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WWYD - I want to return these shorts but realised I didn’t pay

217 replies

Aneena · 18/07/2025 06:43

Bought some shorts in the sale at a supermarket a few days ago. I tried them on at home and they didn’t fit well so I want to return them. Now I have got out the receipt I realise somehow I haven’t paid for them? Honestly no idea how as I could have sworn they were scanned. I am absolutely mortified

I really want to just bring them back to customer services and explain. I want to buy them in a different size if they still have them so I would be giving them back and spending money on top of that - so surely that would show I haven’t done it on purpose.

I am just so paranoid they will think I have done it purposefully and now I’m only bringing them back because they don’t fit. Am I massively overthinking this?

YANBU - yeah they will think you’re a thief
YABU - just take them back

OP posts:
grumpygrape · 18/07/2025 18:48

CrushingOnRubies · 18/07/2025 18:28

This is what I would do.

But it’s not about the OP being better or worse off, it’s about intentionally depriving the shop of the goods or payment which is theft.

If she takes them back and explains then she isn’t a thief and the charity shop don’t get stolen goods.

grumpygrape · 18/07/2025 18:51

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 18/07/2025 18:33

This. Why tie yourself up in knots trying to explain to the staff?

Giving them to a charity shop knowingly, permanently deprives Tesco of the goods/value which would make OP a thief.

It really isn’t a difficult concept to describe to the shop staff.

CrushingOnRubies · 18/07/2025 18:54

grumpygrape · 18/07/2025 18:48

But it’s not about the OP being better or worse off, it’s about intentionally depriving the shop of the goods or payment which is theft.

If she takes them back and explains then she isn’t a thief and the charity shop don’t get stolen goods.

If it was a small local independent business I would agree. A massive multinational supermarket chain which has multi million pounds in profit not so much.

TheignT · 18/07/2025 18:56

When I had my youngest as a baby in the pram I went into Boots. Can't remember what I wanted that they hadn't got but I did walk out brandishing the toothbrushes I was going to buy. I realised what I'd done and ran back. They laughed as I was in such a state but my husband was the inspector on duty at the local police station and I was picturing his face as I was brought in under arrest.

Just take them to customer services, hopefully they won't laugh at you.

Praying4Peace · 18/07/2025 18:59

AnOldCynic · 18/07/2025 06:52

@JMSAof course she can do that, its not embarrassing, everyone makes mistakes.

This
Reassuring that honesty still prevails for the majority

657904I · 18/07/2025 19:06

grumpygrape · 18/07/2025 15:48

I may be wrong but I don’t think there has been a theft so far; nothing has been stolen. ‘Theft’ and ‘stolen’ both incorporate the concept of intention to permanently deprive the owner, and not return the item.

OP didn’t intend to deprive Tesco of the item; she thought she had paid, until such time as she checked the receipt.

If she now gives the shorts to a charity, she would be intentionally, permanently depriving Tesco of them and could reasonably be considered to have stolen them and being a thief. Also possibly putting the burden of handling stolen goods on to the charity....

If, however, if the does the moral and honest thing and takes them back to the shop and explains, it is obvious she has no intention of permanently depriving Tesco of the shorts. As previous posters have said, the Customer Service staff will probably not even turn a hair.

Go on, OP, put your big girl (M&S ?) pants on and do the right thing; one less thing to worry about 😊

Oh, and to all those posters banging on about big businesses being able to afford to lose the money for the shorts or landfilling by dumping clothes, that is not relevant to the issue.

I think you are wrong, the offence has already been made out and was valid as soon as they left the shop without payment. Especially if OP used self checkouts.

If theft from a shop/shoplifting requires shops to wait a few weeks to see if the items are returned to them, why do they call the police or ban people at the time of the offence?

grumpygrape · 18/07/2025 19:15

657904I · 18/07/2025 19:06

I think you are wrong, the offence has already been made out and was valid as soon as they left the shop without payment. Especially if OP used self checkouts.

If theft from a shop/shoplifting requires shops to wait a few weeks to see if the items are returned to them, why do they call the police or ban people at the time of the offence?

OP has quite clearly said she thought they had been scanned and if she had discovered she hadn’t paid for them (even if they had fitted) she would have paid for them. She is showing she did not have intent to permanently deprive the shop of the goods/value.

I’m not sure what your second paragraph regarding waiting a few weeks means. OP wasn’t stopped by security staff and Police were not called. OP made a genuine mistake and was asking how MNers would handle the situation.

ConnieHeart · 18/07/2025 19:20

657904I · 18/07/2025 19:06

I think you are wrong, the offence has already been made out and was valid as soon as they left the shop without payment. Especially if OP used self checkouts.

If theft from a shop/shoplifting requires shops to wait a few weeks to see if the items are returned to them, why do they call the police or ban people at the time of the offence?

Because they are caught shoplifting, presumably

657904I · 18/07/2025 19:28

grumpygrape · 18/07/2025 19:15

OP has quite clearly said she thought they had been scanned and if she had discovered she hadn’t paid for them (even if they had fitted) she would have paid for them. She is showing she did not have intent to permanently deprive the shop of the goods/value.

I’m not sure what your second paragraph regarding waiting a few weeks means. OP wasn’t stopped by security staff and Police were not called. OP made a genuine mistake and was asking how MNers would handle the situation.

Your first paragraph isn’t a defence to the crime though. The crime was made out when the goods were taken out of the shop without payment. By all means you might not think it’s a serious crime, but denying that a crime has occurred is just manipulating the facts. You can’t say, “my mind felt differently to my actions.”

The second paragraph is pointing out the limitations of your logic, if it’s apparently not a crime until the shop can proves “intent to permanently deprive the shop of the goods/value” then why do shops apprehend there and then? They don’t wait a few weeks “just in case” it was a “genuine mistake”.

BeNiceorBeQuiet · 18/07/2025 20:02

I'm paranoid and worry too, I once went to a supermarket and walking round realised I had a packet in my bag for lunch at work, I circled back round and took the packet from my bag and left it on a shelf in case they randomly asked to do a bag search, I've never stolen anything in my life but I'm such a worrier it seemed like the best solution. 🤣 I probably looked far more suspicious trying to leave the packet than I would just going about my business as normal

BeNiceorBeQuiet · 18/07/2025 20:02

I'm paranoid and worry too, I once went to a supermarket and walking round realised I had a packet in my bag for lunch at work, I circled back round and took the packet from my bag and left it on a shelf in case they randomly asked to do a bag search, I've never stolen anything in my life but I'm such a worrier it seemed like the best solution. 🤣 I probably looked far more suspicious trying to leave the packet than I would just going about my business as normal

DollydaydreamTheThird · 18/07/2025 20:05

Am I bad for thinking this?.....buy the correct size sell the others on vinted. 🤣My Vinted obsession is obviously worse than I thought. 🤔

grumpygrape · 18/07/2025 20:05

657904I · 18/07/2025 19:28

Your first paragraph isn’t a defence to the crime though. The crime was made out when the goods were taken out of the shop without payment. By all means you might not think it’s a serious crime, but denying that a crime has occurred is just manipulating the facts. You can’t say, “my mind felt differently to my actions.”

The second paragraph is pointing out the limitations of your logic, if it’s apparently not a crime until the shop can proves “intent to permanently deprive the shop of the goods/value” then why do shops apprehend there and then? They don’t wait a few weeks “just in case” it was a “genuine mistake”.

What crime do you think the OP has committed?

SupposesRoses · 18/07/2025 20:58

Tiffypops · 18/07/2025 16:06

Don't say a word, they couldn't give a hoot about your good morals, just go and buy the right size.

When people behave honestly in a situation like this, they don't do it to live up to the shop's moral standards or because of what strangers on MN would think of them but to live up to their own. They know what they did, even if nobody in the world would ever find out and they were guaranteed to get away with it.

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 19/07/2025 07:31

SupposesRoses · 18/07/2025 20:58

When people behave honestly in a situation like this, they don't do it to live up to the shop's moral standards or because of what strangers on MN would think of them but to live up to their own. They know what they did, even if nobody in the world would ever find out and they were guaranteed to get away with it.

@SupposesRoses

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

GRex · 19/07/2025 07:36

Maraudingmarauders · 18/07/2025 06:46

I would just go in and go to customer service and say “hey, I have no idea how it’s happened, but in looking to return these shorts I can see they aren’t on my receipt. I can’t think how it’s happened. Anyway, please can I give them back?” And then once that’s done, go and get some new shorts and go and buy them through a normal till. They rent giving you money for the “stolen” shorts so it’s not like you’re trying to con them out of anything.

This. No idea why people are trying to make it so complicated or avoid putting the error straight. If there was a queue though then I might get the shorts out at the rack, swap for the bigger pair and go to pay without discussion.

GRex · 19/07/2025 07:38

657904I · 18/07/2025 19:28

Your first paragraph isn’t a defence to the crime though. The crime was made out when the goods were taken out of the shop without payment. By all means you might not think it’s a serious crime, but denying that a crime has occurred is just manipulating the facts. You can’t say, “my mind felt differently to my actions.”

The second paragraph is pointing out the limitations of your logic, if it’s apparently not a crime until the shop can proves “intent to permanently deprive the shop of the goods/value” then why do shops apprehend there and then? They don’t wait a few weeks “just in case” it was a “genuine mistake”.

OP did not intend to deprive the shop of anything, so it is not a crime. Unless she then keeps the shorts without offering to pay more she knows, then it's intentional deprivation.

NeedWineNow · 19/07/2025 08:29

I’m in the camp of going to Customer Services and telling them the truth. They may say nothing doing or offer you a credit note or straight exchange but at least you’ll know where you stand.

SENNeeds2 · 19/07/2025 08:44

You don’t have to take them back - just buy the pair on the right size. You are no worse off financially - unless you are disappointed you got them for ‘free’ but they are not free if you now have to buy a bigger pair?

TwoPointOh · 19/07/2025 08:47

SENNeeds2 · 19/07/2025 08:44

You don’t have to take them back - just buy the pair on the right size. You are no worse off financially - unless you are disappointed you got them for ‘free’ but they are not free if you now have to buy a bigger pair?

She wants to take them back. She knows she’s not worse off financially, that’s not her issue. She’s not disappointed.

PuppyMonkey · 19/07/2025 09:02

I’m in the “just bring them back to the shop and put them back on the rail” camp. What’s with the insistence that you HAVE to inform customer services about your mistake? Grin

Smidge001 · 19/07/2025 09:36

Just take them back to the shop and put them on the rail! Simple. No need to inform anyone.
Then pick up the size you want and buy them.

intrepidpanda · 19/07/2025 10:00

Plead ignorance. Take them back and say you don't have the receipt but you just want a swap. So long as labels were on you may not need the receipt.
It was a mistake, it's done, don't overcomplicate.

Smidge001 · 19/07/2025 11:02

intrepidpanda · 19/07/2025 10:00

Plead ignorance. Take them back and say you don't have the receipt but you just want a swap. So long as labels were on you may not need the receipt.
It was a mistake, it's done, don't overcomplicate.

That's knowledgeable theft. What she did originally was accidental. She can rectify that and sleep at night by just putting the shorts back on the shelves. She's willing to pay for the right size (as she, and anyone with half decent morals should be!). Why are you encouraging her to take them for free? Not just you - clearly I can see many other posts suggesting similar, but I'm so shocked at how many people think that's OK.

Tiffypops · 19/07/2025 17:12

Who mentioned the shops moral standards ? Not I.