explain Mounjaro to me

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HIya

I have lost 5 stone through calorie defecit and my BMR means my defecit now brings my daily calories down to 1200 to lose weight
(I know the Maths is right)

I've been plateaued for a year (I'd like to lose 2 more stone) but it just won't shift (I'm 50)
I watched a weight coach talking about how low calorie will stop working as the body will adapt, but I was wondering how does Mounjaro work then?
Doesn't that just make you not want to eat as much , therefore low cal?
If I tried it for this last bit would it work?

I have been on mj since March and I have lost three stone.
Before mj I was diagnosed with an under active thyroid and coeliac. In the past 8 years I have been an on and off sahm so loneliness crept in and I ate out of boredom.
Mj has been a game changer for me, I no longer sit down with a couple of packets of crisps
I reach for more protein filled things. I am still hungry on 7.5 so I have three set meals, whereas before I'd just snack whenever. Making dinner, I'd have a snack while making it but all that has stopped

As the weight came off, running became easier. I have managed a 5k run and I am someone who hates running

I'm only 5'3 so still classed as overweight but I'm staying on 7.5 for a while longer as I've had some bad sickness some days

I think there are a tremendous number of women who have heard this 2000 approx calories a day thing and don’t realise that height/ lifestyle etc play a huge part in determining your maintenance calories. Too many of us are/were eating too many calories.

I’ve been on it just under a month and lost 10lbs so far. I still get hungry at mealtimes and still enjoy a meal out - I just no longer fill time with food or snacking and I’m fuller earlier in the meal so I eat less. Sometimes I finish a dinner at home, sometimes I don’t. I’ll have between 900 and 1,400 calories a day. Been the best decision to take it

Just to clarify, any VLC diet will support weightloss, (I'm not talking 300 a day, more like 1,000).

MJ just gives you a 'tool kit' that makes adhering to that, which creates slow steady weight and over time, builds to significant losses.

(5 stone in 10 months)

It's the same with all diets and methods of weight loss. Formerly obese people are likely to regain the weight when they stop following it, and there's no diet that the majority of formerly obese people have been shown to stick at enough to avoid weight gain. The pp is correct, WLIs are the same as traditional diets in this respect.

Worth pointing out also that 2 stone can easily be the difference between a healthy and obese BMI. You just have to be short. I assume you know that someone with a BMI of 30 may well be having their health affected already, and if not they're at risk of it?

For a menopausal quite short woman who is not massively active, it’s unlikely they would lose weight on much more than 1,200. If I am dieting I like a little flexibility at the weekend so would rather do 1,200 x 5 and 1,600 x 2 etc than have 1,300 each day.

For me, it stopped the food “noise” and constant emotional / comfort eating. The desire just went away. I didn’t think about it.

I was worried I’d stop enjoying the food I did eat but that wasn’t the case at all. I enjoyed my meals just as much. I just didn’t reach for half a packet of biscuits or a family bag of revels the minute I felt stressed.

1200 calories would have me putting on a stone a year being menopausal and short.

Honestly why can’t people just understand that everyone is different.

So you have quoted “fact” based one what you’ve seen on YouTube? This isn’t actual medical fact then, just your (wrong) opinion on something you watched online? Ok then.

The number of people who see things on YouTube and blindly believe them, is scary. Thats why we’ve so many antivaxxers. They’ve all done their research on YouTube…

Just to add, if I saw a thread asking for opinions on a medication I didn’t use, I’d not bother to open the thread, because I’d have nothing to add. I certainly wouldn’t think that anyone should hear me spout bollocks about the medication I had no experience of that I’d seen a random YouTube video about that I’d taken as gospel. People are weird.

Absolutely agree. The misinformation is wild on these type of threads let alone the rest of the internet / the daily fail. Side effect scaremongering for one. The amount of misuse of these drugs is going to mean the “side effects” are exacerbated by people who are only eating 300 calories a day and / or lying about their weight to get prescribed. Boils my piss to be quite honest! Happy Friday 🤣

Hi,
i was wondering how many calories you were on and how did you journey continued? I lost a bit at the beginning but worry that, like you, I am not eating enough and will stop losing after a while. Many thanks

I am definitely a slow loser. Been on it since January and lost one stone. But less cravings for grease. Little to no interest in takeaways and reduced inflammation.

@SylvanianFamiliesBalcony That is such a low level of fuel a day. How do you manage? I would think you would burn more than you are eating.

Everyone here seems to have had slightly different experiences on WLI’s and a lot of then sound very unhealthy indeed. What happens when you come off it? Isn’t it the case that the weight piles back on?
Does anyone seriously want to be on this drug forever? I genuinely am shocked at how these jabs are being hailed as the cure for obesity.

The “weight coach” is incorrect. If you’re in a calorie deficit, you will lose fat.
Starvation mode is a myth. We don’t adapt which is why it is possible to starve to death.

Yes I plan to stay on them forever, just like I will stay on other medications I take forever. If I don’t I will probably puke the weight back on. Not to mention increase my risk of heart disease, stoke, cancer and diabetic related issues. It would see a return of my sleep apnea and inflammation pain and almost certainly sink me back into a depression that I struggled with for over 25 years. Why on earth would i not continue with a treatment that tackled all of those life threatening issues long term?

Why are you shocked that a drug that cures obesity being hailed as a cure for obesity?

I don’t get why people are so judgemental about WLI. People pay for them themselves, end up costing NHS less as they are less likely to get diabetes etc and seem happy with their decision. I can’t wait to start them.

Do you have a better idea?

It’s ignorance, jealousy or just plain spite usually.

If people are ignorant that’s ok, if they are willing to learn, but the other 2, well there is no helping those.

For me it just made it possible to stick to 1,200 a day to lose the last bit. However, at higher dose it can enable you to eat less still.

Although your BMR drops as your weight drops there is no such thing as “starvation mode”. If you eat say 700 calories a day you will lose weight.

There are risks associated with losing weight quickly in that too much of it could be muscle. Losing 10% of the weight as muscle is ok, losing 25% or is not.

Because hunger is suppressed, it’s possible to eat very little. That’s why the advice is to proiritise protein and lift weights.

Why yes, can’t you just eat less and move more?

(I'm being sarcastic btw!)

I’ve still enjoyed food as much as before but I feel full quickly and the feeling of fullness lasts much longer. I still look forward to eating but I don’t crave really unhealthy foods like before.

I am on Mounjaro - was on Ozempic but my cardiologist wanted me to switch so we gave that a go.

It's reduced a lot, not all, of the food noise. It's reduced a lot of the permanent hunger.

It's made sticking to a 1000 ish cal. day diet feasible.

It has reduced the amount of insulin I need to take from 30 units long acting/90+ units fast acting daily, to around 14 units/10 units (I say around as I have just gone up a dose this week and not sure yet what that new figure will be).

That change is huge because its taken me from stacking on lymphedema to losing that AND losing fat as well. I don't yet know what the weight loss is as I have been housebound for the last 18 months so have not been weighed, fingers x in the next week or so ill be able to get out (ramps and doors being done this week/next week) but:

• I fit in my chair much better
• my clothing sizes have gone down
• mobility/reach has improved

SO whilst I have not lost a miraculous 10/20 stone in the over a year ive been on these meds (NHS provided so ive had to fight for EVERY dose increase super hard) they have still been an absolute miracle for me.

I'm glad you added your second sentence!