Stop using CHATGPT on MN!!

[EternalLodga]

Ive seen so many threads recently where the OP has a problem, and a poster goes:
"Here's what ChatGPT said:"
Followed by a copy and paste.

OMFG! Its so boring! We come on MN to get real opinions and ideas from real people.

Ditto with "cutesy", selfconciously "amusing" posts, like: "I asked ChatGPT to write a poem about this, here's what it came up with:"

Stop! Those "here's a funny limerick/poem" posts were hard to stomach back when they were written by the actual human. But clogging up a thread with 20 robot-generated lines of guff? Nah.

It’s always such a long answer, too!

It might be the thing that finally drives me off Mumsnet to regain 12-18 hours a day of free time, though, so…

Couldn’t agree more. Not a fan of it anyway, but I can at least get why others use it for most things described. What I don’t get is “So, I put your question into ChatGPT, op, and this is what it said: <cut and paste>.”

It’s like they think they’re the first to consider using AI so it’ll be a revelation to get served some generated list.

Well, it isn’t. We’ve all seen it now, thanks.

It bugs me as well. What's even worse is people using chatgpt pretending it's their own words. It's so bloody obvious and tiresome. I will report all AI text from now on as spam.

ChatGPT is great for some things. It can organise my notes from a call into a good bullet pointed summary that requires very minor tweaking. It can review something you’ve written for clarity/conciseness and tell you where you have likely assumed knowledge in your readers. It can make some quite helpful suggestions for things like meal planning if you shove in a list of what is left in the fridge. It’s also amazing for summaries of long, complicated documents to give you a better idea which ones might be useful to you.

There will be times it would give you a decent & diplomatic answer to questions on here and other times it would be pretty useless. I haven’t seen any poems it has generated but I can’t imagine them being amazing.

It’s a tool and like all tools it is only as useful as the person using it. I agree op that if you’ve come on mn to talk to real people then you aren't wanting them to respond using AI.

Hopefully the standard of PhD student work has not descended to a massive googling exercise with no discernment.

I think that all these deliberately contrary replies that have been turning up for the last 18 months or so are AI generated. There must be software somewhere that has a ‘compose opposite argument’ on it, so we get COMPLETELY bullshit replies instead of reasonable advice.

What is it with some posters and their obsession with poems? Been here years and never understood it. Thought it was just me for a while as there would always be a flock of sycophants posters going "omg that is soooo funny. You should publish a book" whereas I'd be rolling my eyes and muttering "fuck off Pam Ayres".

I automatically assume it's just a Mumsnet bot posting for interaction or AI content farming so dismiss these posts straight away

Same.

If I wanted a PHD level answer for something important I’d rather talk to an actual person with qualifications. It’s bad enough AI has destroyed the creative industry, now it’s destroying academic pursuits.

Oh my. Love it when AI post gets AI r3ply there. They are usually mental

My favourite recently was a male poster on a thread about challenges women face in society. Not only did he use Google AI to try and make himself sound intellectual he used regurgitated AI content in an attempt to dismiss every bit of research and lived experience written by female posters.
He was right and we were all wrong- including me who’d written my PhD on one of the topics being discussed.

I absolutely hate it and I’m seeing it more and more in the health groups I’m in on Facebook too (for complex autoimmune issues). It’s so lazy and if people wanted a reply from ChatGPT they can get it there themselves! I think it’s horrible.

YANBU. ChatGPT surely signals the demise of forums like this.

"[...] What hurts isn't the anger--it's the disappointment. When you've tried for so long, sometimes you need to let go. And that's okay."

Tbf that sound like a typical therapy response as well.

It definitely does lie. 100%. It’ll make something up and then claim that it hasn’t.

Apparently not. I reported a chatgpt post and mnhq said it was fine because the poster said "this is from chatgpt".

MNHQ have removed some I’ve reported when the copy-paste is so long it affects the readability of the thread – at some point posters will get bored scrolling and just click away to more interesting content.

It's frightening how some are almost obsessed with it.

To me it's perfectly obvious why AI cannot replace human interaction, for example, therapy. It's reactive, has no 'knowledge' of context or nuance, let alone observation of body language and tone of voice. It simply parrots back what has been said in a faux empathetic, positive manner. I think it's incredibly dangerous.

I was absolutely jumped on for saying this on another thread. Very bizarre.

Completely agree
It's so weird
I'd love someone to come on and say why they do it. Are they so insecure about their own thoughts and words they want to outsource all their thinking to IT? Or just that lazy?

Otoh I suppose if you got chat gpt to "read" and respond to a thread there's probably a greater chance they'd READ THE OP (let alone the whole thread) than half the posters on here and wouldn't respond to "am I a bad parent for giving Dd aged 5 a taste of my wine" with "depends, how old is dd?"

Not just its lack of humanity or its environmental impact, but the fact that research has shown it's making us actively stupider. Great, it summarises documents and plans meals for you - but what happens in a few years when we've all lost the skills of analysis, comprehension, planning, and creating?

It sounds silly, but its abundantly clear that if we don't maintain skills we take for granted, we lose them. I think ChatGPT users will be like the people in Wall E or Idiocracy in a decade or so, utterly incapable of critical thinking and managing their life without AI guidance.

I hate this too op. Boring and lazy. I am on mumsnet to read real people's responses in all their messiness and contradictions. In fact it really makes me want to use mn much less - probably a good thing!

The point of being human is to be able to think for yourself and to be able to weigh up the relevance and context of different information sources.

Quite happy to use AI for factual questions. What sort of paint should I use for my windows. Less so for societal questions like "what is a woman".

In the same way that stock markets crash if lots of computers hit the same "sell now" criteria at the same time, AI threatens to go into a spiral where sources are increasingly other computers. That said a friend, whose data science job is threatened by AI is now in the running for a new AI compliance position.

With luck she and others will help prevent the three paragraphs of complete gibberish Virgin Media sent me. Whilst as a landlord facing a big response from prospective tenants, obvious ChatGPT made it easy to filter some applicants. Millie may have given me two paragraphs of gushing prose detailing her enthusiasm for my property whilst telling me about her five years 'flatting experience', but the thought of this type of communication over a 12 month assured shorthold, was too much.

He’s isn’t good enough for you. You can do better than a robot. Orlando Bloom is available. Or indeed Katy Perry.

On second thoughts.