To think the RNLI are 100% in the right

[SanFranBear]

I've just seen this story on the BBC news homepage where the RNLI are being accused of acting as a taxi service for migrants trying to enter the UK on small boats from Europe.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8dejyg4l37o

The organisation and volunteers quite rightly have responded to say they make no apologies for saving lives at sea and that their work has no political motivation.

Damn straight - one of the volunteers further down the article explains the profound impact he feels of encountering people struggling in our waters.

It makes me wonder what critics of the service expect them to do - just sail away, leaving the people to die? Pick them up and cross the channel to dump them back 'where they came from'?

What is wrong with them? Where is their compassion? Regardless of your thoughts on immigration, this is so cold and inhuman....

Why would they be leaving rubbish everywhere? Don't they have access to bins? Oh yeah, in most asylum "hotels" they dont. All they have is a small bin in a room that was designed to be serviced daily and not at all suitable for day to day living.

What sort of damage is your neighbour's boyfriend's cousin's sister reporting @ByNeatPinkHare?

Ummmm, in most instances they ARE working. Your deliveroo takeaway? Your car washed? Did you not know?

Maybe, as a thank you, they can spend some of their weekly pocket money from the taxpayer on some bin bags and clean it up themselves?

The language used towards asylum seekers is disgustingly, the attempt to dehumanise and “other” then, is reminiscent of some of the most horrible regimes of the 20th Century.

The fact that Politicians are happy to use this langague, and citizens are happy to scrawl it across banners and stand in front of buildings, show an acceptance of behaviour that 10 years ago would have been shocking.

If you wish to support your local RNLI station, or a unit away from the English Channel, you can make a donation to that station. You can ask that it goes to say a radio, or for fuel or use as you think best at Seagull Bay station.

If of course you want to direct your donations to helping the units who are rescuing asylum seekers amongst others you can direct it these places specifically.

"Anyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi" version 9392927braaaaaaaaaaaaap 💨

It’s not the point to the legality though. And the majority are entitles anyway. It’s costing so much because, as with pretty much everything else, the Tories fucked it up.

No you weren’t. You were told t9 look beyond your own self interest.

What's al that got to do with allowing people to drown in the channel?

As I've said previously I volunteer with refugee charities and yes, I've seen hotels that have been 'turned over to them' (interesting choice of words by the way). Yes, they're appalling. Yes, they're often infested with vermin. The Lls refuse to do essential repairs. The ceilings are leaking, there is often no hot water, they're overcrowded. None of which is the fault of the people staying there.

The RNLI were fundraising in a local town centre quite recently. A young woman was manning the stall. A middle aged man started berating her about 'having a nerve, begging for money, when they are facilitating the invasion' .
The girl looked quite shocked at his stance. I waited for him to go and went and checked she was OK. She said it wasn't the first comment that day.
As someone who has sailed yachts I'm appreciative of their aims.
Unfortunately, weak politicians, unable to get to grips are causing RNLI problems as well as handing Farage and co perfect PR to gain support. Our MN bubble isn't replicated in RL. A lot of people are beginning to get bold in their views.

They get £9 a week.

The RNLI are absolute heroes. They are not political. They are there to protect all human life.

Everything. We can't afford to have unlimited, neverending liabilities. Even IF these people ever end up getting jobs, they're almost never (98%+) net contributors and never will be. They're net drains.

The UK can't afford to act as an international charity. Nor is the global jamboree of our benefits system sustainable anymore. Silly season is over for the UK. You can ignore reality but not the consequences of ignoring reality, and that is very much coming for Britain.

No, most aren’t given refugee status; it’s around 44%, and dropping due to more stringent checks on those claiming asylum. Some are offered other humanitarian protection, but they are not actually refugees, technically. The rest are generally refused but stay here anyway, and we pay for them one way or another.

I suspect it's more, since some are proven to have used public money to gamble. Either way, all meals, board and excursions paid for. They can pool their £9 and get some bin bags.

So something else Labour are doing to deal with the crisis then? It’s been the 80%s for a long time.

It is not illegal to enter the UK to claim asylum.

If I had £1 for every time this error has been pointed out on here, it'd be shedloads...

... and I'd donate it all to the RNLI so that they can continue to help people who are desperate enough to undertake such a hazardous journey.

They're never going to stop this until they remove the pull factors.

That would mean introducing long-overdue draconian policies: any illegal arrival deported to a third country immediately with a guarantee that they'll never be permitted asylum in the UK; all foreign nationals to pay at point of US for NHS access; similar rights (or lack of) to places like the UAE and Saudi Arabia in terms of citizenship and residency - essentially impossible if you're not born here etc etc. They need to make the UK an undesirable and unwelcoming place to move to.

Which third country would that be?

It’s not 44% with appeals and much of it is to do with the 2022 Act

I don't particularly care. Overseas territory, anywhere that'll agree to it. Makes no odds. Just get them a long way from here with the guarantee that they'll never be allowed in.

Crossings are up under Labour, that’s due to Starmer’s decisions.

What decisions?

Do you follow his policies on this?