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To think Religious education in schools should be replaced by AI education

274 replies

IsitRainin · 15/07/2025 17:48

Looking at how quickly AI is advancing, our education system needs to be overhauled.
There's no benefit of subjects like Religious education in today's world and people can learn about it from their family. This should be replaced by AI studies and other STEM subjects which will prepare the Children to be ready and up to date with future advancement and at par with children from China, USA and rest of the world.

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frozendaisy · 15/07/2025 18:30

It’s harder enough teaching teenagers basic algebra a lot of the time, have a go @IsitRainin before you and your school mum friends start making demands on trained professional teachers.

It’s parents like this that makes teachers leave you know.

Schools welcome professional speakers, have you considered doing that @IsitRainin? Being in the AI trade, inspire some ambition?

Have you considered being part of the solution at all?

TheLudditesWereRight · 15/07/2025 18:34

if you mean teach kids all the many reasons why AI is shite and they should be steering well clear, I am in. Otherwise bin RE and make MFL compulsory again.

Tudorduxbury · 15/07/2025 18:40

The ethics of AI would be an interesting topic for RE, especially the environmental effects. What’s your view on that op ?

IthasYes · 15/07/2025 18:41

@Sodthesystem 100 agree there on philosophy I think it should be compulsory but not so much region stuffs

Screamingabdabz · 15/07/2025 18:43

So let’s put an end to acquiring knowledge and wisdom and just get children to manipulate the scrapings of inaccurate and biased information already available on the internet. And if we are modelling the Chinese system, we’ll just steal intellectual property and aim for economic global domination with a generous sprinkling of horrendous human rights abuses.

What a dream for all our children! Genius idea! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

TheLudditesWereRight · 15/07/2025 18:43

it’s to foster respect for opposing views and beliefs and encourages healthy debate

It's not working very well then is it?

There's no reason for RE to be a whole-ass subject. You can cover the fundamentals of the major world religions in about six hours. Developing MFL and a proper Erasmus type scheme for international school exchanges would do much for for mutual understanding.

ItsameLuigi · 15/07/2025 18:45

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/07/2025 17:56

Religion isn't shoved down children's throats in school RE lessons. They learn about the religions and systems of ethics that have formed our societies over thousands of tears

Yup, I left school in 2013 and can remember learning about different religions yet I'm still not religious. In primary I remember visiting different holy buildings, never convinced me to turn religious 😂

Tudorduxbury · 15/07/2025 18:48

I work in a town that had its mosque attacked last summer. I teach Muslim children who were too scared to leave their houses. As a result we’ve done a lot of work through RE on intolerance, prejudice and promoting respect. Most of our pupils were horrified by what happened.

But yeah, useless subject where we force religion down kids throats

TheLudditesWereRight · 15/07/2025 18:52

Presumably the mosque was attacked by people who sat through compulsory RE at school. So much for it teaching tolerance.

legolegoeverywhereandnotadroptodrink · 15/07/2025 18:53

Oh yeah. Whilst at it, let’s drop History as that’s all in the past

Do we honestly need maths and English? Don’t need those skills now. We can use chatgpt for anything we need

Tudorduxbury · 15/07/2025 18:54

TheLudditesWereRight · 15/07/2025 18:52

Presumably the mosque was attacked by people who sat through compulsory RE at school. So much for it teaching tolerance.

Seriously ? I work in Southport. No need for that comment

TheLudditesWereRight · 15/07/2025 18:57

@tudorduxbury I am very sorry for the evil that befell your local community.

Bluevelvetsofa · 15/07/2025 18:57

OP, why are you refusing to acknowledge that your perception of RE, Philosophy and Ethics taught in schools, is not accurate?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/07/2025 18:58

In your opinion. I think religion is important to many people and should continue in religious schools.
Open more non religion schools for those who wish to opt it.
It is part of our culture too.
AI idestroying the planet, human beings need real life connection. We're already suffering from an epidemic in loneliness.

Tudorduxbury · 15/07/2025 19:00

I’m bowing out, I’ve said my piece. I don’t need to justify my job and all the work we’ve been doing to help our town heal this past year.

mondaytosunday · 15/07/2025 19:01

Learn what exactly? How to use it? We use it all the time. It’s job specific application will surely be taught with that subject/qualification.

FrippEnos · 15/07/2025 19:04

IsitRainin · 15/07/2025 17:59

Yes, it's way better than UK education system. They have got all the amazing AI companies like OpenAI etc. They are leading all the tech advancements and innovation while we are sat here teaching religion.

You have no idea about what the average american school is like.
Nor the wide ranging gaps in poverty across the USA.

GasPanic · 15/07/2025 19:08

I thought religious education is more about understanding religion as a whole and therefore other cultures which is surely a great benefit.

You don't want to educate kids in things like finance, banking and mortgages. You want useful idiots to carry on stoking the debt levels and keeping the system going.

If they realise what is going on there then there will be a riot. See the quote by Henry Ford. The whole pyramid scheme relies on peoples ignorance.

Jambolaya · 15/07/2025 19:11

IsitRainin · 15/07/2025 18:03

Even China has better education system than ours. People who are calling me troll are just so delusional that they can't accept that other countries have better education systems and better workforce than ours.

EVEN CHINA???!!!!

Can you imagine that.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 15/07/2025 19:14

The relentless pushing of AI this and AI that is very resonant of cult like thinking in and of itself.

Religion is intertwined with history, art, geography, culture etc etc whether we "believe" or not. As a PP said it's contextual and also is a useful tool in psychological study.

Given the prevalence of technology in school and I assume the courses already running in the curriculum, if we're lagging behind it's not because an hour a week is spent on explaining why we celebrate Christmas, why there's a gurdwara at the end of the road, and how Diwali is important to Hindus, it's because IT teaching needs to be updated accordingly.

Disclaimer - am a neo-Luddite with grave reservations about our "brave new world" with it's psychological and environmental impacts, especially with regard to AI.

Milkmani8 · 15/07/2025 19:21

Never used Chatgpt and the like but colleagues are always ‘running things through it’ just to be sure their work is okay. I think it’s ridding people of critical thinking and creativity. Everyday life is becoming for like the film Idiocracy. Maybe I’m old fashioned by my children go to one of the top 10 state schools in the country - it’s a catholic school. My children are with other children whose parents believe in having a moral education and principles. Today’s society and culture leaves a lot to be desired, there seems to be a lack of moral compass.

ObelixtheGaul · 15/07/2025 19:23

I am an atheist, but my personal lack of belief is no reason not to teach children about something that has had such a massive sociological and political impact on our culture, and cultures around the world.

It's not taught as a form of indoctrination at non-faith led schools. It isn't about belief, it's about the history and culture that has shaped the world we live in, whether we believe or not. It has informed the decisions of former rulers and influenced laws. It continues to do so today to a greater or lesser extent depending on nationality.

Education should never be merely about practical use in the adult working world. It needs to broaden our understanding of who we are and where we came from, the world outside our own bubble, why others do as they do, etc.

Religion is intrinsically linked to both our past and our present, despite increasing secularism of the individual in our own nation. It isn't an irrelevancy.

terracelane23 · 15/07/2025 19:26

IsitRainin · 15/07/2025 17:52

With increasing numbers of people identifying as non religious and atheist, there is no benefit of shoving religion down young children's throats.
We need to teach kids about AI and STEM, which will lead to something useful in their lives.

RE in schools does not shove religion down children’s throats. It does a huge amount more than reach about religions. Religion, religious issues and ethics are in the news every single day. There’s a tremendous value in children discussing them and learning the views of others.

TheLudditesWereRight · 15/07/2025 19:40

Loads of countries don't have RE as a separate mandatory subject. I have yet to see a decent argument for it being one in the UK.