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AIBU for pronouncing the name Brooke as BrOOKe rather than Bruck

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MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 22/07/2025 11:54

I’m a Geordie and pronounce words such as Book, Look and Cook with an oo sound rather than the uck sound.
A family who are from about an hour a way said that her daughter is sick of everyone pronouncing her name incorrectly.

I explained that it’s an accent thing as we pronounce those words with an oo sound rather that uck so it wouldn’t occur to most people to pronounce it that way and they wouldn’t deliberately mispronounce her name!

Just as if I go another part of the country or different country they pronounce my name differently depending on their accent.

AIBU?

OP posts:
BeCyanSloth · 22/07/2025 20:25

Where I come from you would not want that name to be pronounced as Bruck as it’s slang for I have no money
but each to their own I suppose 😂

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 20:26

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:10

Bouquet is a good example.

It can be pronounced Boo-kay (mainly UK) or Bo-kay (mainly American).

Calling her Hyacinth Bucket would be deliberately rude.

Calling her Bouquet, of either pronunciation, is just an accent.

But if she’s telling you it’s boo-kay and not bo-kay, why can’t you just say boo-kay? Because you wouldn’t normally say boo-kay? Well, so what? It’s her name, it’s pronounced how it is. I’d imagine you can say boo-kay as well as you can say Bruck? FWIW, I say bo-kay, but when Mrs Bucket tells me it’s boo-kay then boo-kay it is.

queenmeadhbh · 22/07/2025 20:38

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:14

I'm not sure I'm following.. where has the D come from? In Derbyshire Katie is usually pronounced Kaytee.. apparently in other places it is pronounced without the t.

Katie holmes pronounces her name with an American accent. So the same very soft tap you get in an American “water”. Not the hard “T” you hear when Katie Price says her own name.

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:38

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:15

Am American introduces himself to you as Danny.

How do you say Danny in your Derbyshire accent the way he says it without mimicking his accent?

I've googled it and it sounds the same? Danny (dannee), Katie (kaytee), I wouldn't be changing the construct of their name, it would be the same recognisable name if I said it back to them in my own accent, which is what I would do.

a T and a D rhymes, so with Katie (Kaytee/Kaydee) you aren't changing the construct or sound of the name by using your own accent. it's just a slight change on the consonant sound, you wouldn't be saying a different name by using a different accent, so unless I'm missing something I'm not quite sure what you're getting at?

Changing an UH sound to an OOO sound, changes the pronunciation, which is the problem with names like Brooke.

jensondolally · 22/07/2025 20:38

Overthebow · 22/07/2025 12:14

Does anyone pronounce it Bruck? Book isn’t pronounced buck, look isn’t pronounced luck so I’m not sure where you’re getting this from. Brook does rhymes with book and look though, but no u sound. I from the south and no one would say bruck.

This confuses me. In my accent book is pronounced buck. Look is the same as luck.
I would pronounce Brooke as bruck. Just like I called “Brookside” bruckside.

Those that are saying the parents are wrong - no they aren’t. Brooke pronounced bruck is a common name (known more in America than here). But the OP is also not wrong. In their accent the name is pronounced “broook”. Just like they’d say “loook” for look and boook for book.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:39

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 20:26

But if she’s telling you it’s boo-kay and not bo-kay, why can’t you just say boo-kay? Because you wouldn’t normally say boo-kay? Well, so what? It’s her name, it’s pronounced how it is. I’d imagine you can say boo-kay as well as you can say Bruck? FWIW, I say bo-kay, but when Mrs Bucket tells me it’s boo-kay then boo-kay it is.

For exactly the same reason that a Liverpudlian might pronounce Claire as "Clur".; Because that's how it is said in that accent.

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 22/07/2025 20:40

NarnianQueen · 22/07/2025 12:00

It’s not a wrong pronunciation though is it? It’s just an accent. If I went to America I wouldn’t be “mispronouncing” The weird water of I said it with a “t” instead of a “d”sound. But I would be pronouncing it differently from the locals

But we are talking about someone’s name. Not water.

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 22/07/2025 20:41

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:39

For exactly the same reason that a Liverpudlian might pronounce Claire as "Clur".; Because that's how it is said in that accent.

Are liverpudlians unable to make the same sounds as other people? 🤔

Venalopolos · 22/07/2025 20:41

May913 · 22/07/2025 12:20

I don't think they're pronouncing it's Bruck in the way people are thinking on here ie rhyming with luck, I think that might be just how the OP is trying to explain the sound.

I think the way the OP says it (due to accent) it rhymes with fluke, when it should rhyme with look. But to the OP fluke and look rhyme.

I can hear how Brooke can almost sound like Bruck if you say the oo sound very softly.

Edited

For me, luck and look are pronounced exactly the same. And Brooke is pronounced Bruck. And when I hear the wiktionary recordings as Bruck too.

I’m NW/Yorkshire way

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 22/07/2025 20:43

Chersfrozenface · 22/07/2025 12:05

The common noun 'brook' , the surname Brooke and the transferred given name are all pronounced with a double o sound in standard English and in all the areas I know of.

See the Wiktionary entry
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Brooke

The audio file is of a Southern English speaker.

'bruck' is a very, er, individual pronunciation.

Yeah it doesn’t rhyme with Duck! 🦆

howaboutchocolate · 22/07/2025 20:43

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 22/07/2025 20:41

Are liverpudlians unable to make the same sounds as other people? 🤔

Are you able to say Clur? Would you call a Claire from Liverpool Clur or Claire?

jensondolally · 22/07/2025 20:46

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 22/07/2025 20:43

Yeah it doesn’t rhyme with Duck! 🦆

but it does! The way it’s pronounced on that Wiki recording absolutely rhymes with duck!

How do you pronounce duck?!

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:47

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:39

For exactly the same reason that a Liverpudlian might pronounce Claire as "Clur".; Because that's how it is said in that accent.

But if you called her Claire and she said, I actually prefer Clur.. you would still continue to call her Claire "because you are right"?

Wouldn't you just call her by what she wants?

It's not mimicking her accent to use the name Clur, I can say it in my accent perfectly fine, it doesn't matter that her name is spelled Claire, it is her name and her choice what she asks people to call her.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:50

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:38

I've googled it and it sounds the same? Danny (dannee), Katie (kaytee), I wouldn't be changing the construct of their name, it would be the same recognisable name if I said it back to them in my own accent, which is what I would do.

a T and a D rhymes, so with Katie (Kaytee/Kaydee) you aren't changing the construct or sound of the name by using your own accent. it's just a slight change on the consonant sound, you wouldn't be saying a different name by using a different accent, so unless I'm missing something I'm not quite sure what you're getting at?

Changing an UH sound to an OOO sound, changes the pronunciation, which is the problem with names like Brooke.

There's no logic or consistency in what you're saying.

Changing a T sound to a D doesn't change the pronunciation, but changing an UH sound to an OOO sound does? Come on, both are alterations caused by different accents.

Saying a New York Danny in a Derbyshire accent makes no difference but saying Brooke in a Newcastle accent makes the name unrecognisable? Nonsense.

Your definition of what is a "slight" change and what isn't it completely arbitrary.

Brooke said in a Newcastle accent isn't a different name to Brooke said in a Yorkshire accent. Only the accent has changed. People say names in different accents.

jensondolally · 22/07/2025 20:50

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 22/07/2025 20:41

Are liverpudlians unable to make the same sounds as other people? 🤔

How you never watched Eastenders, or Corrie or Briokside? How about Auf Weidersehen, Pet?
Have you not noticed that names sound different in different accents? Do you think that there are different spellings used in different parts of the country, so those called “Claire” who live in Liverpool actually spell it “Clur”?

howaboutchocolate · 22/07/2025 20:50

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:47

But if you called her Claire and she said, I actually prefer Clur.. you would still continue to call her Claire "because you are right"?

Wouldn't you just call her by what she wants?

It's not mimicking her accent to use the name Clur, I can say it in my accent perfectly fine, it doesn't matter that her name is spelled Claire, it is her name and her choice what she asks people to call her.

She would never say that, though, because her name isn't Clur pronounced in various accents. It's Claire, and in her accent it sound like Clur but someone without that accent saying Clur would sound bloody stupid. As far as she knows, she is saying Claire, not Clur!

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:52

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:47

But if you called her Claire and she said, I actually prefer Clur.. you would still continue to call her Claire "because you are right"?

Wouldn't you just call her by what she wants?

It's not mimicking her accent to use the name Clur, I can say it in my accent perfectly fine, it doesn't matter that her name is spelled Claire, it is her name and her choice what she asks people to call her.

But she wouldn't say that, because Claires in Liverpool know that the name Claire is pronounced differently outside their city

queenmeadhbh · 22/07/2025 20:53

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:38

I've googled it and it sounds the same? Danny (dannee), Katie (kaytee), I wouldn't be changing the construct of their name, it would be the same recognisable name if I said it back to them in my own accent, which is what I would do.

a T and a D rhymes, so with Katie (Kaytee/Kaydee) you aren't changing the construct or sound of the name by using your own accent. it's just a slight change on the consonant sound, you wouldn't be saying a different name by using a different accent, so unless I'm missing something I'm not quite sure what you're getting at?

Changing an UH sound to an OOO sound, changes the pronunciation, which is the problem with names like Brooke.

A T and a d do not “rhyme” ?! They are different consonant sounds. It changes the pronunciation just as much as changing a vowel.

are you saying that we should use the same vowel sounds as the way they say their own name, but consonants are fair game??

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:59

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:50

There's no logic or consistency in what you're saying.

Changing a T sound to a D doesn't change the pronunciation, but changing an UH sound to an OOO sound does? Come on, both are alterations caused by different accents.

Saying a New York Danny in a Derbyshire accent makes no difference but saying Brooke in a Newcastle accent makes the name unrecognisable? Nonsense.

Your definition of what is a "slight" change and what isn't it completely arbitrary.

Brooke said in a Newcastle accent isn't a different name to Brooke said in a Yorkshire accent. Only the accent has changed. People say names in different accents.

Changing a T sound to a D doesn't change the pronunciation, but changing an UH sound to an OOO sound does?

Good grief YES

KAYTEE, KAYDEE .. exactly the same construct, still both recognisable as Katie. Tee and Dee rhymes.

BRUCK, BREWWK.. changing the vowel sound changes the construct of the name, so the pronunciation sounds completely different.

Neither is right or wrong.. but Brooke wants to be called Bruck.. so why call her anything else when you are perfectly capable of saying the word 'Bruck'.

It's just being pedantic to refuse to call her by her preferred name.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 21:00

howaboutchocolate · 22/07/2025 20:50

She would never say that, though, because her name isn't Clur pronounced in various accents. It's Claire, and in her accent it sound like Clur but someone without that accent saying Clur would sound bloody stupid. As far as she knows, she is saying Claire, not Clur!

Yes, exactly. There is no name "Clur".

The name is Claire. It is pronounced differently in different places, as everyone knows.

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 21:00

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:52

But she wouldn't say that, because Claires in Liverpool know that the name Claire is pronounced differently outside their city

So completely irrelevant to OPs problem then.

queenmeadhbh · 22/07/2025 21:05

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:59

Changing a T sound to a D doesn't change the pronunciation, but changing an UH sound to an OOO sound does?

Good grief YES

KAYTEE, KAYDEE .. exactly the same construct, still both recognisable as Katie. Tee and Dee rhymes.

BRUCK, BREWWK.. changing the vowel sound changes the construct of the name, so the pronunciation sounds completely different.

Neither is right or wrong.. but Brooke wants to be called Bruck.. so why call her anything else when you are perfectly capable of saying the word 'Bruck'.

It's just being pedantic to refuse to call her by her preferred name.

No, your idea of “changing the construct” of a name and what is recognisable is not based on any linguistic fact.

The consonant sounds for “t” and “d” do not rhyme.

imagine Amy in a Belfast accent and Amy in a southern English accent. The first is something like “ee-uh mee” due to the diphthong used for that vowel sound in a Belfast accent, the second more like “ay-mee”. Do you think English people should put on a Harry Enfield as William Ulsterman style voice and call northern Irish Amy “ee-uh mee”??? If someone tried that I’d presume they were mocking me. It’s not a normal thing to do.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 21:06

No, completely relevant to the question "Is it unreasonable to pronounce Brooke as BrOOke?" No. No, it isn't.

And it's a 7 year old who thinks it is unreasonable who, presumably, doesn't yet realise that different people in different places pronounce the same names differently.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 21:14

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 20:59

Changing a T sound to a D doesn't change the pronunciation, but changing an UH sound to an OOO sound does?

Good grief YES

KAYTEE, KAYDEE .. exactly the same construct, still both recognisable as Katie. Tee and Dee rhymes.

BRUCK, BREWWK.. changing the vowel sound changes the construct of the name, so the pronunciation sounds completely different.

Neither is right or wrong.. but Brooke wants to be called Bruck.. so why call her anything else when you are perfectly capable of saying the word 'Bruck'.

It's just being pedantic to refuse to call her by her preferred name.

"Changing the construct" is your own concept that doesn't mean anything.

ScouserInExile · 22/07/2025 21:20

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 20:39

For exactly the same reason that a Liverpudlian might pronounce Claire as "Clur".; Because that's how it is said in that accent.

No. Some Liverpudlians (eg Cilla Black type accent) will pronounce it Clur, but others (myself included) (more of an Abbey Clancy type accent) pronounce it more like Cler.

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