16 & 17 year olds to be given the vote

[Whereishenow]

Just seen this announcement on BBC now. Amazing news!!! Now we just need to try and get youngsters out USING those votes.

What promises haven’t they kept? You’ve been provided a very nice link to help you.

Yes. I have simply pointed out it is hilarious that he chooses to deliver on the pledge that will help him stay in power whilst ignoring the more pressing issues.

This!!

I think it’s good. It’s done in Scottish elections. Some people just miss out on voting if an election is right before they turn 18. I can’t see it having much of an effect in terms of who’s in government but hopefully helps some young people feel involved.

This thread proves stupidity isn't restricted to under 18 yr olds.

That’s just an opinion blog. Yet it’s linked often by Labour on mn

Does it have higher unemployment, negative growth for last two announcements and inflation going up plus welfare cuts?

Aw go on, you’re so Labour. Hilarious if wasn’t so regretful. ❤️

Feel free to counter it with evidence of your own then

Go to latest inflation figures, unemployment and growth. All recent and easily available. Listen to headlines which covers them. And coverage of welfare cuts.

None of that is a counter response to manifesto fulfilment. Try again.

It is independent.

It's tracking manifesto promises, including compromised ones. Why do you have an issue with facts?

Calm down 😏

I think the kids most likely to support Reform won’t bother voting, which is what Labour are counting on

Counter what? A bunch of opinions collected on who knows what criteria on an “independent hobby site"?

There is no solid or factual data, you might as well try to counter a fart.

Haha people should try ONS and employment / inflation / growth data instead

Well then, aren't you pleased that they have kept this one?

Of course not. However, what I did not expect in this relatively short amount of time was the level of lies and U-Turns. I don't think anyone did.

Right so if I put together website with a bunch of pretty coloured bar graphs as a hobby, I can post them here, claim it as objective fact and demand you provide “counter facts”?

Its nonsense.

Use real data or accept its just advertising.

This is the best news. They are voting for things that will effect their young adult life - they'll be 20 by the next election and the decisions made by the government they have been part of the vote for will impact their first jobs / education / uni choices etc.

No taxation without representation.

They can pay tax, they should get a vote.

I find the politicians’ arguments irritating though. All pretending it’s on principle that they either support or disagree with it. When we all know that if 16/17 yr olds polled right wing, Labour would have a fundamental disagreement with it, and the Tories would have done already it in the last 10 yrs.

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

Of course not because I think giving the vote to 16 year olds is ridiculous and the only reason he is doing it is to stay in power.

What mistake is that?

Such a bad idea. They are children with brains and views which are a long way from being fully formed. Marriage age should be raised to 18 not other things brought down to 16. 21 was a better age for gaining the right to vote.

Labour are in power until 2029, so right now they don't have to do anything to stay in power.

Even if every single 16/17 votes Labour at the next GE, it won't be enough to keep Labour in power if the majoroty of the rest of the electorate want them out. 16/17 year olds are out numbered by the grey vote for a start.