Thread 9: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

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We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for eight threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

I was too late to edit in this brilliantly insightful comment from one of Belle Gibson's friends in the documentary: 'She doesn't have friends, she has hosts'.

Sorry, veering off (the path) from French properties ...

Agree, I mentioned cognitive dissonance earlier, but I’d now add ‘downright hypocrisy.’

for all the eco-warrior, freedom-fighting, nature- loving, tree-hugging, finger-knit your own beanie hat from sea grass mentality…. there’s a hell of a lot of capitalist behaviour.

Agree that Apple Cider Vinegar is very good! Another vote for it if anyone here is looking for a new series to get your teeth into.

@TheBrandyPath Thank you, I had forgotten that :)

It's a gloop brain/React button morning so far.

'My truth', 'My reality', 'My version ' blah blah meaningless 'insta speak'.

Also hard for SW to play the "memory" excuse card now, given she has said she initially wrote TSP to aid TW whose illness seemed to be causing him to forget details about the walk that SW could recall.

I also rate Apple Cider Vinegar but would recommend watching the Australian 60 minute interview beforehand - it’s an absolute corker. One of the best.

I also recommend The Dropout on BBC iPlayer about the first biotech billionaire Elizabeth Holmes. She claimed to have invented the means to blood test for a range of illnesses based in a single drop of blood - at the age of 19. Hmm, yeah, okay!

@Debsthegardener
I read that as Debs the gangster. I was surprised she was interested in this topic. Sorry but it made me laugh!

In Landlines when a defeated Ray & unusually alert Moth arrive in Edinburgh on bikes, Ray reminds us he’s losing his memory. Ray exclaims ‘you know we were in Scotland thirty five years ago’ Moth doesn’t immediately recall their wedding day. Am not sure I would after pushing it like they have that day. Moth seems pretty super human to me yet he seems to be reminded of his frailty often: ‘I watch him as he stops walking and puts his hand to his face’. Ray is ‘annoyed’ he’s forgotten then admits it’s taken her until midnight to remember herself.

Maybe I am missing something but I am now looking for these signs of decline & wondering at Ray’s expectations & interpretations. The injured lamb etc along the way provide poignant symbols and metaphors that tug at heartstrings. Mind you, to give benefit of doubt she knows him best.

I doubt the property cost more than 5k euros. I think Tim and Sally are jealous of Martyn and his wife's successes

I'm not sure that you are understanding me:

"Started deliberately." you say.

Well, there is a phenomenon known as "Italian lightning" where things just blow up of their own accord.

Have you never seen Goodfellas?

Jeremy is Martyn right?

True. I did consider the price, but if it was so low one must wonder why Martyn didn't just buy it himself. The properties are so close in proximity that I think it's likely that at least some point in time, at least pre Walker that they were under the same ownership. I can't understand why MW would have bought the Pigeonierre on its own that would be hard pressed to accomodate an 8 person family. Unless of course he planned to demolish and rebuild something else. Guess we'll never know.

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This is significantly after the initial publication date - so someone has read it.....
Jeremy is Martyn right?

Sorry beyond my expertise .... I know someone else was onto this way back.

https://nation.cymru/culture/the-pinch-of-salt-path/

Jeremy sounds like Cooper .. both "childhood friend" and "financially successful in London".

I'm sticking with the theory that Cooper is a fictional character based on a mixture of Tim's brother and Tim's half-uncle...the sources of their woes (as perceived by Raymoth).

I think we need a legal correspondent.

What would happen if SalRay apologised or admitted to the embezzlement? Could she still be prosecuted?

I believe there is a statute of limitations for fraud in the UK because it is almost impossible for there to be a fair trial after 6 years. Things like bank statements and other documentation will no longer be available so the victim could cherry pick evidence to keep. NB I am not suggesting that has or could happen in this case, just explaining the reasoning behind the time limit.

The embezzlement was originally reported to the police within 6 years but obviously we are long past the time limit now.

Would the time bar still apply if there was an admission of guilt by way of an apology?

Although I assume if it did go to court, she would retract it and argue that she felt under pressure from the media to apologise.

Where I live there are a lot of people like that, they remind me of the girl in Pulp’s Common People. They’re always really happy to hold their hands out in order to spend their own time on more esoteric, fulfilling, natural or artistic pursuits; cleaning, cooking, applying for mortgages and so on are for other people to do. For some people, the ‘freedom’ to live as they please doesn’t account for other people- they’re ‘supporting cast’ members in the important lives.

I think SalRay is good at evoking a feeling, sympathy, and at creating a picture with words. Nearly at the end of TWS, I’ve found it a bit annoying in parts but have wanted to keep reading. Like TSP. But in this book it’s wees that she has an obsession with, rather than poos 😂

I'll have you know that gangsters can be quite sensitive souls, away from all the gangstering.

Gardeners on the other hand...

I think we need a legal correspondent.

We have had a couple of legal eagles along the way on these threads. Hopefully they'll pop back up again at some point, as long as we don't all start PM'ing them about our wills and boundary disputes. 😁

Neurological conditions, publishing and film bods have been about too, as well as more writers, journalists and hikers.

I'm a hiker (most of the LDPS in the UK and many in Europe) and also a writer (as yet unplublished!) - 300 page account of a walk from Wiltshire to Rome on the Via Francigena entitled 'On a Wing and a Prayer' which coincidentally features a peregrine falcon at the start (but not the end!) of the book!

Ooh, I'd love to read that!

@DisappointedReader “I think we need a legal correspondent.”

I was a commercial property lawyer. It that was 25 years ago and I wasn’t great tbh 😅. Happy to offer opinions but don’t feel qualified for the esteemed correspondent title.

Interestingly, I have seen many people lose homes or cases due to bad decisions so I’m not sure I would have necessarily thought that the stated circumstances were odd but I only read the book with the benefit of hindsight.

The law really doesn’t dish out justice - I should know, I used to own a flat with a nightmare freeholder. Never mind, I thought, the law is on my side, I’ll just demonstrate my superior legal knowledge and all will be well. 17 years of battles and turmoil to finally rid myself of the nightmare. I also know property lawyers who had endowment mortgages, possibly one of the worst investments one can make and they should have known better!

I am now a gardener so maybe I can be, er, horticultural correspondent now the wild pooing slot has been taken 😉

@DisappointedReader

Would like to put myself forward for:

Copyright Correspondent
Aga/Rayburn Cub Reporter, but already specialising in powder blue ones
Past Thread Historian
Field Trip Supporter

Scones and fingers of fudge will be brought along on our trip.

Non-AI poem:

A walk
Or not?
A Schrödinger's Walk
...fuel for a (paid) talk

A place of residence
But was it habitable? And was it 'the property investment'?
An angry Mayor, certainly
...and a tale that makes no sense

An illness
We mustn't question
Mustn't lessen

But a cure
We definitely shouldn't use
As a lesson

I think the bloody WalkerWinns may be influencing my whole thought process these days. Today I was at a funeral (of a 99 year old) and at one point the vicar said that she'd "walked a long way along life's path", which just made me think of RayMoth and this thread 🤦.