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Working expectations for parents on UC

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BlackCatGreyWhiskers · 21/07/2025 12:27

AIBU to find this really frustrating? Basically there is no expectation for parents to work until their child is age 3. So if a family has more than one child that could be several years.

Whereas maternity leave is only 9-12months.

Especially as universal credit claimants can actually get help towards childcare expenses.

I don’t understand why there is a mismatch between the employed and unemployed?

When I went back after maternity, my pay was around £1500 and my childcare £800, then after I went back with my second my childcare went up to £1200. So I earnt next to nothing for 5 years before the eldest started school.

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ARichtGoodDram · 21/07/2025 22:17

ChristOlive · 21/07/2025 12:39

I do wonder if this will change now there’s 30hrs available for babies aged 9m+.

The 30 hours thing from 9 months isn't UK wide, whereas UC is so it would require changes elsewhere to make a change feasible.

XenoBitch · 21/07/2025 22:22

No one quits a decent job that has maternity pay, all the usual benefits etc, to go on UC and end up with a gap in their CV and career etc.
The parent's on UC will have either not been working to start with, or were in a dead end NMW job.

Justchilling07 · 21/07/2025 22:28

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 22:15

Wtf you on about. Night

Maybe read what was said, oh, you couldn’t be bothered to.All you’re doing is getting people’s backs up, your comments are a disgrace.You’re just making it harder for people who are genuine, through no fault of their own who are on low wages.You’re bragging about claiming universal credit, your just pathetic.

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 22:31

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N3wUs3rNam3Again · 21/07/2025 22:34

PeonyPatch · 21/07/2025 21:17

This is more in line. Absolutely not 6 months full and 6 months half pay, Jesus. I work for a big private healthcare company. I think I get 4-6 weeks full pay, then it drops to half for 4-6 weeks and then it’s SMP. Like I have said previously, I pay for half our mortgage, and my DH pays half plus the bills. With me out of work or on smp, that’s a significant drop to our household income and would put DH under significant strain. Not to mention he is self employed and there are some times of the year where there is less work due to his industry. Fortunately my job is v stable and secure, but I will need some time off to recover and as he earns more, he will need to stay in work. I think you’re underestimating how squeezed many families are despite earning a good wage. We don’t qualify for anything, so no safety net.

I think I said 6 weeks full, 6 months half. That's what I got working for Local Government, then the SMP for the last 6 weeks or whatever it was, I thought that was pretty standard so apologies for the assumption, seems I mostly know people who work in the public sector.

Justchilling07 · 21/07/2025 22:41

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Thought you said, you were going to bed.You can’t resist, help yourself, can you, with all your inane comments, oh that’s rhetorical by the way.You’re definitely a troll.

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Zanatdy · 21/07/2025 22:43

TwoFeralKids · 21/07/2025 22:07

So you think I shouldn't have put my son in because I work very little despite the fact he is speech delayed and possibly autistic? Many of these children probably aren't being taught to read or hold an pencil. The earlier in nursery the better.

If you’re not working you’ve got all the time in the world to teach him that yourself. So many toddler groups that he can attend with you. With all due respect, 30hrs in a nursery with a 1-8 ratio isn’t going to do as much as you think. You’re in a privileged position to be able to invest time yourself into helping with speech etc. A nursery certainly isn’t the be all and end all for that. He would start a school nursery at 3yrs old anyway. A private nursery place should be reserved for children whose parents work.

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 21/07/2025 22:46

'Not having money to themselves isn’t unique to claimants though - that’s my point, people are suggesting that I was inherently better off for working which isn’t true and I have illustrated.'

You couldn't afford to have a child and yet you did so regardless. That is hardly the fault of people who need to claim UC.

You should have got a better job first.

TwoFeralKids · 21/07/2025 22:55

Zanatdy · 21/07/2025 22:43

If you’re not working you’ve got all the time in the world to teach him that yourself. So many toddler groups that he can attend with you. With all due respect, 30hrs in a nursery with a 1-8 ratio isn’t going to do as much as you think. You’re in a privileged position to be able to invest time yourself into helping with speech etc. A nursery certainly isn’t the be all and end all for that. He would start a school nursery at 3yrs old anyway. A private nursery place should be reserved for children whose parents work.

The toddler groups he wouldn't participate in because he would rather play with water in the bathrooms? A bit ignorant if you don't think parents of children with speech delays don't read or sing or talk to them. Been there, done that. We are waiting on SALT. We both work. We are fully entitled to nursery.

Say for example a child has the same issues but parents don't work you would rather they would have to wait until three for any help especially if the parent is not proactive. Sorry but nope. Tough luck if you can't get a space.

RubySquid · 21/07/2025 22:58

N3wUs3rNam3Again · 21/07/2025 22:34

I think I said 6 weeks full, 6 months half. That's what I got working for Local Government, then the SMP for the last 6 weeks or whatever it was, I thought that was pretty standard so apologies for the assumption, seems I mostly know people who work in the public sector.

My DDs both have had 6 weeks at 90'% then about£180 ish a week after that.

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:00

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 19:44

I sure do sugar plum!!!!!

Way to go. Proving the point of everyone who believes that the benefits system is basically out of control and those abusing it should be made to get to work.

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:01

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:00

Way to go. Proving the point of everyone who believes that the benefits system is basically out of control and those abusing it should be made to get to work.

Definitely out of control. Not going to lie

Confusdworriedmum · 21/07/2025 23:01

ChristOlive · 21/07/2025 12:56

The problem is, working doesn’t really pay off anymore. The vast majority use the NHS for the same standard of care, often council funded care home beds are in the same facility as paid for ones, there’s virtually no chance workers will get a state pension in twenty years, houses have to be sold or rent paid whereas council houses are a home for life…

OP is right, those on benefits don’t realise how lucky they are. Barely anyone wants to go back to work when their child is tiny, but only those on benefits and the very rich have any choice about it.

Yes very lucky. I loved it when I was on benefits wondering if I could afford nappies and food. No it was shit. Absolutely horrific. I wish all those who think it's so easy could have lived the life I had when I was on benefits.just so people know how awful it is.

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:03

The benefits gravy train is totally out of control and something needs to be done to stop this madness. That’s why people are becoming so hardened to it, because the contributors know that it’s being abused.

Addictedtohotbaths · 21/07/2025 23:04

ChristOlive · 21/07/2025 13:40

But we need to look at this as a society, not individualistically. The system doesn’t work. We have thousands of higher rate tax payers choosing not to work which damages the economy (and healthcare access) and we have thousands of low income households opting not to work at all. It’s an increasing issue and as a country, we can’t afford it.

What do you mean by higher rate tax payees choosing not to work? As in they’re leaving the county or cutting back hours to pay less tax?

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:05

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:01

Definitely out of control. Not going to lie

You must be a paid campaigner for Reform. Because your posts are fantastic recruiting agent for a party that, when it gets into power, will take an axe to this system. Genuine people will also lose out. But hey, whatever stops the gravy train has to be a good thing.

TheWatersofMarch · 21/07/2025 23:06

@ChristOliveyou do know that Council tenants pay rent? I don’t think it’s usually as much as private tenants but Council Housing isn’t free.

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:08

Zanatdy · 21/07/2025 21:18

This is a classic example in this poster.

A friend’s daughter said to me not so long ago, there’s no point working full time when you’re on UC. In her eyes there’s no point.

But she’s not thinking about her crap pension, her lack of progression so going up the career ladder is not going to happen, and the next generation who see sponging off the state as their life ambition.

I’ll take working and setting a good example to my kids who actually have set themselves some amazing career goals any day over living off UC and feeling smug. Short term maybe, but i’ll take the long game thanks. Not sure why anyone thinks it’s really a better option.

Basically some people will go on taking more and more and more from the system, with no limits. When they get older (not retire, as retirement is reserved for people who actually work), they then want and almost always get more than those poor suckers who pay for more free stuff for them.

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:09

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:05

You must be a paid campaigner for Reform. Because your posts are fantastic recruiting agent for a party that, when it gets into power, will take an axe to this system. Genuine people will also lose out. But hey, whatever stops the gravy train has to be a good thing.

Good I'm glad

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:10

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:09

Good I'm glad

Turkeys and Xmas.

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:10

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:08

Basically some people will go on taking more and more and more from the system, with no limits. When they get older (not retire, as retirement is reserved for people who actually work), they then want and almost always get more than those poor suckers who pay for more free stuff for them.

Yes definitely

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:11

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:10

Yes definitely

Finally you’re seeing sense.

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:11

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:10

Turkeys and Xmas.

Love it

Pirating55 · 21/07/2025 23:13

Jennps · 21/07/2025 23:11

Finally you’re seeing sense.

Are you actually okay??? Have you read my last posts or just jumping on this train blind. I work part time and claim as its easy to do. I don't give a shit what happens

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