To use sun cream?

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A minor celebrity I follow on Insta is currently away on holiday in a sunny destination. As with a lot of influencers they holiday a few times a year. Her and her children always look sun kissed and have a tan. She was doing a AMA yesterday and someone asked what sun cream she uses for her and the kids and she stated that they don't use sun cream. Instead they wear hats, cover up and play in the shade when they feel the kids have had too much sun but the kids have built a resilience. She said it's because of all of the cancer causing ingredients in sun cream, if they have to use sun cream they use a Zinc based one.

I was really shocked by this but she later posted to say how much support she'd had and the story has been shared online and there are lots of comments saying they agree and they don't use sun cream on their kids either.

I was under the impression that it's not just burning that does damage to the skin, it's being unprotected in the sun and the skin can still be damaged without being burnt.

Have I been living under a rock and everyone else thinks sun cream is poisoning us or is this a random theory people are running with?

If they're covered up wearing a hat and playing in the shade, then where is the problem

They’re not. They’re out playing and swimming in bikinis and swimming trunks, on the beach and in the sea in the blazing sun in Mallorca atm. She takes them in over lunchtime. They don’t even have hats or UV swimsuits on. It’s so bloody irresponsible, indefensible and downright dangerous.

THIS is exactly why I don't have any social media. People are idiots and they believe anything they read online. Noone does their research anymore. It used to make me so angry some of the absolute shit I would read. I thought why the fuck am I doing this to myself and I deleted it all. I don't have to see what people have for their tea😴, I don't get updated with strava runs or gym posts it is absolute bliss and I wish I'd done it sooner.

If you can't listen to the doctors, professsors, other experts and those who have suffered melanoma then listen to someone from the southern hemisphere where sunscreen use has been drilled into us since birth.... ALWAYS USE SUNSCREEN. And all year round.

She is thick as two planks, can't think critically and is being irresponsible by touting that utter crap and putting people, kids, in danger.

To reiterate, if a child has sunburn once it increases their chances of skin cancer by 50% in adulthood. Getting sunburned once every two years as an adult triples your risk of skin cancer. These facts come from researchers, experts, people who know their shit. Never get medical advice from a fucking so called celeb. Proper medical, researched, peer reviewed expert information is widely available online. People should just read it.

And fyi, sunscreen does not cause skin cancer. Dumbest thing I ever read by one of the dumbest people on the planet. She's embarrassing herself.

Sunshine has its benefits... Creating natural vitamin d in the body mood regulation, and sunscreen blocks that. However to really reap those benefits and reduce risk it's morning sun before 9am that research shows is good for us. Midday heat ( the really hot temps) are harmful and the harm outweighs the benefits, before the days of sunscreen cultures in the sun, you would see that was either time for a nap or indoors time, and then out in the evening again. Some cultures still harbour this. However I'm allergic to sunscreen and also sun exposure and I have no choice but to shelter from the sun.

Sunshine has its benefits... Creating natural vitamin d in the body mood regulation, and sunscreen blocks that. However to really reap those benefits and reduce risk it's morning sun before 9am that research shows is good for us. Midday heat ( the really hot temps) are harmful and the harm outweighs the benefits, before the days of sunscreen cultures in the sun, you would see that was either time for a nap or indoors time, and then out in the evening again. Some cultures still harbour this. However I'm allergic to sunscreen and also sun exposure and I have no choice but to shelter from the sun.

As someone who has lost someone to what started as skin cancer and have seen my grandfather had his ear removed due to skin cancer, she’s a bloody idiot. This is a perfect example of why influencer culture is toxic and why you should only ever take advice from someone properly qualified to give it!

She also said women shouldn’t get mammograms because mammograms cause cancer, so I wouldn’t pay attention to a word she says

I didn’t say sunscreens cause cancer - I use them religiously myself. I don’t want to derail this thread because I agree with the majority of posters that this woman is off her rocker.

however, I do think it’s worth highlighting that there IS evidence that certain ingredients used in sunscreens are potentially harmful and this is my point. I think people should aware of this so they can make their own choices.

as an example, there is evidence that retinyl palmitate (found in some sunscreens sold in the UK) speeds up the development of tumours when applied in sunlight. Yes the risk may be low but if I know the risks then I can choose to avoid this ingredient if I can.

And it’s not just about cancer - there are lots of other dodgy ingredients which are potential hormone disruptors, not advised for pregnant women etc.

again - I think people should be sensible and use sunscreen. However, my original point was that not all sunscreens are created equal and I stand by that. I also agree with your point that the best sunscreen is the one people are happy to use - I just think it’s good for everyone to consider what they put in and on their bodies and make an informed decision to the best of their budget and ability.

evidently the risk of skin cancer from sun exposure + not applying suncream will be significantly higher than wearing sunscreen with a potentially carcinogenic ingredient.

Oh god, isn't she the one who said she cured her Crohn's disease by 'natural healing'? As someone with the same condition, I know that Crohn's often goes into lengthy remissions, and that dietary adjustments can help some people, but it isn't cured, and certainly not by 'natural healing'. I wouldn't trust her on anything medical!

I bet she uses moisturiser, serums and makeup that contains spf

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/comment-scroll-watch-burn-sunscreen-misinformation-and-its-realworld-damage

The same influencer shoved a load of Botox in her face 😂

I think what some of what she’s said is valid, like the stuff around avoiding peak sun, covering skin where possible. My kids wear uv rash tops in the pools on holiday rather than sunscreen on their arms/torso because I think covering the skin in clothing is probably more effective than covering it in sun cream & with a cream you can miss bits, rash tops don’t. However there will always be bits you cannot protect and that’s where sunscreen has its place. Also I think maybe we put on factor 50 and think it’s ok to be out in the sun all day when actually we should take a break from it & sunscreen can give a bit of a false sense of security. I think as long as you aren’t exposing yourself/your children unnecessarily your fine, whether you do it via sunscreen/tops/breaks from the sun.

This might be useful. Everything has a context and context matters www.instagram.com/reel/DMu0ftgPk9g/?igsh=Nm4wczRyNnlva3Vl

Just use zinc oxide sun cream if you don’t like the chemical ones. We use Badger, it’s lovely.