To this is absolutely insane! Universal Credit Sanction

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Adult DD has had an absolute nightmare trying to get a job since she was fired just before Christmas,

She wasn’t happy in the role previous to that so applied for another, got it, gave her resignation. Three days into the new role, she was told, she wasn’t a good fit and immediately fired. She did absolutely nothing wrong btw.

This has massively affected her mental health. She’s never been fired before or been unemployed.

She has literally applied for over 1500 jobs since then, only got two interviews which she wasn’t successful at.

She missed a UC appointment in June. Not sure what exactly happened but she has evidence of her job search. At every appointment they tell her she’s applying for a lot of jobs and there’s noting they can do to help.

They have sanctioned her UC so she has only got £7!

According to the letter she has been sanctioned for 30 days for a first offence of missing one appointment after 6 months in which they have not helped her find a job!

She has an appointment later today and I’m planning to go with her to complain as she isn’t in the right head space to. I just think it’s totally disgusting! She lives at home luckily but can’t pay her phone bill even!

Imagine if she was living on her own and had no support!

AIBU to think this is extreme and unjustifiable punishment?

There is no such thing as gender discrimination.

Maybe read the rest before you get involved.

I did read it all.

You mean sex discrimination, not gender discrimination, and OP didn't suffer it. Furthermore, OP has already told us that only her DD and the MD were in the room when he made his vile comment.
There are many things in life which are morally unfair, but that doesn't mean they're legally unfair.

She was only there for 3 days but I have heard that employees will get employee rights from day 1. I don't know when. That's probably why the ops daughter is having difficulties getting another job.

So you’re another one who thinks it’s totally inoffensive to say that people with bowel issues have no choice but to have an accident on the job centre chair and can’t actually leave their house?

Another one who thinks it’s really awful to talk about medical aids which allow people with disabilities to leave the house.

And apparently another one who things that the poster going on about it was absolutely relevant on a thread about a woman with zero disabilities.

No, you didn’t read the rest of the comments.

oh! And also the fearmongering from that poster! Despite being told repeatedly that, as she has a disability, UC would arrange alternatives for her so she wouldn’t be put in that position if she really couldn’t. But she kept going. People with disabilities will be reading this, and it makes claiming UC even more scary as they’ll think there won’t be reasonable adjustments for them.

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She's referring to one of the nine protected characteristics under the Equality Act 2010, gender reassignment, which has nothing to do with OP's DD's case.

She has no rights
https://www.gov.uk/dismissal

No, she isn’t. She thinks she’s saying “sex discrimination.” But she isn’t.

Someone who thinks sex and gender mean the same thing has absolutely no clue what she is talking about when it comes to employment tribunals. She absolutely doesn’t mean people with a GRC.

Gender is not a protected characteristic. And has been explained to you, he made a comment about a third party’s weight which he’d probably have said to a man as much as a woman. Given your lack of understanding of the laws around these things I’d stop sounding so sure of what’s possible.

Many in the workforce may miss one appointment which means they don’t get job -role, convenience, pay - if they miss an interview. If you apply that universally yes one has to live with the consequences.

No, I've already explained to her that she meant sex discrimination, not gender discrimination - see my comment to her at 22:53hrs above. She also doesn't know the difference between unfair dismissal and wrongful dismissal, which I've also explained to her - see my comment at 22:39hrs on the previous page.
It's clear she doesn't know anything about employment law.

Gender reassignment is a protected characteristic though, and this is what she was incorrectly referring to, instead of sex discrimination, which also isn't relevant to OP's DD's dismissal.

Not sure why you quoted me. I know that. That’s what I just said?

She also is not referring to gender reassignment. That’s the closest match to the word she has used, but that’s absolutely not what she was meaning when she said it.

She thinks she was talking about sex discrimination. She wasn’t. She was talking about something that doesn’t exist. But she absolutely did not mean gender reassignment. I doubt she even knew that was a separate protected characteristic.

I doubt that he would have said it to a man!

She told the OP that the boss was known to be like that. She heard around the office that he was known to behave that way. So… he would have said it to a man.

She would not win a sex discrimination case. She would lose money.

Jesus.

What is wrong with you. Why are you being so nasty?

I was trying to help the OP.

Couldnt you just correct me on something in the law, if it needs to be corrected,

Instead of writing very nastily

"it's clear she doesn't know anything about employment law"

But you obviously don’t. It’s not helpful to tell the OP that they could sue. They can’t. It’s not helpful to say they would win at a tribunal. They won’t.

I think im right actually.

Ive heard of employers being sued for saying less.

My last workplace got sued for something similiar

The only issue in this instance, is that there is no witness and no proof

Back in the day you only needed one year's continuous service to qualify for full employment rights in the UK, but this was increased to two years in 2012 (good old Tory government 🙄 ). Labour's new Employment Rights Bill, which is due to become law in April 2026, will remove this two-year qualifying period for protection from unfair dismissal altogether, making it a day one right. 😃

I know someone who just won at an employment tribunal, because her boss said something nasty about her, to someone else.

There were witnesses to what was said, which helped.

Nice! We should have a day one right.

OP you post kinda doesn’t make sense and I get thr feeling there is a lot more to this story. You say your daughter is in bed for up to 16 hours a day. That gives her eight hours. Some of that will be eating, showering etc and yet she is applying for 9/10 jobs a day and has applied for over 1500 jobs. But she has missed more than one appointment? You may not like it but as others have said I’m she has missed appointments and has been sanctioned. You say she doesn’t have any money but she lives at home with you and can’t pay her phone bill. Is that what the money is for? Honestly I think she needs to reevaluate the situation, take responsibility and not have you fight her battles.

Indeed, and I could have said the same to you when you quoted me i.e. "I know that" but I chose to be polite and explain further what I believed she was trying to say even though she was getting it horribly wrong. I actually think you and I agree i.e. that she was incorrectly referring to gender discrimination when she meant sex discrimination (even though sex discrimination doesn't apply to this case either).

The daughter is lying. She's depressed so I do understand but it physically not possible to apply to that many jobs.