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To not meet my daughter's waster, manipulative boyfriend

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ManyBooksLittleTime · 23/07/2025 14:32

Up until now, my husband and I have refused to meet our daughter's boyfriend. There is nothing good to say about him. She is early twenties and he is fifteen years older, at least. Mumsnet was really helpful when he started dating her at 17.

She has a good job, pays all the rent and all the bills. She has rented a bigger flat to accommodate his THREE children when they stay alternate weekends. He does gaming . Nothing else. A total waster man. It makes me so angry. He has now convinced her he cannot work due to both his physical and mental health. WTF!

She once got him a job at a supermarket she worked at. The supermarket was burgled by an employee, it had to be one of 4 employees including him.He kept telling her that her till number was used. Luckily she wasn't working there that evening. Shortly after, he was no longer working there and she had been transferred to another store. I am really suspicious of this. Lots of other nasty rumours about him, but none that have proven to be true. He has had two jobs in four years lasting approx a month each

He doesn't stop her going out. She goes out regularly with friends, often over the weekends. I think this is so he can have the flat to himself. He will not take her out though and does not even go on walks with her outside the flat. She goes on her own. He will not even give her a fiver if she runs out of money.

My friends think that we should meet him to question him and make him squirm. My massive fear is her disowning us and us not being there if she needs us. What advice do you have for helping her to see that she is always broke because she has a massive parasitic burden around her neck?

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DiscoBob · 23/07/2025 17:44

He sounds awful, but it might be a case of keep your enemies closer.

If you end up making her withdraw into him even more it will make things worse.

By voicing strong negative views about him you will possibly alienate her further.

There's a slim chance this guy has turned his life around, and though he's not a successful person, he's her partner and she wants to be with him. Ultimately that is her choice.

The best thing I think is keep her close and do meet him, to try and see what he's really like. But you can't force her to stop seeing him.

Blueblell · 23/07/2025 17:46

Echoing others saying meet him, what you don’t want is for her to feel she has to defend him to you and thereby prolong the relationship. It will be difficult after this period of time but I think if you can act normally with him and don’t point out all his faults she will eventually see them for herself and you will be there to support her.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 23/07/2025 17:54

I would go the other way - invite yourself round, open curtains, lie back on the sofa chatting constantly- these things would annoy someone gaming in the living room all day. Be incredibly nice and cheerful but annoying - visit often, make yourself at home, do some hoovering and loud tidying. If she is out of money for food call over with some and stay and eat with them. Maybe if he gets angry at you coming round when you’re just “being nice” your daughter might start to see him as a lazy waste of space! I wouldn’t withdraw from her and hope she cops on - I would smother him with a mother who pops over every weekend!

Eeehbaheck · 23/07/2025 17:54

Put it this way- he would probably be happy if you did not meet him and visit her because then she wd be more isolated from you, which he could then use to his advantage.
So visit - be part of her life . This may also dilute his impact on her - her being one to one with him is what you don’t want.
you are not colluding but supporting yr daughter and claming your power to lessen his .
Also trust that the family values she has been brought up with will be inside her and they will come to the fore.

2catsandhappy · 23/07/2025 18:06

I might be being a bit dim, but why do you feel you should meet him? Has your dd asked you to @ManyBooksLittleTime
I am completely guessing here, but is the money thing being mentioned more because of the kids school holidays? Is your dd taking them out? Are they around more? Is she having to buy more supplies than usual ie food/loo roll/shampoo etc?
She sounds like a young woman in over her head and under mounting pressure.

He is a cocklodger and a user. Waste of space. I am being polite.

Keep those invitations going. Can you decorate a room in your house and just say, here is a room, any time, day or night, no questions my darling girl.

NewbieYou · 23/07/2025 18:12

I think she will eventually wake up to it all and realise she’s been taken for a ride. I only pray that it’s before they have a child together. No woman happily pays all the bills and housing for herself, a man and his 3 kids with nothing given in return without eventually hitting a wall and realising they’re being used.

Dery · 23/07/2025 18:13

Agree with most PPs - refusing to meet him is a mistake and does not help your DD. It pushes her towards him; it gives him grounds for isolating her from you; it makes her feel forced to decide between you and him etc etc. Don’t give him excuses to isolate her. Be as neutral and civil as you can be.

You might benefit from reading up on how to support loved ones who are in abusive/possibly abusive relationships. There’s a book called something like “Helping Her Break Free” which deals with this.

NewbieYou · 23/07/2025 18:14

But yes I would meet him. Better the devil you know etc. Be civil, polite. He sounds like he won’t have much interest in you all anyway so it’s likely your DD may see him being disrespectful or grumpy or uninterested in you both and she may find that unattractive.

yellowbelliedlilylivered · 23/07/2025 18:19

I was in a similar situation to your daughter for five years, and it was tricky. My parents ultimately were nice and included him, but calmly expressed some concerns early on so I know what they thought. The thing that made the difference was seeing the life I could have without him and what I was giving up staying. Having nice plans with friends, thinking about holiday/travel opportunities, having interesting and stimulating conversations, hearing about others' hobbies, that's what did it for me. I wonder if you could facilitate/suggest thing and/or mention what family friends are up to in a neutral way? Then maybe it could develop into 'DD, are there any holidays/hobbies/ambitions you're interested in?' I hope she realises soon

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 23/07/2025 18:51

Sorry if it’s already been asked - but who looks after and entertains his kids when they are around? Is he a good dad?

thenightsky · 23/07/2025 19:23

DD met a similar sounding man. She was 16 and told us he was 23. I found out from a friend he was actually 31. The story is very similar to OP's. He had one son, but he never saw the child and paid no CM. We did meet him as she just brought him round without warning on a few occasions.

She was at college. He did have a job in a shop, but was sacked for stealing the takings. He got another job as catering assistant and was sacked for stealing bottles of spirits. That pattern carried on.

She then went to uni in the same city. He took her student loan money and she was working 2 waitressing/bar jobs to pay their rent. Luckily uni saved her. She made some great female friends, which displeased him. He became more and more controlling and tried to drive her friends and us away. Final straw was when he was arrested for attacking the security door staff in a local nightclub where DD had gone for a good friend's birthday. Next day she rang me, begging me to come and pick her up at a set time (when he was out boozing).

You have my sympathy OP. I'd go ahead and meet him though. DH didn't want to, but he gritted his teeth. I also used to go around to their flat, all friendly, just to send a message that he wouldn't get rid of DD's family that easy.

Laura95167 · 23/07/2025 19:27

Know thine enemy.

Meet him, hold your tongue, keep the door open and be ready

Maddy70 · 23/07/2025 22:46

Is she happy?

Elmaas · 23/07/2025 23:07

Madness to be giving her money.
She needs to face her reality.
You giving her money is prolonging this.

Her decisions have consequences.
She needs to face them.

Praying4Peace · 23/07/2025 23:12

InALonelyWorld · 23/07/2025 15:06

OP, I know this isn't what you want to here but as someone who has been in your daughters shoes when i was young, there is absolutely nothing you can do to make her see sense here. This is something she is going to have to see herself. It might take months, maybe even years more for this to finally happen but those rose tinted glasses will lift at some point. All I can advice is that you are there to support her and help pick up the pieces when the time comes.

I would be inclined to agree to you meeting him and being a bit less obvious with your dislike to him because I would imagine it's subconciously pushing your DD into the stay camp for a little while longer yet. Integrate yourself with them, meet the boyfriend and help support your DD from a distance whilst actively keeping an eye on things. We all know how the young, stubborn mind works if you tell them that you don't approve of something.

I know its really hard but for now keep the enemy close until your DD is ready to make the move to leave. This isn't something you have any control or persuasion over. Love is very complicated at this age, especially when your young and trying to forge your own path as a new adult, wanting to prove everyone wrong.

Brilliant post and sound advice

HazelBite · 29/12/2025 06:33

How are things now OP ?

TheaBrandt1 · 29/12/2025 07:05

Mine wasn’t a waster but he was bad news - erratic with a violent temper when drunk. Split up then went back 🙄. My poor parents. They never criticised or said much. I lied and lied to them though pretending I was seeing friends not him.

Had to come to the conclusion myself. What pushed me was that I wanted marriage and family and knew I could not do that with him (though he wanted to get married). I moved cities to break out of the cycle. Then met DH at my new job who is perfect. My parents LOVE him and still do 20 years on. I shudder to think if I’d stayed with him. Probably be in a woman’s refuge by now.

PollyBell · 29/12/2025 07:43

All you can do is be there for when ot all goes wrong you cant reason with people who deliberately dont see the red flags and keep their eyes firmly shut, and of course be prepared to have to house her and future grandchildren

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