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Preparing for mums death she's 59 and drinks excessively - I can't go down with her

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amistilltheproblem · 29/07/2025 10:05

Morbid subject sorry and it's long!

How do I start preparing and protecting myself for my mothers death? I need to protect my own MH and sobriety.

It is a long story I'll try give the highlights. I am in therapy and finally starting to see her addiction was not my fault and how she has treated me I owe her very little. I have posted on here before so if it seems familiar it was me!

I was born. At 6 weeks she gave me to her parents and stayed living in a city 300 miles away. 1yr she took me back. 2.5yrs sent me back to grandparents. My dad left for good. Nice parents but also drank too much but still not too bad, although the raising of the younger sibling was left to the older ones. I have aunts who are very close in age to me so I grew up confused about who my parents/ siblings were. I'd be a part of thr family but not a full part. (Asked to step out of pics etc). I was bullied about no parents wanting me in school.

Mum would visit 2/3 times a year. I was always so happy to see her. But immediately counting down to when she would leave again as I was worried about it. She would say can't you just enjoy that I am here, it was expensive to come visit you, and look what I have brought you. I would visit her for a few weeks in summer. She lived with a man.

Moved to them age 12. She drank and got drunk every night. He drank too much too. She drank alone, he drank alone. I eat alone. Then was used as a go between. She started giving me alcohol aged 13. He criticised my looks, weight (you're not really going to eat all that are you), starting taking me to pubs when I was 15 and was sort of proud when men would try chat me up and say 'the could never afford me' or don't try drink with her you won't keep up, I used to be proud of that, now I'm ashamed. Or he would call me a little slut if I did have a boyfriend.

There was a lot of control, some S.A. ,emotion abuse, some physical, neglect. My mother also knew how to pull on my heart strings and still does. She would say, why did I let her drink so much. why did I let her eat so much, I need to help her start her diet so that she loses weight. I did used to try and stop her but it didn't work. It was my fault things were the way they were. If I had not been born her life would have been better, she would have had a real family etc. I didn't know it wasn't normal for your mum to be so drunk she sometimes pisses herself and fell asleep on a chair in the kitchen

I started going to night clubs aged 14ish and meeting older men. Which lead to further things I now know were abuse. E.g. sex with men in their 30s.

She is living alone now. I visit when I can but I live a few hours away and have 2 young children. She has serious health issues from alcohol. She had severe acute pancreatitis resulting in diabetes. She spent 3 weeks in ICU still drank after. Now is developing Parkinson disease .

She won't stop. But I worked so so hard for my sobriety. I have been working on it 6 years. Sober for most of it but some short slips. I was down with her a few days ago. I knew she had been drinking a lot. My aunt confirmed it. I could also smell it the second I walked into her house. Her hands were shaking violently. I got her a dr appointment that day. He gave her antibiotics and said she had a high temp. She didn't say anything about having been black out drunk 2 nights prior.

I feel such guilt and shame that I am not doing more. Over the years at different point I've run myself down trying to get her to see but she won't.

I started counselling last year and it has started to change my outlook but its still so hard not to see my mothers well being as my responsibility.

She is 59. I think she will be lucky to be here next year.

Am I very callous to even be thinking about what I need to do?

I am in therapy I have been since last November I would love to find a group of people who had a similar experience in life

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ItWasTheSaddestOfTimes · 29/07/2025 10:40

My mother died from alcohol at 65. She'd had various goes at rehab and all of those involved in her medical care were aware she was drinking, still, even when she lied to them. And she lied to everyone. When she finally died I felt nothing but relief, I'd done all the grieving and anger stuff beforehand.

There was nothing me or anyone could have done to improve her life - the only person to make that change would have been her, and sometimes she couldn't but mostly she wouldn't.

Practical stuff-

  • Would she consider giving you POA over her finances or health decisions?
  • Do you know who her GP is? Is she seeing any other HCP?
  • Do her neighbours (or GP/friends) have your contact details?
  • Do you have any idea where her paperwork re rent agreement/mortgage, bank accounts are?
  • Does she have a phone book with relatives contacts in?
  • Any idea about funeral wishes? A will?

If you don't know, don't worry. The old adage about not putting yourself on fire to keep others warm applies. You are merely an observer in her life and it's not your responsibility to attempt to control her drinking.

mindutopia · 29/07/2025 10:47

You put yourself and your sobriety first is what you do. My mum is not an alcoholic, but we are NC for reasons related to sexual abuse and her not protecting me or my children. I am 2+ years sober.

When she gets in touch, a couple times a year, is the only time I contemplate pressing the F it button and drinking.

I have come to accept that she is not going to change. She’s going to die holding onto the same fictions she always did about her life and about me. Nothing I do is going to change that. But it will matter a lot to the people around me if I fall apart and am unwell. So the best thing I can do is put me first. She made her bed. She has no family around to care for her in old age (she’s 75) because either she is NC with them or they are NC with her. 🤷🏻‍♀️

But the cycle stops with me. There are only two spots on the life raft. I can save myself and I can save her or my children. They didn’t cause this mess, so I know who I’m saving.

Belladog1 · 29/07/2025 11:01

You have to look after yourself OP.

I was married to an alcoholic. Actually, I still am as I haven't got around to divorcing him yet. I finally left him after I realised he loved vodka more than he loved me. Since leaving him (we still talk occasionally) I have found out that he is still drinking loads and he no longer goes to the GP for the meds he was on, namely the fact that his blood pressure was sky high. He just stopped taking the tablets.

I realise that he is a ticking time bomb, but, after 33yrs of looking after him ... and I truly did look after him, I had to start looking after myself and my mental health.

I worry about him constantly, but occasionally you have to take a step back and think about number one, and as you have children, they are your priority.

KateMiskin · 29/07/2025 11:02

Oh my god! What a terrible fucking mom! You owe her nothing.

Confuuzed · 29/07/2025 11:04

I honestly think you should walk away from her and never look back. You and your children deserve every ounce of energy she's currently stealing from you.

Don't get power of attorney over her affairs. She's a vile human being.

KateMiskin · 29/07/2025 11:06

I am very close to my mum so am all for family ties. But in this case, focus on your children and your own recovery. So sorry for what you endured.

herbalteabag · 29/07/2025 11:09

You should not feel guilty about not doing more, in fact you should distance yourself mentally and physically for your own protection. She will probably not be able to change no matter what you do, there isn't anything you can do to make her better and you've already suffered throughout your life because of her. Just focus on your children and live every day for them and you.

Catherine3436 · 29/07/2025 11:09

Confuuzed · 29/07/2025 11:04

I honestly think you should walk away from her and never look back. You and your children deserve every ounce of energy she's currently stealing from you.

Don't get power of attorney over her affairs. She's a vile human being.

This.
cut and run. You owe her NOTHING.

MeetTheGrahams · 29/07/2025 11:12

In therapy, you need to look at attachment theory and understand the invisible thread that stops you closing the door on her. By understanding that you were an innocent victim of adverse childhood experiences will make you realise you are a survivor and owe her nothing. Do your grieving while she is alive and later you will feel relief it is over

Skibber · 29/07/2025 11:13

You owe your children your continued sobriety.
Your mother? Nothing at all.
Cease contact if necessary.
Keep going.

bigboykitty · 29/07/2025 11:14

Have you been to AlAnon, @amistilltheproblem ? I really would recommend them for learning about looking after yourself. I echo comments that you owe your mum absolutely nothing. I'm very glad you're in therapy. Your mum is still making the same choices. Please do less, not more

bigboykitty · 29/07/2025 11:15

Have you been to AlAnon, @amistilltheproblem ? I really would recommend them for learning about looking after yourself. I echo comments that you owe your mum absolutely nothing. I'm very glad you're in therapy. Your mum is still making the same choices. Please do less, not more

GovernorClose · 29/07/2025 11:18

Had a VERY similar experience so can totally sympathise

My mum had me aged 41 - drank throughout my childhood and ended up dying when I was 25 - she was 67

it was around the age of 9/10 I realised she had a drink problem and I felt deep down she was killing herself. She’d also get abusive in drink.

I was brought up in a family that looked ‘conventional’ from the outside - 2 parents etc but I often feel I’d have been better off in care !

I feel you OP - parents like this are a nightmare - I once said to someone about my mum - “she never loved me - she never even loved herself!”

Themomentsheknewshefkedup · 29/07/2025 11:19

Confuuzed · 29/07/2025 11:04

I honestly think you should walk away from her and never look back. You and your children deserve every ounce of energy she's currently stealing from you.

Don't get power of attorney over her affairs. She's a vile human being.

This.

you don’t diserve this OP but I feel like maybe you feel a sense of responsibility for her as she’s your mother, although a diabolical one. There is still a tie.

You don’t owe this woman anything and YOU (and your family) come first. I would work towards cutting her off if I’m being brutally honest. It will take time to find your peace but that is the least you deserve. I havnt had a partner as an alcohol so I am speaking from a different point of view however I have a sister who was and a brother who was an addict and I have watched it destroy their life and everyone else’s.

you deserve to have a happy life and move on from this awful woman. I think NC would be less painful in the long term. Greave the mum you never had and find your peace op.

sending you big hugs ❤️

nomas · 29/07/2025 11:20

It's not callous at all. She is lucky you still see her, you owe her nothing at all.

I think the process of grieving can start well before the actual death, to help us cope. Please do whatever you need to get through this.

babyproblems · 29/07/2025 11:23

Put yourself and your kids first op.
She is ill and will not recover from alcoholism… you have succeeded in so many ways and I want you to cling to the wins you have had; you can be a daughter - without being responsible for her care - and still put yourself and your children first. Think about what your red lines are - and stick to them. Protect yourself from her alcoholism and live your life for you. Well done for overcoming such awful things that you faced as a child and young person. You dont owe anyone anything; beyond your own children- your life is your own to live; and you don’t need to carry guilt for living your life as you feel is right for you. Best of luck xxxx

NimbleDreamer · 29/07/2025 11:23

I know it's very hard and I understand where you're coming from completely, but my advice would be to cut her out of your life and walk away completely. You have given her and continue to give her more of your time and energy than she deserves and I know she is your mum but she has made her choices and she is not your responsibility. Your own mental health and wellbeing and that of your children is far too precious to risk with keeping her in your life. I would ensure that she is on the radar of adult safeguarding and social services, and then I would walk away and never look back.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 29/07/2025 11:23

Look at it this way: an hour with her is an hour you could have woth your kids, feeling happy instead of sad.

You cam earn her love and her love is worth nothing anyway. You're chasing am empty prize.

Nothing you do with her adds value to your children's lives.

She exposed you to child sexual abuse. She is not a safe adult.

Even if your kids aren't involved woth her, they are getting the messaging that her behaviour is normal to still keep your family and I bey you come home sadder than when you left to see her.

Dump her. She's a negative drain and not remorseful in the slightest because she doesn't see anything wrong.

NewRoofNextDoor · 29/07/2025 11:24

Confuuzed · 29/07/2025 11:04

I honestly think you should walk away from her and never look back. You and your children deserve every ounce of energy she's currently stealing from you.

Don't get power of attorney over her affairs. She's a vile human being.

Quoting this again for you to see @amistilltheproblem because it nails it completely.

You owe her nothing.
She owes you plenty but you'll never get a millionth of it back.

Don't take on an ounce of control for her legally, financially etc. It's not your responsibility. It will exhaust and dispirit you. And she doesn't deserve any more of your time and effort.

Stay in therapy, work through it to give yourself and your children the best future.

The ultimate aim is to recognise that she has made choices over a long period of time which have impacted incredibly negatively on you, but that you can make better choices in your life - which includes cutting her off - and those choices are about keeping you and your children safe, functional and happy (three things she's never been, and has never provided for you.)

This may sound harsh, but many of us have been there, and know that whatever way you wrap it up, this is the final truth in these situations.

Take care of yourself.

SkinnyOatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 29/07/2025 11:29

Confuuzed · 29/07/2025 11:04

I honestly think you should walk away from her and never look back. You and your children deserve every ounce of energy she's currently stealing from you.

Don't get power of attorney over her affairs. She's a vile human being.

Absolutely this. Protect your peace and your own little family. You owe this woman nothing!

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/07/2025 11:39

@amistilltheproblem please put yourself and your children first. well done for avoiding most of the cycle for you and your children. she has chosen to live this life instead of being your loving and caring mother and grandmother to you children. you owe her nothing at all. you did nothing to deserve this and dont ever think that you did. you were a child with no guidance and knew no better. please continue with the counselling and keep yourself well.

Huggersunite · 29/07/2025 11:40

Skibber · 29/07/2025 11:13

You owe your children your continued sobriety.
Your mother? Nothing at all.
Cease contact if necessary.
Keep going.

This is so important to focus on. DH and I have very dysfunctional backgrounds. I keep reminding him that we only have so much time and energy in life. We can waste that time focussing on trying to fix a dysfunctional group of people from our past who have no concept of their own dysfunctional dynamics or we can use our time and energy on our own beautiful children and keep ourselves available for relationships with them.

medianewbie · 29/07/2025 11:40

OP you have had some really good advice so far.
I'd just like to add (when my own 'mother' died I thought I had done my grieving years before - good therapy re CSA & much more) But I was surprised how hard I found it. There is something about the finality re any possible improvement in relationship that death brings. I'd detatch as much as you can & be prepared to arrange some support when she does die in case it is more complicated than just 'relief' (I felt that too - I think I felt 'everything' tbh)

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/07/2025 11:42

It is an awful worry to carry, it may not end for many years or improve on any way.
Echoing others AA family members is an absolute lifesaver for many, it'll help you stop contact without the guilt attachment.
You can join a meeting on zoom.

amistilltheproblem · 29/07/2025 12:06

Thank you all for replying to me. I am just reading through it all.

I have already started to cut ties. She used to phone me every day but I have it down to about 3 times a week now.

I have tried for years to help her to be in a more secure place, as she is currently renting and when she stops working she will not be able to afford the rent.

When I am in my home I can just sort of pretend she is fine down there. I can always tell when she has been drinking but I say that she is an adult who can make her own choices. But to see her so visibly sick from alcohol, unable to walk to the car was a bit upsetting. She wasn't at all drunk, and hadn't been drinking, this was the after affects. Her legs are so weak. She thinks everyone believes it is the other illnesses. But we all know it is alcohol.

If I am honest, I feel a bit validated that my family now see that I didn't lie all those years ago when I begged to move home after I was sent to live with her and that man. I know I was not their responsibility but they all thought I was being 'dramatic as usual'. I did used to throw tantrums when my mum would leave after her visits, they have video evidence which used to get trotted out every so often

@GovernorClose I'm sorry to hear that. From the outside my family wouldn't have looked fully normal especially when I lived with my GPs. But the story line there was my mum was away working. It was just accepted. I think most people just assumed my GPs were my parents. My GM was 42 ish when I was born.

They were well respected and liked in town. When I lived with my mum and him, I went to a naice school, had clean clothes, while I was far to skinny I always had access to food. I usually had pretty good results at school, when I tried! Sounds big headed but I was attractive too and seemed to have a nice life. With a 'cool' mum who let me stay out from after school on Friday until Sunday night.

The thing with my mum though is she will always be the victim. She never did a thing wrong in her life, it was all done to her. Or she didn't have any say in the way things went. But as I get older I just know that isn't true. If I ever say anything she doesn't like she just cries and I immediately fall back into 'fix her' mode.

A friend I have in recovery now said not in a million years would you look at me and think this was my life. She said I look like a 'yummy' mummy who has it all. A truly wonderful husband, two beautiful children, a nice enough house, a good professional job, not rich but not struggling either.

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