AIBU to think the judge’s comments in this case are completely inappropriate?

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A male judge stated he thought the rapist was not a ‘dangerous man’ and that the 13 year old victim had ‘not suffered much degree of psychological harm’

They are deported after they have served their sentence

You want him to serve his sentence don’t you?

He is being deported-after he serves his sentence.

Maybe an investigation into the judiciary members private life is needed. Only one reason for leniency and sympathy towards a scumbag like that.

I wondered why people aren’t immediately deported. Then it was pointed out that a returned criminal might not necessarily be imprisoned in their own country, or released very quickly.

Countries’ crimes differ. For example we see nothing wrong with having an alcoholic drink - but you’d be banged up if you imbibed in some places. Likewise the crime of the individual in the case under discussion might be seen as minor in his place of origin.

Interestingly (or appallingly) there was a case of a patient raping a woman in a London hospital whose defence was that it wasn’t unacceptable in his culture. So if he’d been deported he’d presumably be free as a bird.

Or you could have a go at understanding the legal system in the UK? Once you understand it, you can campaign to get it changed.

There is also the reverse situation-where someone would receive what we would consider an unacceptable sentence if they were deported to their home country.

Frankly, that’s their lookout. If I commit a crime in this country, and I’m deported home and face a worse sentence there, I’ve no one to blame but myself. No sympathy there. I don’t know why it’s any concern of the UK.

Free as a bird but fleeing from persecution war etc they honestly cant have it every way and we could have them serve a sentence here then throw them out however we tend not too do that either

Suicidal empathy.

Ooops you’ve got bigotry and racism mixed up. Silly. Got to be careful

Hmm-might be something to do with..you know, that thing the UK prides itself on….oh yes, I remember-human rights.

Dangerous in this case had a specific meaning in law. As the Faily bigot well knows

Suicidal empathy, as I said. More concerned with the ‘human rights’ of foreign born criminals than British women and girls having the right to walk their neighbourhoods in safety. You think the UK prides itself on this? It’s not much to boast about.

But also you don’t hold jurisdiction over other countries justice systems so how (and why tbh) would you imprison a citizen for something a foreign government wants them punished for, at your country’s expense? It’s just not practical, as well as the other points you raise

(and yes I know there are agreements made where prisoners serve out their sentence in their home country but they are individual arrangements with certain countries and usually swaps)

Human rights are about how you treat the most marginal members of society too.

At what point did I say I don’t want criminals who are a risk to others, regardless of their nationality, locked up?

There have been plenty. Stating for example that 13 year olds can be "asking for it" so that doesn't count as rape in the same way as stranger rape. Its shocking. Have we learned nothing?

Marginal is right! He’s a marginal human being who’s a detriment to society. If he’s not a member of British society and has no interest in becoming a decent one, as shown by his actions, he should be instantly deported. No need for taxpayers money to be wasted on locking him up. Just get him gone.

Did someone say that on here? Jesus-that’s truly awful if true.

No one said that. They said that one instance of rape can be when 13 year old agreed to sex in what they viewed as a romantic relationship with a 16 year old. This is not legally or morally possible and we all agree that girl has been raped.

i think we would also agree there is nuance between that rape and one where a women has been dragged into an isolated area, beaten, left for dead with life long injuries.

you don’t speak on behalf of his victims. Justice is for them, not for you.

Yep, I know, I read it and I don't agree. I find it shocking that people think like that.

Don’t you think like that? I don’t understand your point at all. I’d be really interested to know what you actually mean by this post

Think like what?

My opinion is that rape is rape. The 13 year old girl in your example who "wants it" is no less of a victim than another who is targeted by a stranger.

I am not going to accept that rapist A is a kinder rapist than rapist B. I feel angry even considering that as I write it!