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Not sure what to do about dd’s boyfriend (17), he's being made homeless

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Mid40smum · 01/08/2025 20:37

My dd is 18 and has been with her boyfriend for almost a year now but they’ve known each other a long time. He joined her school when they were 14 and they were just mates for ages before it turned into anything more. He’s had a rough time at home for as long as I can remember. He told dd that when he was younger his stepdad used to hit him and his mum would just brush it off or pretend it didn’t happen. Now he says if his stepdad ever tried anything again he’d hit him back so it sounds like he’s just had to learn to defend himself.

He has three younger siblings and they’ve been taken into care but he wasn’t. I think it’s because of his age maybe but not sure. He said he used to basically be raising them himself anyway. Buying food for them with his apprenticeship wages and feeding them and getting them ready for school. He also told dd once that he remembers watching his dad get arrested when he was little and his mum tells him it didn’t happen and that he dreamt it but he’s adamant that it did and to be honest it sounds believable.

He’s been coming to our house for dinner for a couple of years now. He never really had meals at home and I just wanted to make sure he was eating properly. He’s always been polite and grateful and he’s good with the baby too.

Back in March last year dd told me she was pregnant. I was shocked and upset at first but I told her I’d support her. She said her boyfriend was the father even though they weren’t together at the time. She said they’d only slept together once and he didn’t believe her at first which upset her because he was the only person she’d ever been with. A few days later he came round and told her he did want to be involved and that he wanted the baby and wanted to build a family. He said he wanted someone to love him and be there for him which was quite heartbreaking really. They got together properly in May and my gorgeous grandson was born in December.

He was still trying to care for his siblings after the baby was born but he started to realise he couldn’t be there for everyone. So he told the school everything and that’s how the siblings ended up being taken into care. His mum is furious with him and has told him she wants him out on his 18th birthday which is on the 12th so he’s only got 11 days left. He stays at ours most nights anyway but it’s different knowing he’s properly being kicked out.

He’s asked me to help him and dd get a place of their own. He said he’s going to be homeless and I don’t know if he meant to guilt trip me but it sort of felt that way. I do believe he’s scared though. Dd said she would like to help and told him they could look after his siblings if social services allowed it but she told me separately that she doesn’t think that will happen. She’s worried he’s getting his hopes up and she’s probably right. She’s only 18 herself and has a young baby and the youngest sibling is only 3.

I think the thing that worries me is how intense he is emotionally. He seems to need constant reassurance. Like all the time. He wants dd to be cuddling him or kissing him or telling him she loves him. If she’s focused on the baby too long he gets upset and says things like she doesn’t love him anymore or that he doesn’t matter. Yesterday I heard him shouting at her saying why don’t you love me and then half an hour later they were sitting on the sofa together like nothing happened.

I do think he has some serious attachment issues. I’ve suggested he speak to someone but he won’t. He just laughs it off or says he doesn’t need help.

I don’t really know what to do. He is a good dad and I do think he loves dd and the baby but I don’t know if they’re ready to have their own place and maybe be responsible for his siblings too. And I’m also worried that this constant need for love and attention from dd will end up dragging her down. She’s already tired with the baby and now she’s trying to carry him emotionally too.

Sorry this is all so long and messy just needed to write it all down really.

OP posts:
OneNeatBlueOrca · 01/08/2025 21:23

Got pregnant to him when they weren't even together. So there's split up, and she was still having sex with him. Then he doesn't believe her that the child is his.

You're considering moving this man into your home. I know legally he's still a child, but he's nasty.

Quite frankly, she should have had a termination. But the baby's here now and don't make it any worse by moving that man into your home. Protect your daughter from him. She's got enough on her plate without him.

Mid40smum · 01/08/2025 21:24

Thanks for the replies

We do have space for him technically. He already sleeps in dd’s room with her and the baby 4 or 5 nights a week. The other nights he still usually comes here for dinner and helps with the bedtime routine and says goodnight to the baby before going back to his mum’s or sometimes a mate’s. So he’s kind of already half living here but I do know that full time is different. Dd wouldn’t get any space away from him and I’m not sure she even realises how intense that could get over time.

I do worry about what will happen to him if he’s out on the street. I know it’s hard for young lads to get housed and he’s told dd before that the only reason he’s still here is because of her and the baby. That properly scared me if I’m honest. He’s not said anything recently like that but it’s stuck with me. I don’t think he’s into drugs but I know what can happen when someone’s vulnerable and alone and I do worry that’s a risk.

He doesn’t seem too upset about being kicked out but I think that’s probably because he’s trying to act like it doesn’t bother him. He said at least his mum won’t be taking his money anymore. She doesn’t mean rent either she just asks him for money constantly. I’ve seen messages from her that say things like “don’t come home unless you’ve got 30 quid” or “I know you get paid today don’t lie to me” and when he doesn’t reply she sends stuff like “you’re just like your useless dad” or “you’re nothing but a drain” and worse. Some of it’s actually vile and I don’t know how he just puts up with it.

To the poster who said she shouldn’t have had a baby with him – she was absolutely set on keeping the baby no matter what. She told me early on that if he walked away she’d still have the baby and raise him herself. She didn’t make that decision for anyone but herself.

OP posts:
EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 01/08/2025 21:28

@Mid40smum Does your local area have a Central Advice and Duty team? They could be a shout. My local area has a housing association specifically for late teens struggling for somewhere to go.

Createausername1970 · 01/08/2025 21:28

Oh wow. What an awful situation.

My heart would be saying give him a temporary roof while he sorted himself out.

My head would be saying that I adopted a 3 year old with a very troubled background and it's been tough. The bf has his issues, but so will the siblings, and caring for the siblings isn't something your DD should have to contend with unless she is fully on board with it and had some input/training courses etc from Social Services.

Plus if he moved in, would he leave again?

Very hard for you.

But whatever you do, your DD needs to have a large say in it.

titchy · 01/08/2025 21:30

headsashed2 · 01/08/2025 21:23

I was in your daughter’s position at 18, my then partner was going through a very similar situation and I hated my mum at the time for not helping him. However, looking back now I understand because his neediness completely drained me, and this “you don’t love me” thing became abusive, I’m not saying your daughter’s partner will at all, although he’s already showing signs of being controlling, Just be very wary. Your daughter isn’t a rehabilitation centre for a broken man as harsh as that may sound. Do what you can to keep your daughter with you and tell him to go the council, they’ll have things in place for homeless young people.

This x 100. Your priority is your dd, not him. He will damage her, if he hasn’t already, if he moves in.

Velmy · 01/08/2025 21:32

The whole getting jealous of the baby thing would be a red flag for me, but based on what you've said, he's obviously dealing with massive issues stemming from his upbringing and what sounds like a complete lack of love and support at home. So I'd be willing to cut him some slack, to a point.

It's obviously a lot easier said than done, but if he wants to be a father to his child, he'll need to step up. His living situation is no fault of his own, but he should have plans in place for work so he can work towards getting something more permanent.

If he was working and doing his fare share with the kid, I'd let him stay with you...but make sure they're both aware that it's temporary until he's back on his feet. It's a massive responsibility at that age, especially with no family support, but he'll either do his best or he won't.

RaininSummer · 01/08/2025 21:34

As a single young man I would be surprised if the council provide housing but as a homeless young person there should be help to get a room in a shared house. He will need to claim universal credit to help with the rent probably unless he has a well paid apprenticeship. I wonder if your area has the organisation called The Zone or similar which helps with young people in housing and other crises.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 01/08/2025 21:36

Be careful not to impose adult standards on a 17 year old.

He isn't a grown man in his thirties.Who's had considerable life experience and relationships.

Probably he is jealous of the baby. But he's had emotionally abusive upbringing with a mother who is useless by the sound of it.

He's probably jealous of the baby, but then again he is still legally a child. Doesn't have the emotional maturity of a grown man yet. Having said all that doesn't mean he should become the poor daughter's problem to sort out. She needs to worry about herself.

hmmimnotsurewhy · 01/08/2025 21:39

I honestly wouldn’t let him move in. They are incredibly young. Don’t lose sight that just because they made a baby, they are anywhere near adults. They depend on their families so they are just children getting involved with adult stuff.
he sounds like he has a lot of trauma in his life from his family, he needs to work through this away from your incredibly young daughter. I think you will be making a big mistake by allowing them to live together.

most of these young teenage relationships fizzle out anyway, so tie your dd down if she can’t cope with him?

hmmimnotsurewhy · 01/08/2025 21:42

OneNeatBlueOrca · 01/08/2025 21:23

Got pregnant to him when they weren't even together. So there's split up, and she was still having sex with him. Then he doesn't believe her that the child is his.

You're considering moving this man into your home. I know legally he's still a child, but he's nasty.

Quite frankly, she should have had a termination. But the baby's here now and don't make it any worse by moving that man into your home. Protect your daughter from him. She's got enough on her plate without him.

This. You should never have encouraged this relationship in the first place. Hopefully she is studying and pursuing her life or plans to.

these are two kids. He needs to find his way. Think of all the hundreds of things that could go wrong and it will, and then how will you get him to leave?
this right here is the opportunity to not let this become a problem in your home.

PInkyStarfish · 01/08/2025 21:45

Unfortunately, his home life is simmering away inside him and is likely to spill out at some point so under no circumstances would I let him live with you.

He needs to be encouraged to live independently and learn to stand on his own two feet. Playing happy families with your daughter is not going to happen as he is so young and has massive issues that have not healed.

AnneLovesGilbert · 01/08/2025 21:45

He needs his own place.

He’s incredibly manipulative and emotionally abusive, for reasons relating to his shitty upbringing no doubt, but that’s not your daughter’s fault and it’s definitely not the baby’s fault.

He is not a good dad if he’s jealous of a tiny baby and resents your DD caring for the baby. Worrying. If he wants to play at being a grown up he needs to try and own his issues and get whatever appropriate help is available to him before he drags your DD down with him or compromises the baby’s childhood and well being. He needs his own housing and a job.

HonoriaBulstrode · 01/08/2025 21:45

I agree he shouldn't move in. DD needs time and space away from him. I would also, so far as she can with the baby, be encouraging her to keep up with her friends, her plans for education or work, and so on, so that she has a life independent of him.

Givenupshopping · 01/08/2025 21:46

I agree with most other posters, much as you likely feel the urge to let him join you and become part of the family, I don't think you'll be doing anyone any favours by doing so. I'd advise him to speak to the SS and see what they can do to help him, especially as he wants to take care of his siblings, although in all honesty I can't see him being allowed to do this.

With regard to your daughter, I'd have a serious chat with her, while he's not around, tell her what you've heard, and try and explain and get her to see that, she CANNOT save him. He has been severely damaged by his parents, and having been assaulted by his Stepdad, has likely grown up seeing his way of parenting, which while he will have hated him for it, he may still have been influenced by it, and repeat the behaviour that he's learned. He does sound like he's controlling, and if he's staying at yours, I'd be inclined to tell him that you've heard him putting pressure on your DD, and that is not the way to get someone to love you. If he insists that he wants to be a good father and partner, then I would suggest to your DD that if it all gets too much, then maybe she should give him an ultimatum, ie, you either get counselling for all you've been through, or it's over. Obviously this shouldn't be done at this point, because he will be feeling VERY vulnerable, and sadly, young men in this situation, are among those likely to commit suicide, if faced with things they can't cope with, so it would need to be done after he's got his own place to live.

Do please keep us posted on how this progresses OP

UnbeatenMum · 01/08/2025 21:51

Don't move him in. He sounds very needy and hard work, possibly emotionally abusive. If you want to help then go with him to the council and support him to make a homelessness application ASAP. If he has any additional needs or support needs (e.g. mental health) do mention that too as he would then be considered more of a priority.

StrictlySequinsandStiIettos · 01/08/2025 21:51

If I had space and if my DD wanted it then yes, I'd have him live with me. I'd go as far as to say, I'd babysit for them to have a date night and I'd ask for a contribution for bills/food but encourage him to save up for a deposit.
I'd speak to SS myself regarding waiting lists and I'd ask where he can visit his siblings/have them visit. There is no way he can have custody of them at his age and with no roof over his head but he ought to have visiting rights.
What does he do? Is he working atm? What are his ambitions? What does your daughter do? What does she want? All those things would play a part too.

fatphalange · 01/08/2025 21:58

He will be housed by local authority. If you ‘take him in’ however that could actually go against them/him finding a place.
It’s likely to be a shared HMO. The fact he is a father muddies the waters. If your Dd and he are to be together as a family you should probably support your DD in finding a home for all of them since it is for her and your grandchild’s well-being as well as this lad’s. My heart breaks for the responsibility on his shoulders at such a young age :(

Mid40smum · 01/08/2025 22:02

Just to clear something up they’ve never split up. When my grandson was conceived they weren’t together but they had never been together before that either. It was just a one time thing when they were both drunk. He didn’t believe the baby was his at first because it had only happened once and I think he was just shocked more than anything.

After that though he came round very quickly. He went to every scan, every appointment he was allowed to, and he was at the birth too (alongside me). He didn’t want to cut the cord so he asked me to but he was actually brilliant with dd while she was in labour. Afterwards he kept telling her how proud he was and how amazing she’d been. Honestly he was probably better than some grown men I’ve seen in the same situation.

Since the baby’s been born he’s been consistent. He comes round every day whether he’s staying here that night or not. When he is sleeping here he pulls his weight with the baby. He gets up at 6 for his apprenticeship so if the baby wakes around then he’ll get up and do the feed or change so dd can stay in bed a bit longer until he leaves for work.

Dd is planning to go back to college next month so they’ve been trying to figure out how to juggle everything.

I do worry about the jealousy side of things though. It’s not constant but if dd is cuddling the baby for too long or really focused on him he’ll start asking her to cuddle him instead. I know that’s not normal and it makes me uneasy. I think it’s about him needing reassurance but I don’t know how healthy that is.

Just to add he hasn’t directly asked me if he can move in. What he has asked is whether I can help them get a place of their own. Dd has brought it up too, she said they’ve been talking about it a lot. About having somewhere stable and the baby having his own room and space etc.

I really do appreciate all the responses. I know it’s a complicated situation and not everyone will agree with how I’m handling it but it helps having outside perspectives.

OP posts:
EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 01/08/2025 22:06

I think you’re doing really well in less than ideal circumstances OP. All power to you Flowers

StrictlySequinsandStiIettos · 01/08/2025 22:09

Does the college have a crèche? The biggest thing right now is wraparound care for your grandchild, so she can complete her studies.
What's his apprenticeship in?
I'd be reaching out to the council/his social worker and trying to work out a plan.
But personally, I'd rather have them together under my own roof than living together away from me, until much older/the circumstances are easier especially with any concerns.
Let's face it, whether they make it or not, hopefully he'll always be in your lives. I'd be providing as much practical support as possible if this is what your daughter wants.

fthisfthatfeverything · 01/08/2025 22:11

help him get his own place.

Whomitmayconcern · 01/08/2025 22:22

I think he has potential despite the really difficult start. I would let him stay as stop gap until he gets his own place. But limited time as social services won’t help if he’s safe. This is so you can supervise discreetly. I think I ‘d be honest and say dd and GC stay with you. She can visit him but I would say to both realistically the relationship isn’t going to last enjoy it whilst it does.
You also can model to both what parenting and being a good mum is. So when dd is cuddling baby, and he’s complaining, you may say no it’s important she is cuddling because that is what a mum and dad should do for their child. He needs to take his turn cuddling as well. Sounds as though he might need some mothering himself but just being kind to him, treating him with some respect is probably helpful. you can also support dd as she will find it tough and you can make sure he pulls his weight even when novelty of baby has worn off. Maybe you can give him a cuddle as mum in law and then cuddle your dd.
I would also say he needs to give dd maintenance towards baby and support so she can go to college and he needs to stick with apprenticeship and get a job. His own place is somewhere they can have time together eg date night if you babysit. That way baby is looked after and they can both be teenagers. Also dd needs to be on contraception and so should he (belt and braces) I’d make it clear no more support if baby number 2 is before college and apprenticeship finishes. I think they all 3 need structure and a routine so they can stick with it even when they parents are tired.
Don’t take the younger kids. They are better off in foster care and he can have contact with them. Foster carers if long term may also help support you and dd, if they take a shine to him and think he’s positive for his siblings. Good luck.
Hope it makes sense and sorry for any typos

Whomitmayconcern · 01/08/2025 22:27

Also is your daughter’s father around?

cestlavielife · 01/08/2025 22:27

Him and your daughter need therapy with a family therapist
Him especially
Any help you offer is contingent on him getting support

OneNeatBlueOrca · 01/08/2025 22:29

cestlavielife · 01/08/2025 22:27

Him and your daughter need therapy with a family therapist
Him especially
Any help you offer is contingent on him getting support

She's 18 she needs to drop his arse to the kerb.

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