Malnourished starving children in Gaza

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The photos that appeared this morning on my news updates of mothers holding their children, dying of starvation and extreme malnutrition in Gaza have absolutely broken my heart. I am not particularly news focused, of course I’ve followed it all but this morning it has stopped me in my tracks and took my breath away. As a mother of a 3yo DS who is sleeping peacefully in his bedroom, whilst we have a fridge full of food downstairs and a life of peace, I feel so sorry that those poor mothers and children are living this hell so undeserved and also so so lucky we have the peace we do…
I don’t really know what the point of my post is; I suppose I’m screaming When Will This End inside and want to tell everyone to not take the freedom and peace we have for granted; use your right to vote and use your privilege to make informed choices that steer the world away from conflict towards peace…

Sending a handhold to all the mothers’ whose lives are not being lived in peace and whose children are suffering 🕊️💔

How do these people live with themselves? Do they really believe that is what their God represents?

Once you have dehumanized a group of people, you can justify to yourself any atrocities committed against them. It's been the same with every genocide.

I found it chilling how she literally hopes her son will kill children. Not even a thought for the psychological damage that does to a person. What kind of mother raises a son expecting him to be able to kill children?

Edit- important to note that she is not representative of most Israeli mothers. Hopefully her constituents will cause her to lose her seat the next election.

This is why I am so, so worried about the mood in the UK right now. Historically, viewing our fellow human beings as other or different has led to nothing but horror.

Just, despair.

Not an overly sweeping generalisation sadly, I wish it was 😢

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-08-03/ty-article/.premium/from-the-first-grade-to-the-grave-israelis-are-educated-to-dehumanize-palestinians/00000189-b817-d821-afdd-bb37927a0000

This is an article from Israeli left wing paper haaretz. "From the First Grade to the Grave, Israelis Are Taught to Dehumanize Palestinians"

Yet again my post has been deleted. I think someone reports all of my posts and hopes for the best . The just of my post was that historians and scholars will study this genocide in future years . The essay question will be something like this “ Discuss the political climate in which a genocide carried out against the Palestinian people was allowed to go largely unchecked “.

Couldn't agree more 😢

The Gaza envelope is a small area. Children evacuated from that area would have already been living under rocket fire for years before October 7th, whether directly impacted on October 7th or not. The chance of them knowing others in nearby kibbutzim who were affected is correspondingly high too.

I do believe it is an isolated incident, given the majority in Israel condemned the video and it was withdrawn.

I think it is possible to pull evidence and examples of radicalised and extreme language on both sides - but my point is why is this being generalised to dehumanise Israelis? Why are the voices for peace not being amplified?

From first hand experience (although I guess you could argue you can't extrapolate/ generalise from that either, just like you can't generalise from the extremist examples provided), I've personally certainly never seen or heard any of my children coming home from school here in Israel saying anything about being taught to hate or kill Palestinians and would be truly horrified if they did. I can only speak for my children's schools (they went to 4 separate institutions last year), but I don't believe they are out of the norm. They are state schools.

Please forgive me for not responding to your comments Lucky - I am just dipping in and out at the moment, and haven't time to properly look at the research paper you linked.

It is shameful that it’s been allowed to get to this. Genocide being reported day after day

The Isreali government constant denial is being supported by fewer and fewer people the government have damaged their credibility for their people for many years to come

Genocide being reported day after day

What on earth does this sentence even mean? Genocide is being reported? Reported by whom? Reported to who? How do you report genocide? It makes no sense

No worries @EllaDisenchanted I ought to log off anyway, I keep procrastinating on mumsnet and avoiding things I need to get done!

Makes sense to me.
More and more experts, human rights organisations (Israeli and foreign ) and politicians from democratic, western countries are reporting the Gaza war as a genocide or ethnic cleansing (which is a category of genocide per the legal definition)

You do know that fat people can still starve? It's not all about calories. It's also vitamins, minerals and protein that you don't get from broken down fat deposits. Even a morbidly obese person would starve to death if they didn't eat.
There are some absolutely disgusting opinions on this thread. I can't see how anyone can think this situation is ok. Israel are completely to blame. Saying it's fake because the parents aren't stick thin is a moronic thing to say

Now I know you're just stirring the pot 😂
Whilst I am happy to listen to a counter argument, Charlie Kirk is not a legitimate source of anything. It does provide an understanding that was lacking in this thread before that you'd put him up as an acceptable 'other side'.
Charlie " women should abandon careers and education to “submit to a godly man” and raise “more children than you can afford.” Kirk 😂
Charlie "white privilege is a myth and a racist lie" Kirk

Or is it a different Charlie KirK?

Yep they teach this in the UNRWA schools.

Proof? And I don't mean a Hamas source?

Source? (None Hamas based )

Just leaving this here. How on earth are the Israelis (who have a very similar mindset to westerners) meant to deal with this mindset, never mind live in peace next door to it x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1949856026947129671?t=_4uVLjuy0pTNn4ucxjzt2Q&s=19

100% THIS!

One of the most objective point of views I have read about the current situation in Gaza.

The whole conflict plays into the hands of the Hamas play book
‘Hate the nasty Jews’

The suffering of these people is horrific but I don't believe it is 100 % the responsibility of Israel and to think that it is is ignorant and lacks any critical thinking.

Yes you are right of course. And Mali and Myanmar and pretty much every other place at risk of famine today.

I don’t remember, when the Provisional IRA were carrying out their bombing campaign in Britain, British schoolchildren being taught that Irish people or Catholics want to kill them.

I haven't read the whole thread to preserve my mental health, so this may have already been mentioned..........in the last few days it has come out that two of the main pictures used were of children who had other serious medical conditions affecting food absorption. Osama al-Rakab was already evacuated by Israel in June and is now in hospital in Italy receiving the treatment he needs.

And the NY Times have quietly amended their articles to admit that Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, has a preexisting medical condition that impacts his appearance.

In the meantime however those images have gone around the world to cause hate.

And this happens every bloody time, a story comes out, everyone jumps to blame Israel, and a few days later it turns out that it wasn't the case after all, but the news has moved in and the damage is fine, which was the intention at the outset.

I have no doubt that there is hunger and the aid distribution blockages have to be resolved - containers of food have meanwhile gone off and been destroyed while the UN argued about not getting involved with GHF. Hopefully the airdrops that have started will help.

But it doesn't serve the people of Gaza to cry wolf. It just makes it hard to know what is truth and easy to dismiss things as 'just another fabrication to smear Israel and the Jews'.
Meanwhile Gazan's who protest against Hamas are being tortured and murdered by Hamas, there are plenty of reports of that but nobody complains about that!
Likewise with the Druze in Syria, those poor people are being massacred, and women and children kidnapped, and there is no outrage on Mumsnet because Israel can't be blamed (until they bomb to protect the Druze and then there are complaints).

Try watching the news.

I know it will be very challenging for you but stop being daft.

If personal abuse is all you have to counter me, then it’s not me being daft.