Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Volunteering with asylum seekers and refugees

420 replies

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 10:09

There is so much said on MN about asylum seekers and refugees, and often it is speaking about them as a block, rather than by people who know any as individuals.

AIBU to suggest that some of you who currently feel fear and hostility have a go at some volunteering to get to know one or more individuals and see if your feelings change?

There are lots of ways to get involved in helping welcome a refugee to the country, and maybe more people extending more welcome will help with intergration, which seems to be one of the main concerns of some posters.

Many places have volunteers facilitating english conversation sessions, or literacy support. Many councils look for volunteers to support refugee and asylum seeker children in schools, you can ask your local council, or one of the main refugee organisations what volunteering opportunities are available in your area.

Also volunteering with any homeless charity is ineviatably going to bring you into contact with refugees, as so many are sleeping rough

You can find out about people first hand, rather than through the right wing press. Personal relationships can only help people understand each other better

OP posts:
Thread gallery
6
Dangermoo · 03/08/2025 18:39

GanninHyem · 03/08/2025 17:42

@Panterusblackish the vast majority of group based child abuse is done by white perpetrators. Perhaps we should be advocating for white British men to be locked up somewhere or.... Is it just the Pakistanis you have problems with?

🥱 🥱

Bollihobs · 03/08/2025 18:42

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 13:22

Asylum seekers are not overwhelmingly men, however the media portray them. Men have a small majority, as you would expect. Lots of women and children to, but I dont really think a civilised society is going to deny asylum to a persecuted person based on thier sex?

From Google :

"In the UK, asylum applications are predominantly from males, particularly among adults. In 2024, males accounted for 71% of all applicants, while females made up 29%."

You can have whatever opinion you want OP, but not your own 'facts' and you are woefully wrong with your 'facts' here, why? It's very easily sourced info. At least now you've got the right figures.

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 18:42

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:29

I believe the govenment statistics for asylum seekers are that 58% of adults are men?

How many people claim asylum in the UK? - GOV.UK

70% of people claiming asylum in the year ending September 2024 were male.

Stark contrast with Ukrainian refugees who are almost exclusively women and children.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:42

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 18:38

Why would taking a refugee from the Refugee at Home charity make you an idiot?

Don’t know, tbh. Haven’t read about that. That’ll teach me.

Generally though, very private. Would find hosting anyone very difficult but that’s my issue. Happy to pay for hotel or hostel accommodation, though.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 18:42

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 18:34

Why not?

Because the issues that cause population shift and dispersal are beyond the direct control of governments and certainly can't be influenced by people rioting on the streets.

xanthomelana · 03/08/2025 18:42

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:36

I don’t want anyone I don’t know in our home, whatever their citizenship status, because I’m not an idiot.
I’m very happy though that a portion of our household’s considerable tax bill should go towards housing asylum seekers whilst the validity of their claim is investigated.

So if you wouldn’t have them in your home why should other people have to have them next door or across the road? You don’t trust them but still think it’s acceptable to house them amongst others without proper checks being made to see who these people are.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:43

Off to Google Refugee at Home.

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:43

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:36

I don’t want anyone I don’t know in our home, whatever their citizenship status, because I’m not an idiot.
I’m very happy though that a portion of our household’s considerable tax bill should go towards housing asylum seekers whilst the validity of their claim is investigated.

It's not just housing is it, that makes it sound all nice and comfy.

Big list of things that taxpayers are funding, at huge cost while these grifters sit on their behinds and market the high end hotels & services they're getting to more grifters.

smallglassbottle · 03/08/2025 18:44

GanninHyem · 03/08/2025 17:45

Funny isn't it, I live in an area that takes a lot of refugees, were a city of sanctuary, and most of our population was not born in the UK. Never once experienced these roving gangs of furrin men preying on young girls and children.

Are you in Newcastle upon Tyne by any chance? Because there are gangs of men preying on young girls there. I was talking to a woman who lives on the West Road area and it goes on there apparently.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:44

xanthomelana · 03/08/2025 18:42

So if you wouldn’t have them in your home why should other people have to have them next door or across the road? You don’t trust them but still think it’s acceptable to house them amongst others without proper checks being made to see who these people are.

Quite happily have “them” across the road. Lots of immigrants in our block, in separate flats. Why would that bother us?

Bcci · 03/08/2025 18:44

GanninHyem · 03/08/2025 17:42

@Panterusblackish the vast majority of group based child abuse is done by white perpetrators. Perhaps we should be advocating for white British men to be locked up somewhere or.... Is it just the Pakistanis you have problems with?

I mean the true representation should be seen by per capita.

Arguably the UK's priority should be towards UK citizens. I don't understand why they cross the channel and risk death when the EU is a perfectly safe place

Ponoka7 · 03/08/2025 18:46

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 13:14

Again, it takes people who are prepared to take them on, but it can work out brilliantly if those people are forthcoming - then the asylum seekers can enjoy that satisfaction of supporting someone, too, as well as having references available for if they get refugee status and look for a job

Do you at least recognise that most of the asylum seekers come from countries that don't have a age of consent, see women as chattel and the sexual abuse of children isn't dealt with legally, or culturally abhorrent? Also DV isn't illegal, so there can't be any background checks? There is also a different attitude to disability etc.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:47

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:43

It's not just housing is it, that makes it sound all nice and comfy.

Big list of things that taxpayers are funding, at huge cost while these grifters sit on their behinds and market the high end hotels & services they're getting to more grifters.

Have you been in hospital in the past several months with a life-threatening condition? My husband was. Most of his doctors, nurses and HCAs were immigrants. Or “grifters”, as you’d have it.
Absolute rubbish.

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:48

Jennps · 03/08/2025 18:28

You can’t pick and choose inevitabilities. If numbers must increase, then social unrest will follow unfortunately.

Open borders have consequences. You can’t wish them away with with meaningless platitudes.

you are talking as if it is a UK issue, but it is a world issue. Sudan, southsudan, haiti, mali, all experiencing famine. Madagascar, NE Africa, many asian countries grappling with disastrous climate change - many people from these regions will become refugees, and that is before we start on war zones. Instability and food insecurity are leading to ever increasing numbers of refugees around the world. UN calculates there are 73 million international refugees per year now, compared to 13 million a year 30 years ago. These people are all going to go somewhere, and many more will be coming here.

As climate damage bites, the numbers will only go up. It doesn't really matter who the government is, we all live on planet earth, and that is where the refugee numbers are skyrocketing.

We don't take our fair share, and we will do, eventually. So we really need to tackle the fear and hatred and work on intergration. If )some) refugee men are behaving in such a way to cause fear and hostility, they need to be dealt with, but we also need to find faster ways to build bridges and improve intergration from our end too

OP posts:
Mademetoxic · 03/08/2025 18:49

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:11

I do, through the Refugees at Home charity, but this is not what I am specifically suggesting here- it is a great charity that does a huge amount of good, and I would strongly recommend it for anyone who has a heart to open their home to refugees. (and a spare room) This particular thread was to suggest a way that people with fear could possible get to know some individuals, and help the individuals and help their fear - Refugees at home is not really for people who are afraid

I prefer my animal charities and wildlife charities. Thanks.

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:49

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:47

Have you been in hospital in the past several months with a life-threatening condition? My husband was. Most of his doctors, nurses and HCAs were immigrants. Or “grifters”, as you’d have it.
Absolute rubbish.

They weren't illegal immigrants though were they.

I don't have a problem with highly skilled people who come here to work in the NHS, who come by legal means. But you know that & trying to conflate the 2.

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:51

Although, if you look at the government that cut 50,000 nursing bursaries here in the UK not long ago & how many foreign workers have been brought in to replace them (about 50,000).. that was on the news yesterday. Where we look after our own people we don't need as much immigration.

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:53

xanthomelana · 03/08/2025 18:36

But would you take them in? I’m not talking about families from Ukraine I’m talking about the ones we see coming off the boats.

I have taken many in, and have said so repeatedly, but this is not what this thread is about. This thread is about maybe finding a constructive way for frightened people to make a constructive contribution to breaking down barriers, including their own fear. Hosting a refugee in your own home is not something I would recommend to someone who is fearful. A bit nervous of hosting a stranger is natural, but if you are actively afraid it is not going to work

OP posts:
Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:55

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:36

I don’t want anyone I don’t know in our home, whatever their citizenship status, because I’m not an idiot.
I’m very happy though that a portion of our household’s considerable tax bill should go towards housing asylum seekers whilst the validity of their claim is investigated.

well, exactly, it is not for everyone, and it is not what I was suggesting when I started this thread. Some people feel able to give this a go, some don't and both feelings are totally valid.

OP posts:
Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:57

Bollihobs · 03/08/2025 18:42

From Google :

"In the UK, asylum applications are predominantly from males, particularly among adults. In 2024, males accounted for 71% of all applicants, while females made up 29%."

You can have whatever opinion you want OP, but not your own 'facts' and you are woefully wrong with your 'facts' here, why? It's very easily sourced info. At least now you've got the right figures.

Edited

As I keep saying, the most recent government statistics are that 58% of adult asylum seekers are male, and I have linked to that. (Might be 59 - not sure, but the link is in the thread if you want it)

OP posts:
MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2025 18:58

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 03/08/2025 18:49

They weren't illegal immigrants though were they.

I don't have a problem with highly skilled people who come here to work in the NHS, who come by legal means. But you know that & trying to conflate the 2.

Oh FFS. No, because there are no illegal immigrants.
Until their claim is assessed. It is either granted or rejected. The whacking great majority of people who’s refugee status is granted go on to become net contributors to the UK economy. As do their descendants.

Those whose claim is rejected are deported.

Dangermoo · 03/08/2025 19:00

Mademetoxic · 03/08/2025 18:49

I prefer my animal charities and wildlife charities. Thanks.

Me too x

Dangermoo · 03/08/2025 19:05

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 18:57

As I keep saying, the most recent government statistics are that 58% of adult asylum seekers are male, and I have linked to that. (Might be 59 - not sure, but the link is in the thread if you want it)

What are you hoping to achieve from this thread? All I'm seeing is a dog whistle for white saviours.

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 19:07

Dangermoo · 03/08/2025 19:05

What are you hoping to achieve from this thread? All I'm seeing is a dog whistle for white saviours.

again, why are you saying "white saviours"? Why assume I am white, why assume refugees are not white? Why denigrate any white person who wants to help someone? Does being white mean they can't care and empathise and want to help people?

OP posts:
Dangermoo · 03/08/2025 19:08

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 19:07

again, why are you saying "white saviours"? Why assume I am white, why assume refugees are not white? Why denigrate any white person who wants to help someone? Does being white mean they can't care and empathise and want to help people?

Oh please.

Swipe left for the next trending thread