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That My car is now £30 a week Disel instead of £15[angry]mad rant!!

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ppie · 28/05/2008 14:37

I think I am going to explode, every 2nd day the garage at the bottom of my road has gone up 2p a litre. Its bloody profiteering. I need the car to get dd to nursery, shops ect as out in the boondocs!!!
How much longer can this go on. In the usa they were all up in arms coz it was $4 a GALLON or something ridiculous like that. Wouldnt mind so much if the goverment really insisit we use buses, train, hot air balloon!! watever that the bloody bus would be more that 1 an hour and not cost £3.80 for a 20 min journey each way AAAAHHHHHHH

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Psychomum5 · 28/05/2008 17:39

aha......yes....of course......

NOW I remember.....

well, megs is yr9, holly yr7, one in fry house, t'other in bronte.

BouncingTurtle · 28/05/2008 17:44

Clearly some of you did not read my post

Yes it is fecking annoying the price of fuel going up, but, it as I said earlier...
"Fuel boycotts don't work. Whatever it costs the oil companies to extract the oil, they have to sell it on the open market at the going rate and their retail divisions then have to buy their own fuel. That means there is sod all they can do about prices as they face the soaring cost of oil.
Which in case you didn't know is a 100% increase since 12 months ago. And an 1100% increase since late 2001. Because we pay more duty than other countries our rises have been slower (fuel being a smaller percentage the bit going up in price is smaller."

It is in fact OPEC and NOT duty that is driving up the cost of fuel. Yes the duty does not help, but in a way it does - because a smaller proportion of the pump price goes to the retailer means we are seeing smaller increases than in parts of Mainland Europe.
The price of fuel we are paying now has gone up by approximately 50%, but in the same period of time crude oil has doubled in price.
If Gordon Brown did reduce duty, do you honestly believe that the price of fuel would go down? Oh I'm sure the retailers would make a token gesture in reducing fuel prices, but it wouldn't last - and would continue to rise again.
I just had a quick look at the break down of the pump price (curious myself) and it is thus
66% duty
28% cost of product (this'll include the manufacturer's profit)
6% retailers' cost and profit.

So only 6% of the price you pay goes to the retailers. Therefore any reduction in duty will end up in the ret and will look to increase their profits - knowing we will pay (after we are now!).
The oil companies are still reaping huge profits as the price of crude oil is going up - as demand increases, the value goes up. OPEC controls the amount of oil that is produced worldwide (with the exception of Russia and Canada) and they have actually ask for production to be reduced over the last 5 years!

BouncingTurtle · 28/05/2008 17:45

hmm seem to be missing some letters!

"in the retailers' pockets"

mummylin2495 · 28/05/2008 17:49

i will ask them later and report back ,i used to be in bronte house ,but went to glenmoor !!

mummylin2495 · 28/05/2008 17:51

sorry bouncing turtle for the hijack !

BouncingTurtle · 28/05/2008 17:53

Don't apologise to me I didn't start it!

FWIW I'm dismayed as well about the price increases, especially because I'll be going back to work in September and my fuel bill will be going up to around £160 a month, when it was only £120 last year - I have a 60 mile round trip to work. Basically it is incentive for me to look for something much closer to home...

mummylin2495 · 28/05/2008 18:36

physcho both gd,s in fry house ! younger one thinks she may know your youngest,does surname start with P ? i can tell you that youngest gd danced in front of the school last week on the last day of term !so your dd,s must of seen her do that ,her name is jorden. oldest gd is in yr8 and name is toni

pointydog · 28/05/2008 18:44

Why do so many people just blame Gordon Brown? Big Business seem to have no responsibility for anything in some people's eyes

expatinscotland · 28/05/2008 18:46

Well, maybe because the government is the only one with the power to police and regulate big business, pointy.

And they've chosen not to do that.

Their policies have only encouraged big businesses' practices.

BouncingTurtle · 28/05/2008 19:00

Hence my suggestion of windfall taxing them until they do something about the complete lack of diesel refinery capacity!

sarah293 · 29/05/2008 09:16

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TinkerbellesMum · 29/05/2008 09:28

The people making the most profit from fuel is the government, we're paying over half of the cost to them, very little goes into the pocket of the retailer - in fact the big stores dropped their profit levels a few years ago to try and help, which forced some smaller companies out of business. For every penny that fuel goes up it goes up 2p for us. The government could cap the tax rather than getting constant pay rises out of us.

sarah293 · 29/05/2008 09:44

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mumoftwo37 · 29/05/2008 09:44

The Government have had "an unexpected windfall" due to the increase in oil prices and so they can afford to drop the tax. I think it is criminal in what they are doing at the moment - why do no other country pay the same amount in fuel duty as the UK? I am disabled and can't get to the bus stop, let alone get on a bus! Fortunately DS1 goes on the school bus, DS2 walks to school and DH cycles to work, and I just don't go out! We have a Citroen Picasso 1.6 diesel and get about 600 miles to a tank of fuel which at the moment lasts us about 6 weeks. I think the government should offer some help towards fuel costs for the disabled - it is not my fault I can't use public transport or walk.
When they bring in the new car tax thing then I think there is going to be a riot like there was in the days of the poll tax.

NotABanana · 29/05/2008 09:45

Out local garage has always been expensive and it goes up every other day. 2 days ago it was £1.15 for petrol and £1.30 for diesel so goodness knows what it is now.

I filled up in Tesco last week and it was just short of £58.

sarah293 · 29/05/2008 09:46

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mumoftwo37 · 29/05/2008 09:49

NO Riven the tax isn't responsible for the prices going up, but the fact that the government takes 65% of the price is the reason why our fuel in the UK is so much more expensive than the rest of the world.

sarah293 · 29/05/2008 09:55

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TinkerbellesMum · 29/05/2008 10:00

Accepted Riven, but are you saying this cost goes up in line with the price of fuel rising?

It doesn't have to be cut, it could be capped.

TinkerbellesMum · 29/05/2008 10:00

Accepted about CTC, I didn't see the other replies when I started writing.

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