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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To invite the grammar and language pedants to share their pet peeves?

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AlertCat · 19/07/2025 14:33

AIBU to feel annoyed when I see people say Slither instead of sliver? It was even in a book I read recently. A slither of cake. No! That makes no sense, unless the cake’s been trodden into the carpet!

Also see: step foot in instead of set foot in

There’s plenty of others but those will do for now.

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HonoriaBulstrode · 19/07/2025 16:46

Weird use of inverted commas: ‘He said “he didn’t eat meat”’ so I said “I didn’t care, he could eat it or not.”’
If you’re quoting someone, quote them, or convey the gist of the conversation without quoting, either is fine.

Jane Austen does that.
....he thought her “less thin in her person, in her cheeks; her skin, her complexion, greatly improved; clearer, fresher. Had she been using any thing in particular?” “No, nothing.” “Merely Gowland,” he supposed. “No, nothing at all.” “Ha! he was surprised at that;”

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2025 16:47

IdaGlossop · 19/07/2025 16:41

Plural verbs used with singular nouns. Eg 'The crowd sing along with Wonderwall.'

There seems to be a weird thing over plurals in some places that jars. Usually when you can treat a group as a single entity. E.g. "Manchester United are a football team based in the UK" to my ears sounds correct. "Manchester United is a football team based in the UK" doesn't. I guess there could be a very subtle rule at play, but blessed if I know it.

It's a shame we stopped bothering with genders in English. We lost a whole battlefield there

TellingBone · 19/07/2025 16:47

Upmost for utmost 😡

hmmimnotsurewhy · 19/07/2025 16:48

Devine instead of divine

Isittimeformynapyet · 19/07/2025 16:48

Slimtoddy · 19/07/2025 16:30

I am curious about something. Why do these mistakes bother you so much? What goes on in your head when you see one of these mistakes? Is it a bit like nails on a blackboard?

As someone with dyslexia I struggle with spelling and grammar rules but more so when I am worried. If I relax I am more likely to not make mistakes (or is it - more likely not to make mistakes 😀).

I genuinely think I have some kind of word OCD.

I definitely have a visceral reaction to the sort of mistakes people are talking about here. It feels as though everything is flying out of control and it makes me really uncomfortable.

I'm not talking about typos btw, or when autocorrect or formatting changes what's been written, it's the virus-like spread of willful wrongness that makes me panicky.

Moveoverdarlin · 19/07/2025 16:49

BreadandButterscotch · 19/07/2025 14:37

On route rather than en route. Unless you’re on, for example, Route 66, in which case, the former would be acceptable!

I was going to say this one too. Really bugs me.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/07/2025 16:52

HonoriaBulstrode · 19/07/2025 16:27

defiantly instead of definitely

I think that's possibly autocorrecting from definately.

No, I think it's gone beyond that on social media now, and people have accepted it as the correct version.

ConnieHeart · 19/07/2025 16:53

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 19/07/2025 16:43

"Please contact myself if you have any questions"

"Katie and myself are handling this process"

etc...

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

The word they are looking for is "me" in the first example and "I" in the second.

You would hate The Traitors then! "I've voted for yourself, John..." 🤣

CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/07/2025 16:55

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2025 16:36

Why do these mistakes bother you so much?

Language - and the way we use it - is a fundamental component of the socialisation that makes us human.

So much so that people have been killed over how they pronounce something, let alone a tiny grammatical or syntactical slip.

So it can arise deep deep emotions.

(In case anyone needs a defence in court 😀)

It actually slows down your ability to read and understand a paragraph if it's littered with grammatical and other errors.

Beachtastic · 19/07/2025 16:55

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2025 16:47

There seems to be a weird thing over plurals in some places that jars. Usually when you can treat a group as a single entity. E.g. "Manchester United are a football team based in the UK" to my ears sounds correct. "Manchester United is a football team based in the UK" doesn't. I guess there could be a very subtle rule at play, but blessed if I know it.

It's a shame we stopped bothering with genders in English. We lost a whole battlefield there

In UK English, we tend to use a a plural verb with group nouns where you're thinking of members acting individually ("The crowd were cheering wildly" or "The committee are preparing their own speeches") but singular where the group acts as one ("The crowd was silent" or "The committee has prepared its decision").

In US English, they tend to prefer singular verbs regardless of context, e.g. "The staff is very helpful" (which always sounds odd to me but that's just the way they roll).

Punctuation also varies between UK and US English, for example we use single quotes with puncutation outside, 'like this', whereas in the US the convention is double quotes with punctuation inside, "like this."

IdaGlossop · 19/07/2025 16:56

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2025 16:47

There seems to be a weird thing over plurals in some places that jars. Usually when you can treat a group as a single entity. E.g. "Manchester United are a football team based in the UK" to my ears sounds correct. "Manchester United is a football team based in the UK" doesn't. I guess there could be a very subtle rule at play, but blessed if I know it.

It's a shame we stopped bothering with genders in English. We lost a whole battlefield there

It will not surprise you to hear that 'Manchester United is a football team....' sounds right to me. I suspect I have been influenced by speaking French and Italian, where verb endings are more numerous than they are in English.

Isittimeformynapyet · 19/07/2025 16:57

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2025 16:47

There seems to be a weird thing over plurals in some places that jars. Usually when you can treat a group as a single entity. E.g. "Manchester United are a football team based in the UK" to my ears sounds correct. "Manchester United is a football team based in the UK" doesn't. I guess there could be a very subtle rule at play, but blessed if I know it.

It's a shame we stopped bothering with genders in English. We lost a whole battlefield there

There's only one team. Multiple players in the team, but only one team, so Manchester United is....
I can see why this could be confusing though.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 19/07/2025 16:57

I'm pretty chilled about other people's mistakes because I'm certainly not perfect.

But it does get my goat when official communication has glaring errors.

I keep getting letters from my local hospital trust, informing me that they take no responsibility for any valuables 'bought' onto the premises 😐

CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/07/2025 16:59

I'm really risk adverse. I'm not adverse to the idea.

Can't actually speak when I think of this one....it's all over the place on MN.

HonoriaBulstrode · 19/07/2025 17:00

It actually slows down your ability to read and understand a paragraph if it's littered with grammatical and other errors.

Words have meanings. 'She was very definite about it' and 'she was very defiant about it' mean very different things.

Neemie · 19/07/2025 17:01

cyvguhb · 19/07/2025 14:41

I was going to post the same although you might find it rather repetitive as every thread seems to have to include the same old errors that I'm sure will be posted here

Although I can't remember ever hearing anyone say slither instead of sliver, I can't imagine it ever coming up in conversation, it is really something you come across on multiple occasions?

I sometimes do even though I know the difference. It comes up when you only want a small slice of cake. I sometimes get fewer and less wrong as well. I imagine that crops up quite a bit on these threads.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/07/2025 17:02

TwattyMcFuckFace · 19/07/2025 16:57

I'm pretty chilled about other people's mistakes because I'm certainly not perfect.

But it does get my goat when official communication has glaring errors.

I keep getting letters from my local hospital trust, informing me that they take no responsibility for any valuables 'bought' onto the premises 😐

It was when I started noticing regular errors in the BBC new tickers on the main evening news progammes that I knew we were doomed as a nation. 😆

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 19/07/2025 17:02

Discrete and discreet do not mean the same thing, they are not interchangeable spellings of the same word.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/07/2025 17:04

SerendipityJane · 19/07/2025 16:47

There seems to be a weird thing over plurals in some places that jars. Usually when you can treat a group as a single entity. E.g. "Manchester United are a football team based in the UK" to my ears sounds correct. "Manchester United is a football team based in the UK" doesn't. I guess there could be a very subtle rule at play, but blessed if I know it.

It's a shame we stopped bothering with genders in English. We lost a whole battlefield there

Would you say ‘The United States of America is…’ or ‘The United States of America are…’?

ConnieHeart · 19/07/2025 17:04

TwattyMcFuckFace · 19/07/2025 16:57

I'm pretty chilled about other people's mistakes because I'm certainly not perfect.

But it does get my goat when official communication has glaring errors.

I keep getting letters from my local hospital trust, informing me that they take no responsibility for any valuables 'bought' onto the premises 😐

Gosh yes, I used to make allowances for the dyslexic person who used to type up the minutes from our meeting but every week without fail there would be a serious mistake eg wrong surname of student, wrong spelling of first name, even wrong pronoun! It just showed that proofreading by another staff member never happened

LadyLindaT · 19/07/2025 17:05

All of them! Just all of them! I try to rise above it, though, else I would go insane!

Skippydoodle · 19/07/2025 17:06

So many people pronouncing specific/specifically as Pacific/Pacifically. It boils my blood.

dynamiccactus · 19/07/2025 17:07

There isn't enough room on the internet for my grammar/vocab peeves...but here are a few:

Gifted instead of given
Impact instead of affect
Likely will instead of Probably will or is likely to
Myself instead of me (or I)

dynamiccactus · 19/07/2025 17:07

CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/07/2025 17:02

It was when I started noticing regular errors in the BBC new tickers on the main evening news progammes that I knew we were doomed as a nation. 😆

Yes and using social media speak for things. Just because they can doesn't mean they should.

TamzinGrey · 19/07/2025 17:08

Off of.
Occasionally DH says it and it gives me the rage.

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