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DisappointedReader · 2025-08-02T11:25:02+00:00

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It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website [[https://observer.co.uk/collections/the-real-salt-path The real Salt Path | The Observer]] To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for eleven very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome. No saltiness. Keep to the path. Will our life-size cardboard cut-out Simon Armitage keep his head? *NB Timeline coming in the first posts of this thread for reference.*

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 11:51

DisappointedReader · 03/08/2025 11:18

Or maybe it was the very low-calorie diet we survived on because we couldn't afford to eat

To think that this might have resulted in even one person with a serious, degenerative illness subjecting themselves to a low-calorie, poor-nutrition diet in the hope it may help boils my blood.

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Yes it is actually very grim.
As the doctor quoted in the article said, it is important for these patients to accept the terminal diagnosis as early as possible and not waste time chasing miracles, because that will just take away the opporrunity to do the important things.
Add to that the danger of people getting harmed by trying this stuff.

But I dont think Raymoth care about that at all, people with CBD are not even the target audience of their book (too small market anyway), it's just about this man who suffers from a deadly disease hardly anyone has ever heard of, so I think CBD in the book is more of a metaphor of disease and decline in general, and the people actually suffering from it are just collateral damage.

User14March · 03/08/2025 11:53

Isn’t the real biggie now it seems very unlikely TSP was post diagnosis but pre diagnosis? And they were on a shortish camping trip as lost house & local face?

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 11:54

User14March · 03/08/2025 11:53

Isn’t the real biggie now it seems very unlikely TSP was post diagnosis but pre diagnosis? And they were on a shortish camping trip as lost house & local face?

And all of the supposedly honest emotional angst expressed in TSP by SW about Moth's condition is all complete fiction!

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 11:56

CoolBath · 03/08/2025 11:51

There were. They were hilarious, though I don’t think they’re true, but it would actually make a certain amount of sense to see many of the events of TSP as the hallucinations of someone coming off some fairly heavy stuff — the tortoises, the general paranoia about others, the hostility from passers-by etc).

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I can imagine Sal doing a big mea culpa interview on Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail, and when pressed to explain herself fully, uttering the immortal words “… and it was all a dream.”

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DisappointedReader · 03/08/2025 11:57

Ddakji · 03/08/2025 11:08

Today’s “revelations” feel a bit like clutching at straws to me. Got to keep the story running.

The book’s sales have shot up in the meantime.

I still think there is a lot of misunderstanding of how publishing works on these threads, most of which has been said already.

In contrast, I feel it is very significant to be giving those ordinary people a voice. I want to hear the views, and the impact of TSP upon, those not protected by being in the often more privileged and protected literary and publishing world. Over the years since TSP was published, those businesses have been wronged and may have lost customers and reputation if readers believed the negative things they read. Details were changed but the businesses are still identifiable if, for example, they are the only café or pub in those locations.

As a pp has already demonstrated for you, sales of the book have actually continued to fall.

Our discussions on these threads come from a broad perspective and we are very fortunate to have contributors with significant experience of and within the publishing world. However the world, and the impact of TSP, does not begin and end there.

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Aspanielstolemysanity · 03/08/2025 11:58

DisappointedReader · 03/08/2025 11:57

In contrast, I feel it is very significant to be giving those ordinary people a voice. I want to hear the views, and the impact of TSP upon, those not protected by being in the often more privileged and protected literary and publishing world. Over the years since TSP was published, those businesses have been wronged and may have lost customers and reputation if readers believed the negative things they read. Details were changed but the businesses are still identifiable if, for example, they are the only café or pub in those locations.

As a pp has already demonstrated for you, sales of the book have actually continued to fall.

Our discussions on these threads come from a broad perspective and we are very fortunate to have contributors with significant experience of and within the publishing world. However the world, and the impact of TSP, does not begin and end there.

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Same, they've been portrayed in a horrible way and had no way to defend themselves. It's quite right they should have a voice

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 12:00

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 11:21

Maybe she also thought CBS/CBD was a relatively safe choice of condition to mention, because it’s so rare and so little is known about it. I don’t think she imagined people would be poring over every little detail of where it’s mentioned in her books.

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I think I read somewhere the clinical definition of CBD was only made in 2013 (the pathological one earlier)

CoolBath · 03/08/2025 12:00

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 11:51

The more I read the ‘frustrated box ticker under a shell of hippy cool’ description, the more I love it 🤣🤣 that’s probably one of my favourite sentences in the whole book. Many passages aren’t particularly well written, but every so often, and mostly when something has reeeally got her back up, our Sal shows she has a way with words.

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Her writing is absolutely at its sharpest when she’s being snippy about someone she’s had a very short interaction with!

Poor Tadge, an actual hippy dismissed as a jobsworth because he wanted people who’d camped on a campsite to pay. I mean, they don’t even apologise — they seem to expect him to say ‘Oh, fine, no charge’ when they say they’ll be gone within the hour, and get very pissy when he doesn’t. And then jump the wall and don’t pay anyway. (No apparent guilt about this, unlike the theft of the fudge, which was far less than £15 in value, and even though someone actually challenges the this time.)

mauvishagain · 03/08/2025 12:03

Maybe it's not so much that TW has withheld consent for a research paper, and more that is all a load of codswallop and therefore there's no such paper to write.

SereneLilac · 03/08/2025 12:03

'frustrated box ticker under a shell of hippy cool’

She's describing herself

crossedlines · 03/08/2025 12:05

DisappointedReader · 03/08/2025 11:57

In contrast, I feel it is very significant to be giving those ordinary people a voice. I want to hear the views, and the impact of TSP upon, those not protected by being in the often more privileged and protected literary and publishing world. Over the years since TSP was published, those businesses have been wronged and may have lost customers and reputation if readers believed the negative things they read. Details were changed but the businesses are still identifiable if, for example, they are the only café or pub in those locations.

As a pp has already demonstrated for you, sales of the book have actually continued to fall.

Our discussions on these threads come from a broad perspective and we are very fortunate to have contributors with significant experience of and within the publishing world. However the world, and the impact of TSP, does not begin and end there.

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100% agree.

I can only imagine how frustrating and upsetting it must have been for all these ordinary people, struggling to run small businesses, to see a best seller totally misrepresenting them and maligning them. And then to see that best selling author spouting the same myth on book tours, then seeing the film being made with world famous actors…

these ordinary people didn’t have a voice. Who would have listened to some unknown cafe owner, or camp site manager saying ‘actually it wasn’t like that’?

Aside from any other revelations (which will no doubt come out in the future) I applaud CH for giving a voice to the ordinary hard working people who’ve been wronged by RW.

Choux · 03/08/2025 12:05

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 12:00

I think I read somewhere the clinical definition of CBD was only made in 2013 (the pathological one earlier)

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The pathological liar diagnosis? Yea the nephew made that some weeks ago.

I wish he would speak out. I imagine other relatives have told him not to wash the family’s dirty linen in public. Shame.

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 12:08

Choux · 03/08/2025 12:05

The pathological liar diagnosis? Yea the nephew made that some weeks ago.

I wish he would speak out. I imagine other relatives have told him not to wash the family’s dirty linen in public. Shame.

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I wish he would speak out. I imagine other relatives have told him not to wash the family’s dirty linen in public. Shame.

I wonder if he has spoken/will speak to Chloe H off the record?

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 12:10

crossedlines · 03/08/2025 12:05

100% agree.

I can only imagine how frustrating and upsetting it must have been for all these ordinary people, struggling to run small businesses, to see a best seller totally misrepresenting them and maligning them. And then to see that best selling author spouting the same myth on book tours, then seeing the film being made with world famous actors…

these ordinary people didn’t have a voice. Who would have listened to some unknown cafe owner, or camp site manager saying ‘actually it wasn’t like that’?

Aside from any other revelations (which will no doubt come out in the future) I applaud CH for giving a voice to the ordinary hard working people who’ve been wronged by RW.

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I’m curious about whether these revelations are just the tip of the iceberg. I wonder whether more people might come forward and speak to Chloe H in the coming weeks/months if they recognise they had an interaction with Raymoth that’s worth reporting.

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 03/08/2025 12:10

As someone who used to work in publishing, I'm absolutely astonished that the Observer managed to get hold of the original typescript of TSP - well done, Chloe! Although it's likely to have been submitted electronically, which increases access up to a point, there would still be very few people who would have handled that: the commissioning editor, a copy editor (probably external), and potentially the art director and maybe someone in sales and marketing. The copy could have been leaked from the agent's office, of course, but that's an even smaller pool. There will be an internal investigation and heads are likely to roll.

Toomuchstufff · 03/08/2025 12:11

CoolBath · 03/08/2025 11:46

That could absolutely have been dropped in from anywhere in a RL timeline. It certainly sits very strangely where it is placed in the narrative of TWS, where they’ve signed a tenancy agreement for the cider farm with Bill Cole in late 2018, and only moved onto the farm in spring 2019 when TSP comes out in paperback, and started rewilding. Leaving for a completely optional Iceland holiday at the end of August/start of September of that year, just when they would be about to manage their first apple harvest, seems like a deeply weird decision.

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RW IG has them moving to the cider farm just before Christmas of 2018.

It is strange they do the Iceland walk in Aug / Sept 2019 according to TWS but by October 2019 TW is quoted by the doctors of complaining of constant migraines and parasthesia of the feet which I would have thought would have made the Iceland walk very challenging.

photos of Iceland on RW IG meanwhile come from 2017 — there are (now?) no photos at all from autumn 2019

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 12:12

CoolBath · 03/08/2025 11:40

The one @Choux posted screenshots of in this thread (not online, or at least not that I can see) is far more significant.

In a way I’m puzzled as to why that wasn’t the ‘lead’ story on it, rather than three people annoyed at how they or their establishments were fictionalised negatively. (Though I actually find it hilarious that Tadge, the Treen campsite guy who is characterised as a ‘frustrated box ticker ‘under a shell of hippy cool’ is actually a proper off grid back to the land hippy, far more so than the Walkers.)

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Agree to the printed ones being more significant.
I can understand why they would reserve them for the print paper though, but I don't understand why they did not put any hint of their existence into the online article, as an incentive for people to buy that.
If it hadn't been mentioned on the thread, I would never have known they existed.

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 12:13

Toomuchstufff · 03/08/2025 12:11

RW IG has them moving to the cider farm just before Christmas of 2018.

It is strange they do the Iceland walk in Aug / Sept 2019 according to TWS but by October 2019 TW is quoted by the doctors of complaining of constant migraines and parasthesia of the feet which I would have thought would have made the Iceland walk very challenging.

photos of Iceland on RW IG meanwhile come from 2017 — there are (now?) no photos at all from autumn 2019

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It is strange they do the Iceland walk in Aug / Sept 2019 according to TWS but by October 2019 TW is quoted by the doctors of complaining of constant migraines and parasthesia of the feet which I would have thought would have made the Iceland walk very challenging.

Also strange that the walks are meant to be curative, yet TW doesn’t seem at all - ermmm - cured? Can you please get your story straight, Raymoth?

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 12:14

Hyenana · 03/08/2025 12:12

Agree to the printed ones being more significant.
I can understand why they would reserve them for the print paper though, but I don't understand why they did not put any hint of their existence into the online article, as an incentive for people to buy that.
If it hadn't been mentioned on the thread, I would never have known they existed.

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Presumably there’s a reason why they put more content in the print edition. Maybe they’ll put it online later?

SuffolkSun · 03/08/2025 12:14

User14March · 03/08/2025 11:18

Maybe I’ve missed something but what’s to say Moth doesn’t have MS or Parkinsons?

Parkinsons (and MS) is more common and more widely understood in terms of presentation and progression, and would be the first thing looked for when a patient describes various symptoms. If the patient doesn't respond to treatment or the disease progression falls outside of "typical" Parkinsons, then other things are looked for.

And on the "doctors said our cheap noodle diet is possibly a cure" nonsense - (a lot of) diet and nutrition advice is available, and given, but for the purpose of maintaining overall health as much as possible (and perhaps because, psychologically, eating well is one of the few ways a patient has to feel like they have some control over what's happening). None of this advice would be "eat empty, low nutrition carbs topped up with portions of fried potatoes and cheap chocolate and you'll be fine". Like others, I'm amazed the PRH editor(s) allowed this to go through.

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 12:14

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 12:13

It is strange they do the Iceland walk in Aug / Sept 2019 according to TWS but by October 2019 TW is quoted by the doctors of complaining of constant migraines and parasthesia of the feet which I would have thought would have made the Iceland walk very challenging.

Also strange that the walks are meant to be curative, yet TW doesn’t seem at all - ermmm - cured? Can you please get your story straight, Raymoth?

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The walk was only a couple of weeks wasn't it. I walked the trail some years ago and it was only something like 55km long.

AldoGordo · 03/08/2025 12:15

SwetSwetSwet · 03/08/2025 11:32

Re the cricket. This is the quote from TSP:
‘Five overs left. They’re talking about the light. There’s a chance it could be a draw; it’s a shame – we could win this.’
We lay in the grass by the tent and watched seagulls flying over in flocks as England won the Ashes, but the match was a draw and Jonathan Agnew got in a flap about it being a ‘disgrace’.

This seems to be the fifth test, 21 to 25 August 2013, and is very similar to the bbc report, which is also mentioned in wiki.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/23837976

But, in fact, England had already won the ashes, as that was the fifth test match, and they had won 3. I'm puzzled why Moth hadn't been listening to the cricket before the final day!

Was the radio cricket scene in 2013 or 2014 jourbey leg?

User14March · 03/08/2025 12:16

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 11:54

And all of the supposedly honest emotional angst expressed in TSP by SW about Moth's condition is all complete fiction!

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What’s the best evidence we now have re: walk being pre diagnosis? The consultants letters and…?

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 12:17

SuffolkSun · 03/08/2025 12:14

Parkinsons (and MS) is more common and more widely understood in terms of presentation and progression, and would be the first thing looked for when a patient describes various symptoms. If the patient doesn't respond to treatment or the disease progression falls outside of "typical" Parkinsons, then other things are looked for.

And on the "doctors said our cheap noodle diet is possibly a cure" nonsense - (a lot of) diet and nutrition advice is available, and given, but for the purpose of maintaining overall health as much as possible (and perhaps because, psychologically, eating well is one of the few ways a patient has to feel like they have some control over what's happening). None of this advice would be "eat empty, low nutrition carbs topped up with portions of fried potatoes and cheap chocolate and you'll be fine". Like others, I'm amazed the PRH editor(s) allowed this to go through.

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I thiiink low calorie diets can help with some conditions - e.g. high blood pressure, pre-diabetes, diabetes and some heart-related conditions. Michael Mosley and Tim Spector, in particular, have done a lot of research into this over the last years. But the diets have to be discussed with a doctor first, of course, and have to contain calories from healthy and balanced food sources, as you say, and not from ultra-processed foods.

User14March · 03/08/2025 12:19

Catwith69lives · 03/08/2025 12:14

The walk was only a couple of weeks wasn't it. I walked the trail some years ago and it was only something like 55km long.

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Cape Wraith walk arguably offers the most miraculous recovery yet he’s in robust physical health ‘the best he’s been for years!’.

So much so she’s keeping the rucksack by the door in case he falters again.