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AIBU to think employers aren’t going nearly far enough with adjustments and that ableist attitudes are still totally normalised?

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coffeeandmycats · 14/07/2025 18:09

I’m honestly so fed up with how “reasonable adjustments” are treated like some kind of special favour or workplace charity. They’re not. They’re a legal duty under the Equality Act, and they exist because without them, disabled people are shut out of employment or slowly squeezed out once they’re in.
Every time someone says “we couldn’t adjust the role” or “it wouldn’t be fair on the team,” what they usually mean is “we didn’t want to deal with it.” And that’s what drives me mad how often laziness, bias or lack of imagination is brushed off as “just being realistic.” That’s not realism. That’s ableism.
Most jobs can be adjusted. If someone can’t do one task but can do everything else why is the answer to push them out, instead of reshuffling the tasks or offering alternatives? We do this all the time in other settings. You wouldn’t chuck a kid out of school because they struggle with stairs. But in work, suddenly job specs are sacred texts.
And now, with the government trying to push more disabled people back into work (often with threats of benefit sanctions), where is the structural support? Employers still get to decide whether something is “reasonable,” even when they’ve shown time and again that they don’t understand or don’t care. That’s not a system that’s a gamble.
We should be encouraging every disabled person denied adjustments to take their employer straight to tribunal. I don’t care if it’s uncomfortable the law needs to be enforced. But also, it shouldn’t have to get that far. There should be an independent ombudsman-style service that employers must subscribe to something that can assess adjustment requests fairly and quickly, without making the disabled person go to war to be heard.
And honestly? If a business can’t afford to make space for disabled people, whether that’s with flexibility, equipment, transport help or task reallocation, then maybe they shouldn’t be in business. If your model only works when everyone is 100% able-bodied, then your model is broken. Shut it down.
AIBU to think we’ve got this totally backwards? That we’re still treating inclusion like a bonus feature instead of a basic requirement? That people who need adjustments are somehow seen as the problem instead of the systems and attitudes around them?
I’m sure this will rub some people the wrong way. Maybe that’s the point.

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Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 12:34

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:28

No my uncle didn’t “force” anyone to do anything illegal or exploit charities. He requested a reasonable adjustment due to a medical condition that made footwear painful. The charity chose to spend £3k upgrading flooring to accommodate that which was their legal duty under the Equality Act. Not a favour. Not blackmail. A basic compliance with the law.
And after they made the adjustment, he didn’t “scam” them he did his job, got offered a promotion elsewhere a couple of weeks after they installed it (as people do), and left. That’s not a grift, it’s a career. The only reason people are angry about it is because he stood up for his rights and the employer followed the law which apparently offends some of you more than the idea of someone working in pain every day.
Also it’s rich accusing disabled people of “gaming the system” when all they’re doing is asking not to be excluded from working life because of access needs. If your takeaway from a legal adjustment is “they’re scamming us,” you might want to take a breath and reflect on who’s really being unreasonable here.

Who asks their employer to install new special flooring then flounces? That's unhinged behavior. If he was job hunting he should have managed for sake of 3 fucking weeks.
Behavior like that, suing willy nilly and job hopping when you actually get your way will lead to no employer touching disabled people with a barge pole.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:35

JuniperJuly · 15/07/2025 12:05

Nah. A few people did WFH regularly. Not sure why but the capacity was there. Strange how people who dont like WFH dont have it as a reasonable adjustment (even if they have others) but those who do, suddenly have all sorts of reasons for it.

Of course walking around an office barefoot is stupid and dangerous. Errant staples, spilt hot water, rough stair edging, risk of stubbed toes on desks, slippy flooring etc etc. An office is not set to have people skipping along without shoes. Does he walk aboit outside without shoes? Does he go to the supermarket without shoes? Does he drive without shoes?

We're not talking about inclusion and adjustments that are (I'll say it again) reasonable. What you are saying is giving disabled people promotions because they cant do their job or letting them pass on bits of their jobs to other members of staff. I work with someone who has visual impairments. 2 of the programmes we use (that account for 15% of the job) cant be adjusted so he cant do that bit of the job. That's fine. However, according to you, he should just be let off doing 15% of his job and that should be passed to his colleague so that his colleague is doing 115% and he is doing 85% for the same wage. That is not a reasonable adjustment. Instead, he doesnt use those programmes and does 15% extra of work on the programmes he can use. So both him and his colleague are working 100% but he is not disadvantaged. That is a reasonable adjustment.

I think you are getting confusing about squeemishmess because I didnt mention anything about that.

Edited

You’re free to think what you like but if my uncle doesn’t get a fair assessment for WFH or working without shoes based on medical need, then yes, he’ll be taking it to tribunal. Because that’s exactly what the Equality Act 2010 is there for: to stop employers from casually dismissing disabled people’s access needs just because it makes someone else uncomfortable or doesn’t fit the office aesthetic.
WFH has been ruled a reasonable adjustment in multiple cases post-Covid and no, people don’t need to prove they’re shoeless in Tesco to deserve one at work. That’s not how medical conditions or legal rights work.
As for your example your colleague getting reassigned work they can do is exactly the kind of practical adjustment the law encourages. Great! But not everyone has that kind of manager. Many disabled people are shown the door instead of being supported. That’s why these conversations matter.
So again: if an employer doesn’t even attempt to assess whether something like WFH or going barefoot is safe and reasonable based on medical evidence, and they just say “no” out of hand? They’re not just being stubborn they’re breaking the law. And that’s what tribunals exist to deal with.

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Pennyforyourthoughtsplease · 15/07/2025 12:36

What will you do OP when everyone is on reasonable adjustments and there are no workers left? You do realise eventually people will get fed up, and those who have the means to leave will go.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:36

IMustDoMoreExercise · 15/07/2025 11:41

I agreed with your post until you said this:

And honestly? If a business can’t afford to make space for disabled people, whether that’s with flexibility, equipment, transport help or task reallocation, then maybe they shouldn’t be in business. If your model only works when everyone is 100% able-bodied, then your model is broken. Shut it down.

Have you ever run a business and employed people?

yes I do run a business.

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coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:38

Mustard4747 · 15/07/2025 12:28

Wow so charities need to be above the law!

clearly charities need to follow the law like any other business

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SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:38

Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 12:34

Who asks their employer to install new special flooring then flounces? That's unhinged behavior. If he was job hunting he should have managed for sake of 3 fucking weeks.
Behavior like that, suing willy nilly and job hopping when you actually get your way will lead to no employer touching disabled people with a barge pole.

Agreed.

These people sound like professional complainers.

Angry, of Rotherham. Face all over the papers pointing sadly at the floor because it’s wrong.

Absolutely none of them sound like I’d have the patience to employ them.

Drfosters · 15/07/2025 12:39

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:38

clearly charities need to follow the law like any other business

Yes but you are missing the point - there is obviously the law and there is the moral thing to do. Getting a charity to spend a lot of money for only you and then to leave shortly after (so he likely knew he was thinking about leaving as they were installing it) is immoral. Sorry but it is.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:41

Welliesandtweed · 15/07/2025 12:31

Reducing workload or output targets, such as call volumes or deadlines

That I'd not a reasonable adjustment and would cause resentment

The concept has changed vastly now. We've moved from physical accessibility to being allowed to start late, adjustment hours, take breaks, do less than colleagues, avoid meetings
It's not just demands.

That is a reasonable adjustment and it’s one that’s been upheld repeatedly in tribunals. If someone’s disability means they can’t sustain the same output as others without harming their health, then reducing targets or adjusting deadlines can absolutely be reasonable. It's even listed in the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s Statutory Code of Practice, which employers are expected to follow. So no this isn’t just “demands.” It’s literally the law.
You talk about resentment but the resentment should be aimed at employers who refuse to plan workloads properly, not at disabled people trying to stay in work without burning out. A disabled person doing 80% of the job with adjustments is still doing more than if they were pushed out entirely because the environment was too rigid.
And if that makes someone uncomfortable, then maybe the issue isn’t the adjustment it’s that too many people think equality means everyone suffering equally. It doesn’t. It means removing unfair barriers, even if it makes you rethink what “normal” looks like.
Reasonable adjustments aren’t about perks. They’re about survival. If you're still stuck on thinking flexibility = unfairness, you’re missing the point and possibly the law too.

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Mustard4747 · 15/07/2025 12:42

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:33

Getting £3k worth of flooring installed just for you, and then leaving shortly after?

Getting £35k for the sake of 5min breaks, for anxiety you’re not diagnosed with?

Both from charities? It may not be illegal, but it’s morally unconscionable.

Anxiety also takes about 5mins to diagnose. It’s a doctors appointment. One. I know, because I have it. Diagnosed and prescribed for at the same appointment.

It’s not as simple as a 5 minute GP appointment to get reasonable adjustments for anxiety.

Yes, anxiety can, under certain circumstances, give employees the legal right to reasonable adjustments in the workplace. If anxiety is considered a disability under the Equality Act 2010 (meaning it has a substantial and long-term negative effect on a person's ability to do normal daily activities), then employers are legally obligated to make reasonable adjustments to remove or reduce any disadvantages the employee experiences due to their anxiety.

Good luck with providing the evidence that your anxiety has substantial and long term negative effect on your ability to do daily activities after a 5 minute GP appointment particularly when it doesn’t.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:43

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:33

Getting £3k worth of flooring installed just for you, and then leaving shortly after?

Getting £35k for the sake of 5min breaks, for anxiety you’re not diagnosed with?

Both from charities? It may not be illegal, but it’s morally unconscionable.

Anxiety also takes about 5mins to diagnose. It’s a doctors appointment. One. I know, because I have it. Diagnosed and prescribed for at the same appointment.

At the time, I was younger and didn’t have a formal diagnosis but that doesn’t mean the anxiety wasn’t real or serious. It just means I didn’t have the tools, language, or confidence to navigate the system yet. And honestly? A lot of disabled and neurodivergent people are in the exact same boat. You can’t demand people magically produce paperwork overnight when we all know how hard and slow getting support can be, especially for mental health.
As for the £3k flooring and the tribunal payout both were legally awarded because the employers failed in their legal duties. My uncle didn’t sneak in under cover of darkness and lay down new floors himself. The charity chose to make that adjustment, because it was reasonable and necessary for someone with a genuine medical need. And he didn’t “run off” he left for a promotion, like people do every day.
The £35k wasn’t for “5 minute breaks” it was for a sustained failure to accommodate a disability, which caused harm and broke the law. You don’t get compensation from a tribunal unless the judge agrees your rights were breached. That’s not immoral. That’s justice doing what it’s supposed to do.
Charities don’t get a free pass to ignore the Equality Act. If they can’t meet the legal obligations of being an employer, then they need to rethink how they treat people not vilify the ones who stood up for themselves.

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Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 12:44

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:41

That is a reasonable adjustment and it’s one that’s been upheld repeatedly in tribunals. If someone’s disability means they can’t sustain the same output as others without harming their health, then reducing targets or adjusting deadlines can absolutely be reasonable. It's even listed in the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s Statutory Code of Practice, which employers are expected to follow. So no this isn’t just “demands.” It’s literally the law.
You talk about resentment but the resentment should be aimed at employers who refuse to plan workloads properly, not at disabled people trying to stay in work without burning out. A disabled person doing 80% of the job with adjustments is still doing more than if they were pushed out entirely because the environment was too rigid.
And if that makes someone uncomfortable, then maybe the issue isn’t the adjustment it’s that too many people think equality means everyone suffering equally. It doesn’t. It means removing unfair barriers, even if it makes you rethink what “normal” looks like.
Reasonable adjustments aren’t about perks. They’re about survival. If you're still stuck on thinking flexibility = unfairness, you’re missing the point and possibly the law too.

If the reasonably adjustable was about survival, why did your uncle run as soon as he got it, for a job that didn't have it? Evidently it wasn't actually all that vital if he left voluntarily almost immediately after the adjustments were made.

Flossflower · 15/07/2025 12:44

Am I the only one who thinks that the uncle could have just put a pair of loose fitting socks or special footwear on?

Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 12:46

Flossflower · 15/07/2025 12:44

Am I the only one who thinks that the uncle could have just put a pair of loose fitting socks or special footwear on?

But then you don't get special treatment and another chance to sue when you stand on something sharp.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:47

Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 12:34

Who asks their employer to install new special flooring then flounces? That's unhinged behavior. If he was job hunting he should have managed for sake of 3 fucking weeks.
Behavior like that, suing willy nilly and job hopping when you actually get your way will lead to no employer touching disabled people with a barge pole.

So just to be clear you're saying that once a disabled person receives a reasonable adjustment, they should stay in that job forever, even if a better opportunity comes up? That they shouldn’t dare apply for a promotion or leave for career progression, or they’re somehow “scamming” the system?
That’s ridiculous. Disabled people aren’t second-class workers. They have the same rights as anyone else to pursue better jobs, develop their careers, and accept promotions. The fact that an adjustment was made doesn’t mean they’re locked into a role for life as some kind of trade-off. That’s not how rights work.
My uncle didn’t “flounce.” He asked for a legal, medically supported adjustment that the employer agreed to after assessment. He then got a better job offer which he earned and moved on, like anyone with ambition and talent would. That’s not bad behaviour. That’s what a healthy working life looks like.
And seriously why should he have to keep working in pain for weeks on the off chance he might get a promotion? No one says that to non-disabled workers. You wouldn’t tell someone without access needs to grit their teeth through unnecessary discomfort just in case their new role comes through. That expectation only gets applied to disabled people, and it’s completely unfair.
Adjustments aren’t a chain. They’re what make it possible for people to do their jobs and move on from them too.

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SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:48

Mustard4747 · 15/07/2025 12:42

It’s not as simple as a 5 minute GP appointment to get reasonable adjustments for anxiety.

Yes, anxiety can, under certain circumstances, give employees the legal right to reasonable adjustments in the workplace. If anxiety is considered a disability under the Equality Act 2010 (meaning it has a substantial and long-term negative effect on a person's ability to do normal daily activities), then employers are legally obligated to make reasonable adjustments to remove or reduce any disadvantages the employee experiences due to their anxiety.

Good luck with providing the evidence that your anxiety has substantial and long term negative effect on your ability to do daily activities after a 5 minute GP appointment particularly when it doesn’t.

Please don’t condescend me about an issue that I have.

I understand that having anxiety doesn’t end at diagnosis. OP said she wasn’t diagnosed. Getting the actual initial confirmation that you have it, is in itself not difficult.

You also have no idea if my anxiety has a significant impact on my ability to do anything, so I’d thank you for not assuming.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:49

Mustard4747 · 15/07/2025 12:42

It’s not as simple as a 5 minute GP appointment to get reasonable adjustments for anxiety.

Yes, anxiety can, under certain circumstances, give employees the legal right to reasonable adjustments in the workplace. If anxiety is considered a disability under the Equality Act 2010 (meaning it has a substantial and long-term negative effect on a person's ability to do normal daily activities), then employers are legally obligated to make reasonable adjustments to remove or reduce any disadvantages the employee experiences due to their anxiety.

Good luck with providing the evidence that your anxiety has substantial and long term negative effect on your ability to do daily activities after a 5 minute GP appointment particularly when it doesn’t.

Actually, my anxiety was diagnosed not in a "5-minute GP chat" but in a 30-minute appointment with a qualified online doctor, who then followed up with a written letter summarising the impact on my daily functioning. That letter was accepted by the tribunal as part of the evidence. So no, this wasn’t just someone saying “I feel a bit nervous sometimes.” It was a recognised disability under the Equality Act because of its substantial and long-term effects.
A lot of people in this thread are grossly underestimating how employment law works. You don’t get £35k for nothing. A tribunal looked at the facts the adjustment I asked for, the employer’s refusal, the harm caused and agreed I had been treated unlawfully. That’s not “gaming the system.” That’s holding an employer accountable for failing to meet their legal duty.
And as for the charity yes, it’s unfortunate when any organisation has to pay compensation, but charities aren’t exempt from the law. If you choose to become an employer, you take on legal responsibilities. That includes supporting disabled staff fairly and lawfully.

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amicisimma · 15/07/2025 12:50

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 11:01

Just jumping in to say I’ve actually been through the tribunal process over reasonable adjustments, and I want to say this clearly: I’m not mad, I’m not making things up, and I’m definitely not the only one.
I used to work for a charity in a client-facing role, seeing around five clients a day for hour-long sessions. It was intense, emotionally draining work. I started experiencing really bad anxiety at that point undiagnosed, but very real and seriously affecting me day to day. I asked for short breaks between clients so I could manage it, regroup, and actually function properly in the role. That’s all. Not fewer hours. Not a pay rise. Just short pauses.
They refused. Completely. Said it “wouldn’t be fair on the rota.”
So I went to an Employment Tribunal and I won. The judge ruled they had failed in their duty to make reasonable adjustments under the Equality Act. The fact that I didn’t have a formal diagnosis didn’t matter the impact on my ability to work was clear, and that’s what the law looks at. In total I got £35,000.
So for anyone out there thinking people just throw around the word “anxiety” to get special treatment: no. Some of us are just trying to stay in jobs we care about, without wrecking our health in the process. And when employers don’t take that seriously? The law is absolutely on our side.
If you’re struggling and being ignored you’re not being dramatic. You’re probably just ahead of the curve in knowing your rights.

Well, that's £35,000 no longer available to spent on the charity's services.

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:51

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:43

At the time, I was younger and didn’t have a formal diagnosis but that doesn’t mean the anxiety wasn’t real or serious. It just means I didn’t have the tools, language, or confidence to navigate the system yet. And honestly? A lot of disabled and neurodivergent people are in the exact same boat. You can’t demand people magically produce paperwork overnight when we all know how hard and slow getting support can be, especially for mental health.
As for the £3k flooring and the tribunal payout both were legally awarded because the employers failed in their legal duties. My uncle didn’t sneak in under cover of darkness and lay down new floors himself. The charity chose to make that adjustment, because it was reasonable and necessary for someone with a genuine medical need. And he didn’t “run off” he left for a promotion, like people do every day.
The £35k wasn’t for “5 minute breaks” it was for a sustained failure to accommodate a disability, which caused harm and broke the law. You don’t get compensation from a tribunal unless the judge agrees your rights were breached. That’s not immoral. That’s justice doing what it’s supposed to do.
Charities don’t get a free pass to ignore the Equality Act. If they can’t meet the legal obligations of being an employer, then they need to rethink how they treat people not vilify the ones who stood up for themselves.

You haven’t answered which vulnerable group you took £35k from.

There is a huge difference between what is legal and what is moral. Suing at this point up to 3 (?!) charities, is immoral.

Digdongdoo · 15/07/2025 12:51

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:47

So just to be clear you're saying that once a disabled person receives a reasonable adjustment, they should stay in that job forever, even if a better opportunity comes up? That they shouldn’t dare apply for a promotion or leave for career progression, or they’re somehow “scamming” the system?
That’s ridiculous. Disabled people aren’t second-class workers. They have the same rights as anyone else to pursue better jobs, develop their careers, and accept promotions. The fact that an adjustment was made doesn’t mean they’re locked into a role for life as some kind of trade-off. That’s not how rights work.
My uncle didn’t “flounce.” He asked for a legal, medically supported adjustment that the employer agreed to after assessment. He then got a better job offer which he earned and moved on, like anyone with ambition and talent would. That’s not bad behaviour. That’s what a healthy working life looks like.
And seriously why should he have to keep working in pain for weeks on the off chance he might get a promotion? No one says that to non-disabled workers. You wouldn’t tell someone without access needs to grit their teeth through unnecessary discomfort just in case their new role comes through. That expectation only gets applied to disabled people, and it’s completely unfair.
Adjustments aren’t a chain. They’re what make it possible for people to do their jobs and move on from them too.

I think they should have to stay for more than 3 weeks, yes. Askign a charity to spend thousands on special flooring and immediately leaving is enormously immoral. He should be ashamed of himself in my opinion. What a waste of time and money.
And actually, anyone would be stupid to leave a job that suits them for a job that they know doesn't. That's just common sense. Unless of course the plan is to sue...

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:51

Flossflower · 15/07/2025 12:44

Am I the only one who thinks that the uncle could have just put a pair of loose fitting socks or special footwear on?

but you are ignoring the fact that occupational health an actual trained medical professional assessed my uncle’s needs and specifically recommended barefoot working or WFH as a reasonable adjustment.
It’s wild how quick people are to dismiss medical advice the moment it clashes with their own personal preferences. If a qualified expert has assessed the risk and said those are the appropriate options, why should random bystanders get to second-guess that with, “Oh he could’ve just worn loose socks”? That’s not how reasonable adjustments work. You don’t override clinical guidance with vibes and guesses.
The law expects employers to give serious weight to OH advice, not crowdsource alternatives from people who don’t know the details. If a doctor says barefoot or home working is what’s needed, then that’s what should be considered not eye rolls and “Well I wouldn’t like it.”

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Comefromaway · 15/07/2025 12:54

Occie health can recommend lots of things. It doesn't mean the employer has to do them if they don't deem them to be reasonable for that particular workplace.

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:54

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:49

Actually, my anxiety was diagnosed not in a "5-minute GP chat" but in a 30-minute appointment with a qualified online doctor, who then followed up with a written letter summarising the impact on my daily functioning. That letter was accepted by the tribunal as part of the evidence. So no, this wasn’t just someone saying “I feel a bit nervous sometimes.” It was a recognised disability under the Equality Act because of its substantial and long-term effects.
A lot of people in this thread are grossly underestimating how employment law works. You don’t get £35k for nothing. A tribunal looked at the facts the adjustment I asked for, the employer’s refusal, the harm caused and agreed I had been treated unlawfully. That’s not “gaming the system.” That’s holding an employer accountable for failing to meet their legal duty.
And as for the charity yes, it’s unfortunate when any organisation has to pay compensation, but charities aren’t exempt from the law. If you choose to become an employer, you take on legal responsibilities. That includes supporting disabled staff fairly and lawfully.

The point remains that it took 30mins to get a diagnosis letter. Online, I’d add.

If you wanted those adjustments, you should have got the letter, before you asked.

My boss is a decent guy. I wouldn’t dare turn up to a meeting asking for adjustments without the evidence of the reason why, because I honestly think it’s cheeky to ask for flexibility for something you can’t or haven’t proven.

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:54

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:51

You haven’t answered which vulnerable group you took £35k from.

There is a huge difference between what is legal and what is moral. Suing at this point up to 3 (?!) charities, is immoral.

It was a charity supporting homeless people and no, I won’t name them because I still want to respect anonymity and privacy. But let’s be very clear here: being a charity doesn’t exempt you from following the law. You don’t get to break the Equality Act just because your mission is a worthy one.
Charities are still employers. They still have HR departments. They still receive public funding in many cases and benefit from tax breaks. If they hire staff disabled or not they are legally required to provide a safe, fair, and lawful workplace. That includes making reasonable adjustments for disabled employees. Full stop.
You can believe in the good work charities do and still hold them accountable when they fall short. It’s not “immoral” to ask a charity to follow the law what’s immoral is letting legal obligations slide because someone’s doing “important” work. That just excuses harm.
And for the record: I didn’t take £35k from a vulnerable group. I was awarded compensation by a tribunal after a legal process found my employer had failed in their duties and caused harm. That’s not theft or immorality that’s accountability.

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Drfosters · 15/07/2025 12:55

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:51

but you are ignoring the fact that occupational health an actual trained medical professional assessed my uncle’s needs and specifically recommended barefoot working or WFH as a reasonable adjustment.
It’s wild how quick people are to dismiss medical advice the moment it clashes with their own personal preferences. If a qualified expert has assessed the risk and said those are the appropriate options, why should random bystanders get to second-guess that with, “Oh he could’ve just worn loose socks”? That’s not how reasonable adjustments work. You don’t override clinical guidance with vibes and guesses.
The law expects employers to give serious weight to OH advice, not crowdsource alternatives from people who don’t know the details. If a doctor says barefoot or home working is what’s needed, then that’s what should be considered not eye rolls and “Well I wouldn’t like it.”

that maybe but I absolutely think it is disgusting to inflict on the rest of the workforce in the office. So in the end it is whose rights trump whose? I would raise a grievance if a colleague was wondering around barefoot without any socks at the very least. (I would still think they are risk of stubbing their toes on office furniture or random sharp items like staples or stones that have been brought in)

SleeplessInWherever · 15/07/2025 12:57

coffeeandmycats · 15/07/2025 12:54

It was a charity supporting homeless people and no, I won’t name them because I still want to respect anonymity and privacy. But let’s be very clear here: being a charity doesn’t exempt you from following the law. You don’t get to break the Equality Act just because your mission is a worthy one.
Charities are still employers. They still have HR departments. They still receive public funding in many cases and benefit from tax breaks. If they hire staff disabled or not they are legally required to provide a safe, fair, and lawful workplace. That includes making reasonable adjustments for disabled employees. Full stop.
You can believe in the good work charities do and still hold them accountable when they fall short. It’s not “immoral” to ask a charity to follow the law what’s immoral is letting legal obligations slide because someone’s doing “important” work. That just excuses harm.
And for the record: I didn’t take £35k from a vulnerable group. I was awarded compensation by a tribunal after a legal process found my employer had failed in their duties and caused harm. That’s not theft or immorality that’s accountability.

The onus was on you to get a diagnosis before you started making requests. The law might not agree, but that’s how most of us with issues operate. Prove first, then ask.

You took £35k from the homeless. No further questions.

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