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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

That my mum is actually the problem?

56 replies

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 21/07/2025 11:53

Background : I moved countries when I was 23 and settled and made a life in England. Sadly, my dad passed away 10 years ago so my mum is on her own in my home country.

The issue : she’s lonely, sad and miserable BUT she’s also part of the problem. One side of the family (dad’s) won’t have anything or very little to do with her. Some of them are indeed pricks , but she also looks down on them, they’re beneath her etc. Her side are more involved, but it’s not as often as she’d like or how she’d like it. She refuses invitations to any big events(weddings, christenings , big gatherings/anniversaries) because she’s on her own , then claims she’s excluded because she’s on her own. She refuses offers to be picked up and go and stay because they weren’t offered the right way, or at the right time , or the right weather, or someone else might also be coming or whatever.

I try my best and other than the covid years and this year she comes over at least once a year for a month. Of course, this is also on her terms. No shorter than a month, she won’t come stay when me and DD are at work/schools. She expects outings and visits, but it can’t be too hot, that’s boring,too many stairs, too cramped that’s awkward, that’s too silly, that’s too whatever. Sometimes I literally have to drag her out. No interest in history and similar stuff , but when she goes on holidays she does the visiting /walking all over ones so that’s baffling. I try to arrange things she would like , for example she loves flowers so I booked to go to Kew Gardens , but that still was somehow wrong. No enthusiasm or curiosity. I’ve booked and done most of the touristy London stuff and taken her to various places from local woods, to lidos, to theme parks , to garden centres, to museums to Buckingham Palace to Harrods and a bunch of other places all at my expense. Last year she moaned I never took her to the wax museum!!! She never expressed an interest and that place involves all the things she hates. I mean sure, she’ll happily spend 7 hours in a shopping centre , but there’s only so many times you can do that and I frankly hate it. That’s without the fact that she’s highly critical and sometimes completely bonkers and a dick.

Big sobbing meltdown again today about how lonely she is , and that one doesn’t call , and that one doesn’t talk to her and that one doesn’t see her and of course the biggest baddie of them all , ME , because she isn’t coming over and we’re nit going over there. Lots if thinly veiled and outright guilt tripping .

We were going to , but we have a 10 days holiday, OH has a pretty straightforward (but still..) surgery coming up , DD has some appointments that can’t be changed right in the middle of things and whatever other social things come up. I’ve had an extremely shit year at work and I just need the break. She knows all of this, but you know I have 6 weeks free and can’t be bothered to make the effort. Maybe I’m not, because the effort is too fucking much for not much return.

So AIBU to think that her situation is partly her fault and she should be looking at her own behaviours and attitude, rather than blaming everyone else for being selfish arseholes?

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Eyesopenwideawake · 23/07/2025 13:33

How old is she? If she wants to change she can – but if she can't see that she needs to then nothing anyone else can do will make a jot of difference.

(As an aside, she might have learned from her own childhood that being negative is as good as better than being positive in terms of getting attention. What was her mum like?).

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 23/07/2025 22:44

I think I would be saying/telling her:
"As nothing I try and do makes you happy then try starting with a little self focus because you are the only person who can make you happy. We are responsible for our own happiness but you want to thrive on telling people, me how rubbish we are doing at life and I'm so done with being your punch bag so I'm going to take a little time out for some reflection and I suggest you do the same. Speak to you in X days/weeks

I know she's your mum but that doesn't mean she can do this to you and you are within your right to take a step back and show her that you won't be bullied by her anymore.

Good luck

RainbowSlimeLab · 24/07/2025 09:36

My mum was like this. Wanted me to be the centre of her life. As a teen I was never allowed to spend time alone in my bedroom, I had to be down in the lounge watching the with her. She once told me she was devastated my sibling didn’t move back home after university and thus accepted I wouldn’t, but it was obvious that she thought I would. She found a house that had a separate annex which she said we could move into together and I’d have my own lounge, but then agreed she wouldn’t let me spend time there.

I moved far away and I still couldn’t escape. She’d want to ring every day and monologue. She’d even ring me at work for no real reason.

I know she was lonely but like your mum she wouldn’t help herself. She also felt everyone was beneath her and would criticise all her friends being their back. She joined U3A but, again, she wasn’t happy. She moved opposite a primary school and I suggested she could volunteer there. She refused as, despite not having taught in a primary school for 40 years she would be better than the class teacher and find it hard not to take over.

I eventually gave up. My counsellor pointed out I could never give enough of myself, that I could live next door and she'd only be happy if I spent 25 hours a day with her.

SkaterGrrrrl · 24/07/2025 14:58

I am v similar in that I came to UK in early 20s, married, had kids, built a life. DM lives on the other side of the world, we are not close. I feel horrendous guilt but I left my home country as it has significant problems, my DC are far safer / happier being born and raised here. I do understand how you feel.

I am lucky in that DM keeps herself busy with church activities so she does have community around her, it lessens the guilt I feel. It's not fair for your mum to make you responsible for her loneliness. Does she have activities or groups local to her she can try?

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 24/07/2025 15:20

SkaterGrrrrl · 24/07/2025 14:58

I am v similar in that I came to UK in early 20s, married, had kids, built a life. DM lives on the other side of the world, we are not close. I feel horrendous guilt but I left my home country as it has significant problems, my DC are far safer / happier being born and raised here. I do understand how you feel.

I am lucky in that DM keeps herself busy with church activities so she does have community around her, it lessens the guilt I feel. It's not fair for your mum to make you responsible for her loneliness. Does she have activities or groups local to her she can try?

There are things she could do. She’s been saying for years she’ll go to some English classes like x, but never does. She does have some friends and family. When she goes on holidays (3/4 times a year) it’s always in a group. That’s the thing, she’s not massively lonely, but it has to be on her terms , just the way she wants it, when she wants. Or, they’re all couples and she’s on her own and she doesn’t like it. Then she says everyone is excluding her since she’s become a widow.She’s mad her sister doesn’t invite her over, but the last two times she did she said no to the first because it was too short notice and the second because she misunderstood something. Of course, my aunt is an awful human being too. She’ll complain some random cousin never rings her , but she didn’t go to his wedding , or his child’s christening or this big event or the other.

I think it’s more people/family not offering practical support , making her life easier and putting her first/at the top of their priorities.

Her latest meltdown has basically been brought one by one cousin on one side making a family WhatsApp group and not including her and a cousin from dad’s side posting a pic from a year ago with some of them having dinner at a restaurant. I find it incredibly childish, but then again I don’t like people much , so what do I know?

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SkaterGrrrrl · 24/07/2025 20:06

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 24/07/2025 15:20

There are things she could do. She’s been saying for years she’ll go to some English classes like x, but never does. She does have some friends and family. When she goes on holidays (3/4 times a year) it’s always in a group. That’s the thing, she’s not massively lonely, but it has to be on her terms , just the way she wants it, when she wants. Or, they’re all couples and she’s on her own and she doesn’t like it. Then she says everyone is excluding her since she’s become a widow.She’s mad her sister doesn’t invite her over, but the last two times she did she said no to the first because it was too short notice and the second because she misunderstood something. Of course, my aunt is an awful human being too. She’ll complain some random cousin never rings her , but she didn’t go to his wedding , or his child’s christening or this big event or the other.

I think it’s more people/family not offering practical support , making her life easier and putting her first/at the top of their priorities.

Her latest meltdown has basically been brought one by one cousin on one side making a family WhatsApp group and not including her and a cousin from dad’s side posting a pic from a year ago with some of them having dinner at a restaurant. I find it incredibly childish, but then again I don’t like people much , so what do I know?

It sounds really difficult, I am sorry.

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