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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To invite the grammar and language pedants to share their pet peeves?

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AlertCat · 19/07/2025 14:33

AIBU to feel annoyed when I see people say Slither instead of sliver? It was even in a book I read recently. A slither of cake. No! That makes no sense, unless the cake’s been trodden into the carpet!

Also see: step foot in instead of set foot in

There’s plenty of others but those will do for now.

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 23/07/2025 21:19

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 23/07/2025 21:02

Another thing I find really jarring is when people put "needs" with a past tense verb. Usually it's on FB Marketplace and the post says "needs gone" or "needs cleaned" but I saw someone saying something "needs ironed" earlier. I detest it - partly because it's wrong and partly because I want to seller to clean the muck of the their highchair before I buy it, thank you very much!

I also dislike the current trend to use the word "prior" instead of "before". I don't think it's technically wrong but I think people believe it makes them sound cleverer. E.g "I had spoken to him six days prior" instead of "I had spoken to him six days before". I don't slhear people use it in conversation - only ever online.

It would be better to say "I had spoken to him six days earlier" rather than use the word "before", because "before" really sounds like it needs something adding to it eg "I had spoken to him six days before he died" or "...six days before he left".

Maybe "beforehand" would be acceptable. 😜😆

CurlyhairedAssassin · 23/07/2025 21:22

excelledyourself · 22/07/2025 23:01

Although usually not grammatically incorrect, the latest overused phrase doing my head in is “That being said” or “That said”.

It’s rife on here and often used by those using “myself” incorrectly.

I have heard it used incorrectly in too, mind you.

Can’t stand it!

Is "having said that...." acceptable to you?

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 23/07/2025 21:39

FreshAirForwards · 23/07/2025 18:09

It may well be regional, but “…going town…” really jars with me. Surely it should be going to town or going into town?

Also less/fewer, grrr.

I was in the middle of a complicated technical discussion with an IT salesperson in John Lewis today when they commented on something using 'fewer' instead of 'less' correctly. I was so delighted and gobsmacked that I missed the point of what they were saying. 😂

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 23/07/2025 21:42

And while I'm on here, 'per se'.

HonoriaBulstrode · 23/07/2025 21:51

'Per se' is correct. It's 'per say' that's wrong.

Which reminds me - 'persue', which is then autocorrected to 'peruse'.

And 'pour' for 'pore'. As in 'they poured over the document'. Makes me envisage a very soggy document.

excelledyourself · 23/07/2025 21:55

CurlyhairedAssassin · 23/07/2025 21:22

Is "having said that...." acceptable to you?

It’s slightly more acceptable than the two l mentioned.

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 23/07/2025 22:16

HonoriaBulstrode · 23/07/2025 21:51

'Per se' is correct. It's 'per say' that's wrong.

Which reminds me - 'persue', which is then autocorrected to 'peruse'.

And 'pour' for 'pore'. As in 'they poured over the document'. Makes me envisage a very soggy document.

It depends how it's used. 'As such' is another one. When used incorrectly they both leave me thinking 'wait a minute, what exactly are you referring back to?'

"I am a teacher; as such [a thing - namely, a 'teacher'], I mold young minds."
As opposed to, "The exams were administered later than planned; as such [As what, exactly?], the report cards will be delayed."

liverpoolnana · 24/07/2025 08:46

HonoriaBulstrode · 23/07/2025 21:51

'Per se' is correct. It's 'per say' that's wrong.

Which reminds me - 'persue', which is then autocorrected to 'peruse'.

And 'pour' for 'pore'. As in 'they poured over the document'. Makes me envisage a very soggy document.

It's 'pursue' not 'persue' so it's not that surprising that autocorrect changes it.

marshmallowfinder · 15/08/2025 14:31

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 23/07/2025 21:39

I was in the middle of a complicated technical discussion with an IT salesperson in John Lewis today when they commented on something using 'fewer' instead of 'less' correctly. I was so delighted and gobsmacked that I missed the point of what they were saying. 😂

Astonished, surely? I feel very uncomfortable about a fellow pedant using 'gobsmacked.'Blush

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 15/08/2025 14:49

@marshmallowfinder gobsmacked conveys that I was stopped in my tracks (or at least in my train of thought) in a way that purely astonished doesn't.

Beachtastic · 15/08/2025 19:20

I love the word gobsmacked!

English is a rich language, let's use it 😊

Serpentstooth · 15/08/2025 19:32

Off to hospital for a scan yesterday. Didn't have to wait long. Telescreen in waiting area 'please wait for your name to appear'. OK. At the bottom of the screen "You are sat in waiting area A". Grrrrr.

Rainydayinlondon · 15/08/2025 23:53

softlyfallsthesnow · 19/07/2025 16:06

Oh yes, I forgot to mention the Jaffa Cake controversy. I think they decided biscuit in the end?

No a cake as it gets hard when stale.

Biscuits get soft

Rainydayinlondon · 16/08/2025 00:07

On the theme of plurals, is it crocuses or croci?

(as in octopus / octopi)?

ASeriesOfTubes · 16/08/2025 00:20

Coup de grâce is not pronounced "coo de grar". Bugs the living daylights out of me.

Serpentstooth · 16/08/2025 07:54

This isn't incorrect but it makes me ponder and irritates me a little. I listen to far too much radio, fairly consistent background here. Every so often, a consumer affairs adviser will show up and aggrieved shoppers queue with complaints. All of them will have lost the ability to use the words 'buy' and 'bought'. Every faulty item will have been 'purchased'. How is this? I don't hear the word in everyday life, I dont think it's ever been said to me in general conversation and I doubt I've used it myself. What's going on with that? Is it just 'posh phone speak'? It's definitely a thing.

SerendipityJane · 16/08/2025 10:06

Rainydayinlondon · 16/08/2025 00:07

On the theme of plurals, is it crocuses or croci?

(as in octopus / octopi)?

Annoyingly, either is correct, I believe. (I am sure St. Susie explained).

English forms plurals by adding an "s". so if you are speaking English it's crocuses. Latin forms plurals by changing the ending depending on how the word is used (subject, object etc). The nominative plural for crocus thus becomes "croci". So if you are using "crocus" as a loanword, or a bit poncy "croci" is correct.

"Octopus" is Greek, so the plural is "octopodes". Only if finding someone who can speak Latin is rare, finding someone who can speak ancient Greek is rarer. So generally you are better off sticking to using the English forms that Almighty God theirself gave us. Although, they being said, I find "-ses" sound slightly clunky and prefer the "-i" ending. "locus"->"loci" for example.

SerendipityJane · 16/08/2025 10:11

Serpentstooth · 16/08/2025 07:54

This isn't incorrect but it makes me ponder and irritates me a little. I listen to far too much radio, fairly consistent background here. Every so often, a consumer affairs adviser will show up and aggrieved shoppers queue with complaints. All of them will have lost the ability to use the words 'buy' and 'bought'. Every faulty item will have been 'purchased'. How is this? I don't hear the word in everyday life, I dont think it's ever been said to me in general conversation and I doubt I've used it myself. What's going on with that? Is it just 'posh phone speak'? It's definitely a thing.

I can get irrationally annoyed with "pre-order", myself. You used to be able to reserve things.

Rainydayinlondon · 16/08/2025 12:02

Just read on another thread "London is a hot pot of different cultures".

Mental image of a large cauldron full of Londoners, topped with sliced potatoes

Rainydayinlondon · 16/08/2025 12:02

SerendipityJane · 16/08/2025 10:06

Annoyingly, either is correct, I believe. (I am sure St. Susie explained).

English forms plurals by adding an "s". so if you are speaking English it's crocuses. Latin forms plurals by changing the ending depending on how the word is used (subject, object etc). The nominative plural for crocus thus becomes "croci". So if you are using "crocus" as a loanword, or a bit poncy "croci" is correct.

"Octopus" is Greek, so the plural is "octopodes". Only if finding someone who can speak Latin is rare, finding someone who can speak ancient Greek is rarer. So generally you are better off sticking to using the English forms that Almighty God theirself gave us. Although, they being said, I find "-ses" sound slightly clunky and prefer the "-i" ending. "locus"->"loci" for example.

Love octopodes!!

imhavinghoops · 16/08/2025 12:45

Rogue apostrophes. My first name ends in an S, I get a lot o people throwing one in before it. Drives me potty.

Myself used incorrectly. It makes you look and sound stupid.

Tedsnan1 · 16/08/2025 13:23

Isittimeformynapyet · 19/07/2025 15:36

It's strange how these common errors seem to suddenly appear all over the place to me. I'm sure I didn't notice the he's/his abomination ten years ago. I keep seeing question marks and exclamation marks followed by a full stop these days too.

People are SO weirdly defensive about this subject. There's this myth that good written English is purely a preserve of the privileged upper classes - which is utter bollocks, frankly.

I completely agree. Working class girl here, grew up in a council house, though never really felt I fitted in.
I missed a lot of school due to illness so I know there are a few rules I don't know. But, those I know im quite aggressive about. In my head 😅.
Please correct as appropriate.

Tedsnan1 · 16/08/2025 13:32

verycloakanddaggers · 19/07/2025 15:49

Pedantry belongs in Pedants' Corner - if it has to exist at all.

Correcting other people's grammar etc. is a sign of bad manners, bad character, or a combination of the two.

I think pedantic posts criticising other posters should be deleted, they're just rude.

You're on the wrong thread.

Tedsnan1 · 16/08/2025 14:01

lazyarse123 · 19/07/2025 17:37

Not exactly grammar but on the news they were talking about the latest government scandal and the man kept saying "it mentions the SAS and Special Forces" . Omg I wanted to scream at the tv "they are the same fucking thing". I may have been a tad irritated.

Are they? I dated an ex soldier a few years ago. Met a couple of his army friends. They said they were Special Forces, but not SAS.

SerendipityJane · 16/08/2025 14:03

Tedsnan1 · 16/08/2025 14:01

Are they? I dated an ex soldier a few years ago. Met a couple of his army friends. They said they were Special Forces, but not SAS.

There's the SBS for a start.

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