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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To invite the grammar and language pedants to share their pet peeves?

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AlertCat · 19/07/2025 14:33

AIBU to feel annoyed when I see people say Slither instead of sliver? It was even in a book I read recently. A slither of cake. No! That makes no sense, unless the cake’s been trodden into the carpet!

Also see: step foot in instead of set foot in

There’s plenty of others but those will do for now.

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Internaut · 22/07/2025 09:10

thelakeisle · 21/07/2025 23:17

My pet peeve is when nasty, ill bred people on mumsnet abuse other people for grammar issues. Years ago, I worked with children with learning difficulties, and something I swiftly learned is that some of them were poor at spelling and grammar because it was how their minds worked, not because they weren't bright or trying hard enough.

Language is primarily for communication. Provided the person is communicating their meaning adquately, it is the absolute height of bad manners to correct someone on mumsnet on a mistake, and shows you were poorly raised.

Doesn't it bother you at least equally when people on MN abuse people for their failures in all sorts of different fields, e.g. childcare, parenting, relationships, housekeeping, driving, etc? It's so hypocritical that being uncomfortable with poor grammar is treated as a major crime on MN, yet you can be as offensive as you like about every other aspect of people's lives.

Notsosure1 · 22/07/2025 09:26

‘Pissed’ being used in the ‘pissed off’ context. You’re not American, unless you want to piss off of the sidewalk

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 09:39

Marmalady75 · 22/07/2025 05:36

I’m with you @Fleetheart I’ve always used “hit or miss” and so does everyone I know.

I am hit and miss and proud.

KimberleyClark · 22/07/2025 09:43

Would/could/should of. There’s a thread title with hat in right now.

AlertCat · 22/07/2025 09:47

ErrolTheDragon · 22/07/2025 08:34

I don’t know if the PP meant this thread. I’d agree that anyone abusing or mocking a poster on a thread for SPAG errors is being ill mannered, some posters are downright unkind and may warrant reporting for breaking MN guidelines. Sometimes it’s possible to unobtrusively model correct usage, as we naturally do with our own children.

Threads like this, OTOH, can act as a vent, and are perhaps an exception re mockery when Muphry’s Law pertains!

Yes, fair point wrt pp motives. Thanks and apologies to @thelakeisle if I got it wrong.

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TheMoonIsWensleydale · 22/07/2025 09:54

Carn’t just how???

ArsenicAlice · 22/07/2025 10:50

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 22/07/2025 08:52

@AlertCat are house?? are family?? what is this supposed to be?

This:

To invite the grammar and language pedants to share their pet peeves?
DisabledDemon · 22/07/2025 10:52

SerendipityJane · 22/07/2025 09:05

I suspect it's because it's used elsewhere with respect to education then.

You aren't over 16. You are a 16 or 17 year old. Which in relation to voting is a tautology. And I abhor them in a singularly unique way.

Now I'm going to howl (and probably get shouted at). I loved tautology and abhor but no, you can not have 'singularly' unique. Something is unique, one of a kind and anything more is redundant.

whatsthatbloodycatdonenow · 22/07/2025 10:52

Probably already mentioned but loose instead of lose.

DisabledDemon · 22/07/2025 10:54

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 22/07/2025 09:03

@DisabledDemon

The confusion over the aluminum/ aluminium spelling arose because of some uncharacteristic indecisiveness on Davy’s part. When he first isolated the element in 1808, he called it alumium. For some reason he thought better of that and changed it to aluminum four years later. Americans dutifully adopted the new term, but many British users disliked aluminum, pointing out that it disrupted the-ium pattern established by sodium, calcium and strontium, so they added a vowel and syllable. Among his other achievements, Davy also invented the miner’s safety lamp.”

— A Short History of Nearly Everything (Bryson Book 5) by Bill Bryson
https://read.amazon.co.uk/kp/kshare?asin=B0035OC7VI&id=2vsq2orfenbbzbxydn3wzvkjga

Well, at least he was useful for something!

HonoriaBulstrode · 22/07/2025 11:23

‘Pissed’ being used in the ‘pissed off’ context. You’re not American, unless you want to piss off of the sidewalk

I saw a discussion of this elsewhere. It was pointed out that 'that jock is pissed' has a completely different meaning depending on whether you're in the UK or the US.

Language is primarily for communication. Provided the person is communicating their meaning adquately,....

But often they aren't. One has to read two or three times to work out what is meant. And sometimes I just give up because it's too much bother.

JobhuntingDespair · 22/07/2025 11:58

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 22/07/2025 08:50

@AlertCat I kid you not, my dh has a legal office and regularly receives letters and emails from a legal company in another part of the country. the person writing those letters always says this! we sent yous documentation previously! legal occupation??? did they even go to school!

Edited

"Yous" is the plural "you", used in the North East.
I'm surprised an educated person uses such dialect in writing though.

SerendipityJane · 22/07/2025 12:08

DisabledDemon · 22/07/2025 10:52

Now I'm going to howl (and probably get shouted at). I loved tautology and abhor but no, you can not have 'singularly' unique. Something is unique, one of a kind and anything more is redundant.

It's true what they say about frogs and jokes dying when you dissect them.

look, just because I went to the local comp doesn't mean I didn't grasp the finer points of ancient humour (who doesn't love Juvenal) and it appealed to my juvenile sense of fun to say how much I detest a tautology whilst simultaneously using a tautology.

People had better get used to that sort of wordplay as "AI" starts to think it's witty.

HonoriaBulstrode · 22/07/2025 12:10

I kid you not, my dh has a legal office and regularly receives letters and emails from a legal company....

I recently had dealings with a solicitor, in connection with a house sale. One communication I had from him asked me to 'bare with...' His communications were also littered with grammar and punctuation errors.

I'm of an age when girls used to do secretarial training. Legal secretary used to be seen as the top job, because such high standards of accuracy were required.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 22/07/2025 12:17

The spelling and grammar errors from my son’s teachers never fails to irritate me.
It just smacks of unprofessionalism, and it takes every bit of restraint i posses - not to tell them.

And they’ve also doled out homework that was incorrect. I know they get their teaching materials from Twinkl, but, man alive - check it first!

SerendipityJane · 22/07/2025 12:31

HonoriaBulstrode · 22/07/2025 12:10

I kid you not, my dh has a legal office and regularly receives letters and emails from a legal company....

I recently had dealings with a solicitor, in connection with a house sale. One communication I had from him asked me to 'bare with...' His communications were also littered with grammar and punctuation errors.

I'm of an age when girls used to do secretarial training. Legal secretary used to be seen as the top job, because such high standards of accuracy were required.

Nothing funnier (or sadder) than reading a cv littered with spelling mistakes that boasts "attention to detail".

I've had some quite amusing debates over this. Personally I bin them. Not because I give a shit about the candidates SPAG skills (which the less bright assume). But simply if you can't be arsed to press "F7" before you send off one of the most important documents in your working life, then you - my friend - aren't the person for me.

SPAG in the IT community (much like handwriting 😀) doesn't really reach a high average. I am very much an outlier (or freak ....)

DisabledDemon · 22/07/2025 12:58

SerendipityJane · 22/07/2025 12:08

It's true what they say about frogs and jokes dying when you dissect them.

look, just because I went to the local comp doesn't mean I didn't grasp the finer points of ancient humour (who doesn't love Juvenal) and it appealed to my juvenile sense of fun to say how much I detest a tautology whilst simultaneously using a tautology.

People had better get used to that sort of wordplay as "AI" starts to think it's witty.

What - do you think I'm an AI?

SerendipityJane · 22/07/2025 13:36

DisabledDemon · 22/07/2025 12:58

What - do you think I'm an AI?

You'll have to show your working as to how you inferred that from my - admittedly elliptical - comment. I wonder if anyone else read that meaning ?

RitaIncognita · 22/07/2025 13:36

Internaut · 22/07/2025 09:10

Doesn't it bother you at least equally when people on MN abuse people for their failures in all sorts of different fields, e.g. childcare, parenting, relationships, housekeeping, driving, etc? It's so hypocritical that being uncomfortable with poor grammar is treated as a major crime on MN, yet you can be as offensive as you like about every other aspect of people's lives.

It's possible to be bothered by more than one type of rudeness on MN. The poster was not commenting on people who are bothered by incorrect grammar, but on the rudeness of posters correcting other posters, when often errors are the result of learning difficulties.

As a result of my having walked the long walk toward basic literacy with my now adult child who has significant learning difficulties, I think I can usually spot a poster whose mistakes result from dyslexia and related difficulties. Posters who correct them are not doing them a favor; they are instead displaying ableist attitudes that unfortunately are as prevalent on MN as they are in society at large.

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 22/07/2025 13:47

I brought a house (where the heck did this come from? It isn't even a typo)

I defiantly want a piece of cake (this one always makes me laugh, the mental image of someone standing up, slamming their fist on the table and insisting with defiance they WILL have their cake!)

Plutonic relationship (with a Martian clearly!)

Beastiality (I guess this one makes logical sense, at least)

AlertCat · 22/07/2025 13:49

@RitaIncognita i would tend to agree with you, the only exception being if the poster’s meaning is obscured by the mistake and clarification is needed.

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Beachtastic · 22/07/2025 14:03

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 22/07/2025 13:47

I brought a house (where the heck did this come from? It isn't even a typo)

I defiantly want a piece of cake (this one always makes me laugh, the mental image of someone standing up, slamming their fist on the table and insisting with defiance they WILL have their cake!)

Plutonic relationship (with a Martian clearly!)

Beastiality (I guess this one makes logical sense, at least)

Edited

I'm defiantly going to do that next time I want a piece of cake!

pigsDOfly · 22/07/2025 15:01

CurlyhairedAssassin · 21/07/2025 17:55

What kind of books are people reading that the writing is so poor?

Well, in the case of the book I'm reading at the moment it's a perfectly ordinary, so called, 'thriller' from the library.

I must admit, it's a bit feeble - Tolstoy it isn't - and it certainly isn't thrilling me, but it readable I suppose.

Unfortunately, 'was stood, was sat and so on seems to be everywhere now, both in writing and speech. It tends to go with the use of 'I' used when me is required, and 'yourself/myself' when you and me is required.

Abitofalark · 22/07/2025 15:28

SerendipityJane · 22/07/2025 08:29

Since this thread is running, can anyone explain the sudden fetish for saying "16 and 17 year olds will get the vote" rather than the much more succinct and less clunky "lower the voting age to 16" ?

Or are we seeing a brave new world where will say that "anyone aged 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 .....". ?

I haven't heard or noticed this before but I'm thinking it is intended to be explanatory. It is making explicit what the change involves. A listener or viewer would have to know the current voting age threshold to glean that information from the other phrase.

Is this the same thinking that lies behind the phrase 'one-year, two-year etc anniversary' which I've noticed only recently, where I would say 'first, second etc anniversary'? Is it assumed that readers might not know the meaning of 'anniversary' so they spell it out?

Abitofalark · 22/07/2025 15:50

HonoriaBulstrode · 22/07/2025 12:10

I kid you not, my dh has a legal office and regularly receives letters and emails from a legal company....

I recently had dealings with a solicitor, in connection with a house sale. One communication I had from him asked me to 'bare with...' His communications were also littered with grammar and punctuation errors.

I'm of an age when girls used to do secretarial training. Legal secretary used to be seen as the top job, because such high standards of accuracy were required.

I had a solicitor, recently qualified, who was confused about 'formerly' and 'formally'. It was embarrassing.

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