider in the world will be supplying this medication to you.

I'm overweight (slightly, nothing major).

I never claim to have loved being chunkier, but I do have the confidence to know that there is more to me than my weight, so I dont hold much emphasis on my weight as a whole.

I base things more on my health - can I still exercise regularly? Can I still go out to the shops and buy clothes that I like? Can I eat a treat guilt free? Do I have any health issues relating to my weight?

All the above are yes, so I dont worry too much about the number on the scale or the label on my clothes.

Isn’t it more of a ‘love the skin you’re in’ message. I’m not overweight myself so can’t say for sure, but I always understood the message to be about not hating yourself and being accepting of who you are, fat or thin. Weight loss comes with health benefits so of course many would chose to take advantage of the ‘skinny jabs’, that doesn’t take away from the overall message which is to be ‘body positive’ regardless of size!

Surely the healthiest way to approach weight loss - and the one that's more likely to work in the long run - is from a place of self love? Appreciating that your body needs to be looked after. That you deserve to be healthy and well nourished.

I wonder if the reason so many diets fail is because it comes from an approach of self loathing; I don't deserve 'treats', I need to punish myself through starvation.

What do people really think will be achieved by fat people hating themselves?

I’ve always hated my body. Never been quiet about it and never been quiet in my condemnation for the “body positivity” movement which really just encouraged obesity.

You cant avoid them though! I love the Style and Beauty forum on here but every post I read seems to have someone who just has to mention they need new clothes because they're on Mounjaro - they cant even say 'I've lost weight', they have to mention the sodding jabs.

Plenty of fat people have no interest in taking these jabs. The same way they weren't interested in bariatric surgery or the pills that make you shit orange oil.