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Volunteering with asylum seekers and refugees

420 replies

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 10:09

There is so much said on MN about asylum seekers and refugees, and often it is speaking about them as a block, rather than by people who know any as individuals.

AIBU to suggest that some of you who currently feel fear and hostility have a go at some volunteering to get to know one or more individuals and see if your feelings change?

There are lots of ways to get involved in helping welcome a refugee to the country, and maybe more people extending more welcome will help with intergration, which seems to be one of the main concerns of some posters.

Many places have volunteers facilitating english conversation sessions, or literacy support. Many councils look for volunteers to support refugee and asylum seeker children in schools, you can ask your local council, or one of the main refugee organisations what volunteering opportunities are available in your area.

Also volunteering with any homeless charity is ineviatably going to bring you into contact with refugees, as so many are sleeping rough

You can find out about people first hand, rather than through the right wing press. Personal relationships can only help people understand each other better

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MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 03/08/2025 18:19

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 18:18

The OP has stated that she lives in an area where there are many asylum seekers.

I live in an area with lots of asylum seekers too. Both my dd and I have volunteered with them.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 18:20

JHound · 03/08/2025 18:08

I would love to volunteer with asylum seekers and refugees but all the things I have seen are work hours. Do you have any good links?

Refugees at Home charity?

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:20

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 18:02

Ok so over the next few decades we’re going to see many more people arrive so we should volunteer so we don’t mind that

Or we could change the system

Any change in the system is going to hugely increase numbers, as we are taking proportionally so few refugees, any readjustment is going to address this. I don't understand why people are finding this so hard to understand! The numbers are not going to go down, they are going to go up. Changing the system to make it fairer will massively increase the numbers of asylum seekers in the UK, as we have such a small number, both by number, density and GDP

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AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:21

The graph I've tried to upload & failed but it's half way down that page, blue & red.

BlueJuniper94 · 03/08/2025 18:22

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:20

Any change in the system is going to hugely increase numbers, as we are taking proportionally so few refugees, any readjustment is going to address this. I don't understand why people are finding this so hard to understand! The numbers are not going to go down, they are going to go up. Changing the system to make it fairer will massively increase the numbers of asylum seekers in the UK, as we have such a small number, both by number, density and GDP

Any change is going to lead to an increase?

We are heading for serious civil disturbance (at best) and no amount of volunteering is going to change that.

5128gap · 03/08/2025 18:24

I think you're BU to try to recruit volunteers from amongst people who hold prejudice against the beneficiary group. People in need of support are not learning tools to teach people not to discriminate. They are entitled to have services delivered to them by people who already have empathy and are non judgemental. Anyone interviewed for a volunteer role who had a problem with the client group would rightly be rejected as a volunteer. If you want to change people's minds, you would do better doing it from within your organisation, awareness raising, case studies and so. I know you mean well, but think your suggestion is misguided.

Mavvera · 03/08/2025 18:24

Are you on the telly.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 18:24

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:20

Any change in the system is going to hugely increase numbers, as we are taking proportionally so few refugees, any readjustment is going to address this. I don't understand why people are finding this so hard to understand! The numbers are not going to go down, they are going to go up. Changing the system to make it fairer will massively increase the numbers of asylum seekers in the UK, as we have such a small number, both by number, density and GDP

Yes I know they will go up. It’s not news. People who have said this have been told they’re ‘scaremongering’. Anyway your post isn’t new information to me.

Whether voters will just say ok is another thing.

So there’s going up unless something changes politically.

Somerford · 03/08/2025 18:25

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:20

Any change in the system is going to hugely increase numbers, as we are taking proportionally so few refugees, any readjustment is going to address this. I don't understand why people are finding this so hard to understand! The numbers are not going to go down, they are going to go up. Changing the system to make it fairer will massively increase the numbers of asylum seekers in the UK, as we have such a small number, both by number, density and GDP

Stop thinking of illegal immigrants as though they're just a thing that happens to us and we get no say in the matter.

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:27

Katesam2016 · 03/08/2025 17:40

You are completely deluded! 😂

I am not deluded, I have been involved in the legal processes I have seen the evidence, I have witnessed the conclusions drawn by experts, and I have done this repeatedly over many decades. I know the reality. I recently supported a young man who was able to prove his identity by professional records on the internet, including using facial recognition technology, and confirm his qualifications, although he will be retaking them in English later. It happens.

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AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:28

Somerford · 03/08/2025 18:25

Stop thinking of illegal immigrants as though they're just a thing that happens to us and we get no say in the matter.

Especially when they are raping our 12-14 year old children in multiple areas of the country.

Jennps · 03/08/2025 18:28

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 17:44

Numbers are going to increase, not decrease, that is the reality, the question is, how to make it work

You can’t pick and choose inevitabilities. If numbers must increase, then social unrest will follow unfortunately.

Open borders have consequences. You can’t wish them away with with meaningless platitudes.

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:29

amber763 · 03/08/2025 18:08

In the year ending March 2025, approximately 77% of the total asylum applications in the UK were from males. This translates to about 64,993 adult males (aged 18 and over) and 12,428 males aged 17 and under. Overall, this means that out of the 109,343 people who applied for asylum in the UK in the year ending March 2025, the majority were male.

I believe the govenment statistics for asylum seekers are that 58% of adults are men?

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Vivienne1000 · 03/08/2025 18:29

ScholesPanda · 03/08/2025 12:57

Yes, that's why the refugees came here, to help white people achieve personal growth.

Thank you magical foreigners.

Have you ever lived in their countries to see how they treat white people? If you want growth, go and live there. You better be prepared for some shocking home truths.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 03/08/2025 18:30

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:14

Actually the per capita stat per nationality shows a vast difference. It shows something like British men 6% likely to commit sexual violence, some other nationalities relatively similar such as France, Angola men. Then when you look at men from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Somalia the figure jumps up to something insane like 70-80%. This has been in the news in the last week.

Your own data doesn't even support these claims.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 18:31

It's a global issue and numbers are going to increase. A change of government and social unrest isn't going to change that

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:32

Carandache18 · 03/08/2025 18:11

I recognise this. Schools in Peterborough used to (and maybe still do) release different ethnic groups at staggered times in the slight hope of minimising aggressive behaviour.

which schools? that would be totally illegal, and very counter productive

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Jennps · 03/08/2025 18:33

JHound · 03/08/2025 18:08

I would love to volunteer with asylum seekers and refugees but all the things I have seen are work hours. Do you have any good links?

Is this like the placard carrying activists who want asylum seekers housed in people’s homes but when asked if they are hosting one, the look at you wide eyed and surprised ‘but I can’t, my place isn’t big enough’.

It’s like bad satire.

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:34

xanthomelana · 03/08/2025 18:16

I’d suggest instead of judging everyone else you come and live in an area where these men are housed then see if you have the same opinion. It’s easy to tell everyone else to volunteer when you are not being directly affected, maybe you can put them up if you feel that passionate about it?

I am in an area where asylum seekers are housed

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Jennps · 03/08/2025 18:34

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 18:31

It's a global issue and numbers are going to increase. A change of government and social unrest isn't going to change that

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Here we go folks. It’s ok, let’s just all be ok with social unrest, because the far left say that pen borders are a must, they won’t accept anything else.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 18:34

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 18:31

It's a global issue and numbers are going to increase. A change of government and social unrest isn't going to change that

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Why not?

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:35

Islavadaukrani · 03/08/2025 18:17

Eh I moved a refugee in to my home as a renter. He needed police escort out in the end. He came to stay in my home under international protection and in the end it was me who needed protecting from him. I wasnt against refugees before and I am sure most are not like this but the damage he done to my home and tried to do to me would deter me from ever trying to help again.

I am sorry to hear you have had such a horrible experience

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xanthomelana · 03/08/2025 18:36

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:34

I am in an area where asylum seekers are housed

But would you take them in? I’m not talking about families from Ukraine I’m talking about the ones we see coming off the boats.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:36

Jennps · 03/08/2025 18:33

Is this like the placard carrying activists who want asylum seekers housed in people’s homes but when asked if they are hosting one, the look at you wide eyed and surprised ‘but I can’t, my place isn’t big enough’.

It’s like bad satire.

I don’t want anyone I don’t know in our home, whatever their citizenship status, because I’m not an idiot.
I’m very happy though that a portion of our household’s considerable tax bill should go towards housing asylum seekers whilst the validity of their claim is investigated.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 18:38

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:36

I don’t want anyone I don’t know in our home, whatever their citizenship status, because I’m not an idiot.
I’m very happy though that a portion of our household’s considerable tax bill should go towards housing asylum seekers whilst the validity of their claim is investigated.

Why would taking a refugee from the Refugee at Home charity make you an idiot?

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