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Photos of people on life support or dead when trying to run a race is too much

78 replies

ThatLemonFox · 28/07/2025 16:00

Hope I don't sound like a complete bitch, I have ran at least 1 charity run a year for the last 20 years, I'm not a natural runner, a bit big, but am always pleased with myself at the end of it especially if I manage to raise funds for a worthy charity.
However I hate running behind someone who has a pic of someone with tubes coming out of them or a picture of someone who died or look like they are just about to.
I know the runner might be going through some horrible stuff (although with some runs it's just that the charity route was the only way in).
But, are these images really necessary?

OP posts:
SouthernNights59 · 29/07/2025 04:45

Tia247 · 28/07/2025 19:11

I wouldn't want someone running round with a picture of me in that condition splashed across their tshirt so YANBU OP.

I agree. I wouldn't dream of putting a photo of a family member in that condition on a tee shirt, and would be furious if someone put my photo on one.

YANBU.

SouthernNights59 · 29/07/2025 04:48

dottiedodah · 28/07/2025 19:55

I think YABU .People who have lost someone in difficult circumstances need to share their loss.i am grateful to you for your sterling efforts. However without being rude its not all about you! I am immensely grateful to 2 ladies Laura and Miranda. Who between them raised 50k for ovarian cancer reasearch. In remission at the moment. 6 rounds of chemo and a hysterectomy for me.my friend has chemo resistant cancer .the ame treatment hasn't worked. Needing new drugs now.these are the people we should be concerned about!

It may not be all about OP, but she is the one doing her bit to raise funds so is entitled to voice her opinion. I have never in my life been shown a photo of someone in that condition, so I don't agree that people "need" to share their loss in that way. What's wrong with having the person's name on a tee shirt?

hhtddbkoygv · 29/07/2025 05:07

It doesn't have to be necessary. It's a choice which they can make. Focus on something else.

EternalLodga · 29/07/2025 05:14

So much aggression on this thread

wineosaurusrex · 29/07/2025 05:29

ThatLemonFox · 28/07/2025 18:18

I've raised over £100,000 for charity, was hoping to continue that as I get older. I am genuinely sorry about your loss, but is it really necessary to have these awful pictures on someone's t shirt? We have all (probably) been through grief and it's horrendous, but when you are trying to run, out of breath, not quite knowing what's ahead of you; do we really need this?!
Have you raised anything? If so, thanks for your opinion x

“Have you raised anything? If so, thanks for your opinion x”

YABVU for this passive aggressive comment.

TheyreLikeUsButRichAndThin · 29/07/2025 05:40

Rizzz · 28/07/2025 19:45

Yes but not as important as our charity hero OP.

Yes it does sound like OP thinks they’re the star - they’ve raised over £100,000 don’t you know! It’s meant to be charitable and altruistic OP, not for bragging rights!

spoonbillstretford · 29/07/2025 05:47

I've never seen this. Maybe choose races that are general and not for a specific charity or for raising money. You can raise money other ways or just make regular charity donations. I haven't asked anyone to sponsor me for a race in 20 odd years.

PollyBell · 29/07/2025 05:47

All this 'og we cant show bad things on the news, swear words cant be on tshirts, i cant be in the same place as something upsetting so it all should not happen' is not the answer

They chose to do it they are entitled to that choice, they are raising money i presume it is not for kicks

Minimili · 29/07/2025 05:50

This is such a sensitive issue and I can see it from both sides.

After watching both my parents and grandparents die and several miscarriages (one late) I have witnessed a lot of death.

I feel the same as a pp who finds it upsetting and triggering, but I also understand the feeling of wanting people to be aware of conditions (especially rare ones like one family member had) and any money raised for charity is always a good thing.
I also understand the feeling of unity when lots of people run together for charity, it’s a special place of understanding and where those pictures are properly SEEN and others can identify with experiences that a lot of people haven’t faced.

I spoke to my mum before she died about putting her face on a t shirt. She said she was happy with that and loved the idea of raising money but she wanted a picture where she was alive and vibrant and herself, a picture where people might think “she looks fun” or kind or whatever else you can see in the photograph of someone in a moment where they were living and not on the cusp of death or actually dead.

I would feel the same way if I was dying as I’m sure many others would, some people I can imagine would be happy to share any image as long as it builds awareness for a good cause.

Look at the vote on this, it’s split pretty equally (or was when I posted) there are no right or wrong answers as everyone has different experiences and trauma and some find it comforting and some find it triggering.

My sister didn’t listen to my mum, she posted photos on her Facebook of my mum in hospital (rare condition) put pictures on t shirts and made Tik Tok videos for “awareness”.
I don’t use any social media except mumsnet but a friend showed me the TikToks and I was so angry and it felt so disrespectful.

My sister has raised money for charity but using images that would have upset my mum and compromised her dignity. I feel the money raised and awareness of the cause is fantastic but it also seems incredibly disrespectful and virtue signalling.

I wish people on this thread would stop arguing and understand this high emotion is coming from a place of hurt from all sides, it sounds like OP has faced bereavement herself so it’s unfair to lash out because you don’t like her opinion. It’s fine to disagree with it but she’s not saying the pictures of people dead and dying are offending her, she’s actually saying they are upsetting her. I think people should see that as compassion and not coming from a place of censorship.

People who have lost babies and children young who don’t have photographs of them growing older to celebrate their lived lives still want their child recognised and a kind of proof they existed (I hope that doesn’t sound insensitive? It’s coming from personal experience) if it’s all you have then that’s all you can share.

I wish there was more understanding on both sides, personally I can’t look at the pictures of seriously ill, dead or dying people as I find it too traumatic. The pictures of healthy people smiling into a camera or being vibrant and alive make me equally as sad but it’s easier to face, it makes me curious about them and sad for the person honouring them and I always think how amazing it is that people touch and influence our lives even after they are gone.

I don’t think this thread was at all intended to be offensive and I find it sad that others question OP’s motives.

One final thought… wouldn’t it be nice for separate charity fundraisers and races for people who have lost children and babies? I’m not sure if there are but it sounds like something where people with shared experiences could raise money but also support each other and every single person would know just how the person with their picture on the t shirt is feeling and even when exhaustion hits that’s why they are running.

It would feel more like a crowd running together than an actual race.

Cinaferna · 29/07/2025 06:12

Overtake them or drop back.
Look elsewhere - at the sky, at someone's great running gear, at the path ahead, at the cheering crowd.
Remember there will be some runners who are obsessed by lean athletic bodies and will object to running behind heavily built part time runners like you, being just as unreasonably judgemental as you are of others.

Marmiteontoastgirlie · 29/07/2025 06:46

Ella31 · 29/07/2025 01:14

I am thank you. I've since had their baby sibling and she'll be joining us on athe annual memorial walk fundraiser in The autumn in her buggy and we'll be holding their pictures with us alongside many other bereaved parents. Thanks for your kind words.

I’m so sorry for the loss of your beautiful boys. I am so pleased for you that you have since grown your family and can continue to cherish their memory together.

TizerorFizz · 29/07/2025 06:53

I think it’s very sad to publicise something by upsetting photos. They should remain private. Don’t quite see what value there is in doing this. But I’m not a “look at me” person. I’d just try and avoid the mawkish runners. Everyone has happy pictures!

Viviennemary · 29/07/2025 06:59

I can see where OP is coming for none of us like to see people suffer even in photographs. When photos of children in Gaza suffering from severe malnutrition come on TV I want to switch channels. But it's reality and we need to face it.

TizerorFizz · 29/07/2025 07:01

@Viviennemary That’s the news though! Fair enough. But personal shocking photos in a charity race? Would not make me give any money. I’d just be happy to see a logo of the charity.

Viviennemary · 29/07/2025 07:07

TizerorFizz · 29/07/2025 07:01

@Viviennemary That’s the news though! Fair enough. But personal shocking photos in a charity race? Would not make me give any money. I’d just be happy to see a logo of the charity.

That is a fair point. So I m on the fence here. Which i'm not usually. I absolutely dont think people should be stopped from running with these photographs. So OP will just have to find something else to focus on.

greglet · 29/07/2025 07:09

@Minimili I think yours is a really reasoned, sensitive post, thank you.

mids2019 · 29/07/2025 07:18

I think running has become much more about the charity rather than the not of running and personal aceheivment. When the great North run was set up its intention was to engage a deprived community in a mass activity which would encourage local collective feeling, pride and promote well being. It was open to anyone no matter your financial situation with minimal entry cost.

now the only people who can enter are those who can run for a charity or have peers with enough money to fund a minimum charitable fund raising goal. This was not what mass participation running was intended for.

mids2019 · 29/07/2025 07:20

With the huge focus on the personal story in the London Marathon etc. We forget people have nuanced feelings about the public e expression of grief and when it is apporpriate. Charity is great and we must acknowledge the majority of us experience travesty but must running (maybe as opposed to other sports) be dominated by such things and does it detract from the simple our enjoyment of running?

Barrenfieldoffucks · 29/07/2025 07:29

wineosaurusrex · 29/07/2025 05:29

“Have you raised anything? If so, thanks for your opinion x”

YABVU for this passive aggressive comment.

Indeed. This post paints the OP in a far worse light than her first.

StMarie4me · 29/07/2025 07:35

Yes it’s necessary for those who have them. They don’t need to consider your lack of empathy or sensitivity before wearing them.

And you’re trying to guilt them by stating how much you’ve raised.

That’s awful.

QuaverQuanta · 29/07/2025 07:40

If you don't want to see pictures on the back of peoples shirts, you should just run faster shouldn't you?

And FTR I've done various endurance events (marathons, ultra marathons, ride London etc), also a fatty, def not an athlete, and raised £££££ for charities so I trust that makes my opinion worthy, your holiness 🙏

Mrsphilmiller · 29/07/2025 07:47

RepoTheGeriatricOpera · 28/07/2025 18:21

You're genuinely sorry for the loss of my child, but then go on to describe the only pictures I have of her as awful?

Maybe work on your abhorrent attitude before doing more charity work.

I don’t agree with OP but I think what she means is that other people/runners are not going to be aware that those are the only photos you have of your loved one. Some people don’t like viewing distressing images.

mids2019 · 29/07/2025 07:54

It's for t a point where you feel you are almost scrooge to not run for a charity for a large sporting event and somehow your participation is less worthy because you have not donated to charity. Personally I think there is a need to reset the balance.

The big runs are now used by charities as money spinners and the running itself has become a something of a side event. There used to a sense of personal achievement and life goal setting to the fore which has now gradually dimisnshed. It's not about your time but about money raised.

Mewling · 29/07/2025 09:46

My comment was deleted for using a swear, but I stand by the sentiment - OPs second comment about the amount she’d raised made her sound like a glory-hound. Just because she doesn’t like something doesn’t mean it shouldn’t happen, irrespective of the amount she’s raised (which we only have her word for, btw).

PerfectTuesday · 29/07/2025 10:24

Mewling · 29/07/2025 09:46

My comment was deleted for using a swear, but I stand by the sentiment - OPs second comment about the amount she’d raised made her sound like a glory-hound. Just because she doesn’t like something doesn’t mean it shouldn’t happen, irrespective of the amount she’s raised (which we only have her word for, btw).

I doubt it was deleted for swearing! You can swear on Mumsnet. It was probably deemed a personal attack.