Anyone applied for an Irish passport as a descedent recently?

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My passport has expired and I was thinking of getting an Irish one as my dad is from Ireland. I have looked on line and it looks really complicated and I just wanted to know if anyone has actually done it and is it that bad? I also want to get my daughter one and was hoping she could just get one if I do or do I have to go down the whole FBR route?

You are asked to send off passport but you can send a colour photocopy instead as long as it has a "I certify this is true and accurate copy of the UK passport I have seen signed by your witness and dated". Original not required (am in process right now)

DM is Irish (and born on the island of Ireland) so I am an Irish citizen even though I was born in the UK. I can apply directly for an Irish passport but have yet to do so.

I have gone through the process of getting DC on the Foreign Births Registry which now makes them Irish citizens. We will apply for Irish passports when they are old enough to travel independently. A fair bit of paperwork and expensive, and took c.10 months from submission to getting the certificate.

Unlike a PP has said, the DC could get an Irish passport even though I have not got one and did not have one before they were born. Their entitlement is via my DM, their grandmother, so yes via me but me having an Irish passport is not a prerequisite for them to get one. If/when DC get an Irish passport, it stops there, they cannot pass it down to any subsequent offspring.

I'm an academic and one of my students asked me to sign her form, her dad was born in Ireland so for her it was easy.
I discovered that my grandfather was born there (I always thought it was after they came to the UK - Anglo Irish family). Annoying as he died in 2007 but at the time my DF was born nobody would have thought we'd do stupid things like join an advantageous customs union and then leave it and that there might be some point in having an Irish passport. I don't suppose there's a get around for "grandparent not psychic".

They can. They are on the FBR before their children are born. They can pass that down

I am not sure of your point? Your grandparents dont have to be alive for you be approved?

Exactly. DP’s Irish grandparents had passed away when they applied for their Irish passport via heritage.

Even if they have lived in England for most of their life ?
My Dad was born and lived in Ireland untill he wss 11 he moved with his family to England at 11 and has lived here ever since he's 83 now ,he has an Irish birth certificate and a British passport.

Yep. As your dad was born in Ireland you can apply for a passport. Unless he renounced his citizenship at any point which would be very unusual.

Your children would need to apply to the FBR as their Irish citizen parent was not born in Ireland.

if they do that before they have children then their children would be born to an Irish citizen not born on Ireland, would need to apply to the FBR, and so on.

pp’s suggestion that it would end with her kids is incorrect.

You’re absolutely right I forgot there was the option to photocopy all the pages. It wasn’t convenient for me to do that at the time.

There’s something about people wanting an Irish passport for “practical” reasons that really doesn’t sit easy with me. It’s been mentioned upthread about lots of people clamouring to apply in the wake of Brexit, do none of you feel a bit off that you’re claiming citizenship/passports for a country many of you have no real attachment too outside of a parent or grandparent being born here? Genuine question, because it all seems a bit mercenary to me.

I'm irish and living in Ireland so it doesn't apply to me. But if my kids had been deprived of all the opportunities that my sister's kids in London now are, I would be doing anything I could to get them back. Brexit has made it much harder for them to travel, work, study or live in the EU. There are zero downsides to them having an Irish passport instead of a UK one.

I know, and I do empathise with parents wanting to do everything they can to secure opportunities for their children. If it came to it, I can’t say that I wouldn’t do the same in the same circumstances.
Theres just nothing anywhere in this thread that I’m getting a vibe of people considering themselves actually Irish or feeling profoundly bound to their Irish heritage and I guess it’s made me a bit sad about it all.

Agreed @BelfastBardand I see it in my everyday life living in NI. Those applying for Irish passports who previously wouldn’t have bothered until it was more convenient for them to have one. I get it though, as PPs have said, I would give those opportunities to my children if I could. But Irish identity isn’t coming into the equation much, it seems.

I'm a different position that I'd like an Irish passport but unsure how to go about it. My paternal grandad was born in Ireland, but my dad is not on my birth certificate. Any idea what steps I need to take to get one?

Irish identity isn’t coming into the equation much, it seems.

Im glad that what I have is an EU passport that happens to be Irish. I want my children to consider themselves European. I want them to consider the freedom they have to move around a continent, to live with, be friends with and have relationships with others regardless of where they are from. I want Irishness to be a part of their identity, not their defining part. Reducing nationalism and the parochial fear of anyone that is different that we have here can only be a good thing.

As an aside, I d encourage everyone who has the right to get EU citizen this way to move arse. They already don't have sufficient housing in Ireland for the people there already, and what with a bit of anti-immigration sentiment, you ve got to watch out for this route being suspended. Across Europe, there's chat of tightening this up...I can't remember which countries exactly but ancestry rights to eu citizenship in places like Ireland, Germany, Italy Greece, it might become harder in the future. So get it going now.

Of course this is a legal immigration and most people don't even take it up and move there, but it's a question of public resourses. Yes get the application in pronto.

Growing up with irish parents, though born in England , i felt my irish heritage . Always supported Ireland at Sporting events and was most affronted when my uncle once said i wasn’t irish.

Getting an irish passport was always a bit more hassle admin wise so i stuck with my british one and then there was our membership of the EU which made it much less of sn issue.

I thought i was going to have the chance to work in the EU for a bit so applied recently.

Nationality for me has always been tricky. Never felt english really , generally supported Britain though at the Olympics. Ireland for everything else. Felt european until Brexit .

It's really easy. My hubby got one as his dad was Irish which was extremely straightforward and our three children got theirs too.

It's super easy to do.

I don't think you'll qualify unfortunately. My husband had to be an Irish citizen before our kids could apply. My grandfather was Irish but because my mother never took citizenship, I can't apply.

No, I dont feel any bit "off" for claiming by birthright

This is correct. As long as you are on before your children are born you are classified as an Irish Citizen and your children can be Irish citizen as long as they are registered as a foreign birth. The critical thing is if you are born to Irish parents in UK ensure you are registered before you have any children. If you are pregnant they speed it up because they know it's important to get on the register.

I sailed through in Budapest last year and left my other half in the significantly longer queue with his British passport! But generally I do find them about equal/the same queues. We have been living here 3+ years though so I understand he can now apply.

There’s a fb group Irish passport help and hints that’s pretty helpful.

Thats so rubbish of you, as a spouse or family member of an EU citizen, they are entitled to go through with you!