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AIBU to say men who believe this are sexist pricks

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Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 27/07/2025 00:26

Men who refuse to watch the euro finals tomorrow as it’s women’s football - so what’s the point and refuse to watch, and say this in front of they wives and daughters are misogynistic pricks and their wives and daughters deserve so much better?

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Mandoidi · 27/07/2025 09:52

I've watched almost all of this tournament and really enjoyed it. DH too. We bought the sticker book for DS4.
My mum and dad have watched all of England's games.
Today they are coming over and we are having a roast and then watching the game together.

We are enjoying it for what it is, not looking for reasons to compare it or put it down.

The grit and spirit the lionesses has shown has been truly impressive. Not to mention their composure when faced with delaying tactics.

There is a determination and togetherness about this team that I am enjoying very much. I think it is a display of sport (sport in all of the following meanings- the technical skill, ability, competitiveness and fairmindedness) that is well worth watching and celebrating.

And if you have pre-conceived ideas and have chosen not to watch this tournament then you wouldn't know that.

x2boys · 27/07/2025 09:58

queenMab99 · 27/07/2025 09:27

I don't watch any sport, tennis, football, snooker, motor racing, none of it. I am just not interested, and find it boring, but I don't rant on about it and complain, because I realise that other people like it. It really annoys me, that men are complaining and moaning on radio and social media, about women's football, because 'it isn't the same as mens' one man said that fans should 'have their own channel, because we don't want to watch it!'
It is just blatant misogyny, and they should just fuck off!
I don't know how any woman can live with a man like that.

Lots of women are too....

Helpmeplease2025 · 27/07/2025 10:01

Love football, hate women’s football. I won’t be watching it. Good luck to them, but I have no interest.

Halfquarterbag · 27/07/2025 10:03

I watched a few minutes of embarrassing top level women’s football once.

It’s bound to improve. I’ll check in again sometime.

In the meantime, women should play football if they want and those who want to watch them should do so.

taxidriver · 27/07/2025 10:05

i must confess i dont tend to watch women's tennis, unless it is a name i recognise, a british person, although that makes me nervous.
this is the final, i will watch, and support england

Goldenbear · 27/07/2025 10:06

Katemax82 · 27/07/2025 09:46

I dont think a man should have to watch dimensions football if they dont want to..its not sexist.

What's 'dimensions football'?

Onleemoi · 27/07/2025 10:09

League 2 is different to the premier league. We don’t have to listen to men (or women) spouting off about the league 2 play offs being on telly because the quality is shit. If you don’t like it, don’t bloody watch. No need to throw toys out of pram about it.

Neemie · 27/07/2025 10:12

The FA didn’t lift the ban on women’s football being played on professional grounds and FA affiliated club pitches until 1971. This attitude is the legacy of that. It has taken a while for women’s football to get back up and running. My son and most of his friends will probably watch the match but there is zero fan base from my generation as women’s football hadn’t got going when I was young.

Goldenbear · 27/07/2025 10:12

SomethingFun · 27/07/2025 08:59

As we all should know from the last few years on mn men have a physical advantage over women in the vast majority of sports. This doesn’t mean women’s sport is worthless because of the physical differences between men and women. I despair of the cultural soup we live in that parrots that women’s football is like Sunday 5 a side. Listen to yourselves. It’s embarrassing.

Who knows what women’s football would be like if countless millions were spent on it like the men’s. If the FA hadn’t banned women from playing (because the women’s football was more popular than the men’s). If women were taken genuinely seriously in any public sphere that isn’t looking sexy, having babies and caring for others.

I feel so inspired watching women play football. I wish I’d seen more women play sport when I was younger as I might have thought it was for me and not just for men.

Why can't women play with men, is it truly about strength or is it an FA thing. At DD's school she is still playing football with the boys at 14, she doesn't like playing football at all but they are still mixed. Equally, I watched that celebrity charity match and that was mixed. I think many perceptions of women's football are due to lack of investment but if it was mixed then maybe not. If it really is physical differences so be it but throughout school life I think it seems far more about cultural practices.

Djmaggie · 27/07/2025 10:12

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SilverHammer · 27/07/2025 10:13

For some reason some men seemed to feel threatened by women's football. It really says a lot about them and their insecurities.

GinToBegin · 27/07/2025 10:14

My uncle is a huge football fan, and knows the game pretty well. He loathes women’s football with a passion. Also, he is a prick. I’m not sure the two are connected; he’s never struck me as sexist generally, but he’s overbearing, opinionated, quick to temper and a colossal prick overall.

We’ve been NC since 2022, so I’ve can’t vouch for his feelings on these Euros, but strongly suspect he’ll have spent the whole tournament in a state of belligerent exasperation. Good.

Djmaggie · 27/07/2025 10:14

YABU. I’m female and a big football fan. I don’t watch women’s football. It’s like watching a different game, they are miles behind in terms of quality and while I wish them well, I’m not interested in watching it.

frozendaisy · 27/07/2025 10:15

GinToBegin · 27/07/2025 10:14

My uncle is a huge football fan, and knows the game pretty well. He loathes women’s football with a passion. Also, he is a prick. I’m not sure the two are connected; he’s never struck me as sexist generally, but he’s overbearing, opinionated, quick to temper and a colossal prick overall.

We’ve been NC since 2022, so I’ve can’t vouch for his feelings on these Euros, but strongly suspect he’ll have spent the whole tournament in a state of belligerent exasperation. Good.

😂

Abhannmor · 27/07/2025 10:17

💯. Though most men I know are impressed with the skill levels and , especially, the lack of fouling , play acting and other nonsense that plagues the mens game.

Cosycover · 27/07/2025 10:17

Nah you're reaching. Womens football just simply isn't good football. Totally different level. My husband watches the premier league but wouldn't watch the 3rd division. Same thing.

HerewardtheSleepy · 27/07/2025 10:17

As a bloke, I agree.
I've seen the Lionesses play better games than the England men's team ever have (& as a boy I saw the 1966 World Cup win)!

ZoggyStirdust · 27/07/2025 10:19

Velmy · 27/07/2025 02:16

I'm not a football fan at all, but enjoy sport in general and will watch the occasional big game, World Cup, etc.

Even I can recognize that the difference in levels between the men and women's game is so vast, it might as well be a different sport.

Let's be honest, in terms of elite sport, the level of women's international football is absolute trash in comparison to the men's game. I can completely understand why a football fan who doesn't specifically follow women's football would not want to watch the game tomorrow because it won't be very good.

I say this as a former competitive athlete in a male dominated sport. As a spectator, I enjoy the men's competition in my sport much more, because with the odd exception, the levels are much higher. This will of course change over time, as it is currently doing in football.

If a man doesn't want to watch the game tomorrow because "Birds should be in the kitchen", that's scumbag behavior. If they don't want to watch it because the national team plays to the level of a hungover Sunday league team, that's fine.

I see this a lot, that the standard isn’t as good.

lower league men’s teams aren’t at premier league standard but their fans don’t mind. You won’t see fans of Accrington Stanley refusing to watch because the team isn’t as good as Liverpool.

StMarie4me · 27/07/2025 10:20

You’re a charm aren’t you @BruisedNeckMeat

Hope you don’t have daughters.

”Well, dear, we’ll never be as GOOD as men, now will we? Cos we’re just not the SAME”.

FFs.

Tollington · 27/07/2025 10:21

I only watch the premier league team that I support. I have no interest in watching either the men’s or women’s England team

northernballer · 27/07/2025 10:22

Abhannmor · 27/07/2025 10:17

💯. Though most men I know are impressed with the skill levels and , especially, the lack of fouling , play acting and other nonsense that plagues the mens game.

Same, even my late FIL who on a good day was a sexist prick watched and enjoyed the women's game. I find it more of an attitude with the 30/40 year old men tbh.

JockTamsonsBairns · 27/07/2025 10:22

Buffypaws · 27/07/2025 07:47

I really like the women’s actually. I went to the quarter finals. The atmosphere is so much nicer than the men’s. After the Sweden game, three swedes came and made friends with us at the bar. We could drink in the stadiums too as no fighting. It’s just a good time. And you still get to support your country.

The atmosphere is so much nicer than the men's.

Never seen the Tartan Army in Europe then?

BlueandPinkSwan · 27/07/2025 10:24

pourmeadrinkpls · 27/07/2025 01:54

Thick too if they haven't realised they'll get to see attractive women in shorts AND football at the same time. You'd have to be extra sexist to miss that. Cutting off your nose to spite your face!

I want them to win but won't be watching because I'm not interested in football.
But if I did watch and refused to watch the men playing, does that make me the female equivalant of a sexist twat Polly
What a load of sexist crap about 'attractive women in shorts'.

Steph117 · 27/07/2025 10:24

Goldenbear · 27/07/2025 10:12

Why can't women play with men, is it truly about strength or is it an FA thing. At DD's school she is still playing football with the boys at 14, she doesn't like playing football at all but they are still mixed. Equally, I watched that celebrity charity match and that was mixed. I think many perceptions of women's football are due to lack of investment but if it was mixed then maybe not. If it really is physical differences so be it but throughout school life I think it seems far more about cultural practices.

If women and men played together in adult teams not a single woman would ever play a professional game. The physical difference is too much to overcome.

The women need their own game if they want to play at any recognised level.

Steph117 · 27/07/2025 10:25

ZoggyStirdust · 27/07/2025 10:19

I see this a lot, that the standard isn’t as good.

lower league men’s teams aren’t at premier league standard but their fans don’t mind. You won’t see fans of Accrington Stanley refusing to watch because the team isn’t as good as Liverpool.

The gap between Accrington Stanley and Liverpool is nowhere near as big as that between Accrington Stanley and England’s women’s team.