Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Son told not to smile for photo

71 replies

Notthisagain13 · 25/07/2025 08:11

My 5yo ds has got a really funny smile at the moment. It’s like he hasn’t quite learnt to smile and sort of oversmiles so scrunches up his face a bit. However it’s very cute and it’s his smile at the end of the day. It’s not like he’s pulling a hideous face, he’s like it in all his school photos, it’s just funny and sweet.

My mil and sil were taking some photos of the grandchildren and mil told ds to stop smiling for the photos.

She kept telling him don’t smile like that, and then just told him to stop smiling for the photos.

Aibu to think that she was being out of order?

OP posts:
BunnyLake · 25/07/2025 09:34

Notthisagain13 · 25/07/2025 08:25

Yes in hindsight, I should have spoken up.

Tbh there is a huge backstory with my in laws and much more than this, neither myself nor dh are very good at speaking up at the time, and when we do they always have to have the last word.

You’re going to have to toughen up (both of you) to make sure you have your kids backs! Never mind them having the last word, you have the last word!

SpiralSister · 25/07/2025 09:35

Just here for more about the ugly fish..😀

Amazing typo!

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/07/2025 09:37

My DB used to do a 'tortoise smile' where he'd just stretch his mouth instead of smiling. My DM had a whole mantelpiece full of school photos of him looking as though he were being tortured and they are amusing, but not particularly 'cute' to look back on. It would have been better for him and posterity if he hadn't been forced to smile.

Gives me something to tease him about sixty years on though. That and the haircut.

So I think it was out of order to tell your DS not to smile, OP, but you might look back on his 'cute' smiling attempts in thirty years time and wonder what he was up to.

Jennyathemall · 25/07/2025 09:38

Faceitprune · 25/07/2025 08:27

there is a huge backstory with my in laws and much more than this

yes, there generally is on mumsnet

Huge back story SHOCKER!!!!

Notthisagain13 · 25/07/2025 09:49

Jennyathemall · 25/07/2025 09:38

Huge back story SHOCKER!!!!

Don’t get it?

OP posts:
BunnyLake · 25/07/2025 10:45

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 25/07/2025 08:21

she was micromanaging a photo shoot in a bossy fashion wasn’t she,
however, if this is all you have to write on mn about, take a trophy because there are ugly fish to fry

This is probably one of the most surreal responses I’ve seen on MN. 😁

Butchyrestingface · 25/07/2025 11:17

BunnyLake · 25/07/2025 10:45

This is probably one of the most surreal responses I’ve seen on MN. 😁

Time for a name change, #UglyFishToFry?

BunnyLake · 25/07/2025 12:20

Butchyrestingface · 25/07/2025 11:17

Time for a name change, #UglyFishToFry?

It’s a great name 😁

Cutleryclaire · 25/07/2025 12:22

My eldest has something similar. We have a funny saying that we say in unison for a family photo. It’s mildly rude so guarantees a big genuine smile instead of the sinister grimace of a murderess.

BunnyLake · 25/07/2025 13:57

SpiralSister · 25/07/2025 09:35

Just here for more about the ugly fish..😀

Amazing typo!

What was the typo? (I think it might be my favourite post ever🤭)

Faceitprune · 25/07/2025 14:27

If your ds doesn’t see at least one of his parents advocating for him op, he will grow up as meek as your husband.

Faceitprune · 25/07/2025 14:28

Notthisagain13 · 25/07/2025 09:49

Don’t get it?

Because whenever there’s a similar thread about family relationships…. There’s always a back story

Seagoats · 26/07/2025 10:36

Awful women. Kids are super sensitive at that age.
That would have been red rag to a bull for me. Id have been ripping them to shreds about all their flaws

TheArtfulNavyDreamer · 26/07/2025 10:40

I frequently told my kid to stop smiling to try and get a decent photo of her 😂🤦‍♀️ she did say she didn’t know why her face did that in photos so was aware she had an odd smile thing going on.

Arrivederla · 26/07/2025 11:58

Seagoats · 26/07/2025 10:36

Awful women. Kids are super sensitive at that age.
That would have been red rag to a bull for me. Id have been ripping them to shreds about all their flaws

Oh that would have really helped 🙄

LadyQuackBeth · 26/07/2025 12:04

Almost every kid I know had the "cheeeeeeeeese," years for photos. It's cute looking back, more lively than a demure Mona Lisa style smile.

Tell DS you love his smile and stand up for him next time, but don't escalate it now or he'll think it's an even bigger deal.

HoppingPavlova · 26/07/2025 12:06

Just look at it as training for passports and licenses?

ThinWomansBrain · 26/07/2025 12:12

@Butchyrestingface baked rather than fried maybe😋

ThinWomansBrain · 26/07/2025 12:17

"I’d rather look back at his lovely beaming little face than know he was told not to smile."
so take your own photo - most kids probably have their photos taken dozens of times daily - hardly as if it's a once annually school photo.

HowLongWillTheDogBe · 26/07/2025 12:33

Mine went through this daft phase… used to open his mouth wide when his bigger teeth were coming through… hideous… but he grew out of it, thankfully!
You could use some of the school photos from that time to keep witches from the door!
I refused to buy one years set as they were so dreadful - do the photographers tell them to smile and just snap away, however bad it looks?

becausewecancan · 26/07/2025 12:34

I think it depends on how it was said (sharply or more diplomatically), tbh. It's not necessarily that awful to occasionally ask a child to tone down facial expressions for photos, but you can do it in a way that's more neutral or even positive, almost like you're directing a photo shoot. One of the benefits of digital cameras and phone cameras is that we can take a million pictures until we we a good one.

HowLongWillTheDogBe · 26/07/2025 12:35

Sorry, should have said DS was around 5-8 years old when he was doing this.

LittlleMy · 26/07/2025 13:12

becausewecancan · 26/07/2025 12:34

I think it depends on how it was said (sharply or more diplomatically), tbh. It's not necessarily that awful to occasionally ask a child to tone down facial expressions for photos, but you can do it in a way that's more neutral or even positive, almost like you're directing a photo shoot. One of the benefits of digital cameras and phone cameras is that we can take a million pictures until we we a good one.

Yes but OP said, Mil asked him to just stop smiling after not being happy with his initial expression. Also, why can’t people just let kids be kids?! Especially a 5 year old?! I think that’s part of the charm of seeing children growing up from their natural - sometimes photogenic angelic smiles - all the way down to the goofy and out there smiles! Then the inevitable self-conscious smiles we develop as young adults when we don’t like our crooked teeth or we have self image troubles right through to the confident tongue out or pouting many kids do as young adults.

Little kids can be quite sensitive and it would be so sad if a child internalised being asked to change (or worse as with OP stop the smile altogether) and then become nervous about ‘smiling correctly’ - heartbreaking! If it were my son, out of earshot, I’d be very clearly explaining to her this is not okay and to never do it again!

pinkstripeycat · 26/07/2025 13:16

Notthisagain13 · 25/07/2025 08:18

I don’t think she would have thought that he was bringing silly.

He doesn’t act silly, he’s very calm, quiet and placid.

I didn’t say that no, perhaps I should have but it all happened quite quickly. I didn’t really think I needed to explain because that’s just how he smiles.

Edited

As quickly as you say it happened I’d be quicker with “Don’t talk to him like that!”

Things like that don’t happen so fast that you can’t speak up for your child especially around family.

AmazingBouncingFerret · 26/07/2025 13:23

“Stand up beside the fireplace, take that look from off your face”

Ever since family photos were a thing (and probably when rich aristo’s were sitting for their paintings!) there’ll always be some member of the family telling another to pull their face straight. You either laugh along and crack on with your day and nobody will think of it again or you make a big deal about it, cause friction and cement the memory in your child’s mind forever more!