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AIBU to think he should worship the ground I walk on, not act like a twat, and maybe try not to cheat on me? Also… how do I get my own back?

217 replies

Teapotontheedge · 13/07/2025 22:58

Apologies in advance — this will be long and full of red flags I’ve chosen to ignore like an idiot.

Let’s travel back to 2014. I’m engaged to John (not his real name), we’re a few weeks away from our wedding, sitting outside having a BBQ. I unlock his phone and spot an app. I open it — threads from multiple women. I ask what it is. He goes all panicked and immediately deletes it. Says it’s “something they use at work” and he was embarrassed because he told some colleagues he went to a strip club. Classic. Red flags are flying but guess what? I go ahead and marry him. Because I’m a twat apparently.

Fast forward to December 2015. I’m pregnant. Open his phone (again, don’t ask) and find a message in his clipboard. It’s basically an ad about himself — age, height, what he’s looking for, plus his Skype name. I get into his account (because he uses the same obvious passwords — genius). He claims someone hacked his account. Yeah, because hackers always conveniently copy and paste flirty bios into your phone’s clipboard. 🙄 But again, like a mug, I forgive him.

Fast forward again to 2020. He goes on a “work trip” up north. Says he has to stay overnight. We’re on the phone late that night, all normal. A couple of weeks later, I use his phone and find he’s been Googling gentlemen’s clubs in Leeds before the trip. Clearly planned. Also find a random postcode saved. I push him. He lies. Swears on his kids’ lives the postcode means nothing. I ask to see his bank statement, and he tries to show me one from May. Like I can’t tell the difference. Eventually he fesses up: contacted an escort (makes it sound better apparently), withdrew cash, then claims he “came to his senses,” threw the money on the floor and just walked around Leeds for hours. Sure, mate.

That’s three major lies I know about. I honestly can’t imagine what else he’s done.

And yet here we are in 2025 and I’m still here. He still says if someone does something to him, he’ll do it back. He picks arguments like a child. Swans off on weekends with his mates leaving me with the kids — because apparently he deserves a break 🙃 Meanwhile I’m holding down the house, managing the kids, carrying the mental load of everything, and somehow I feel like the unattractive, nagging one.

So, AIBU to think he should worship the actual ground I walk on after everything he’s put me through? To not cheat, not lie, not gaslight and maybe thank me for still being here wiping up everyone’s messes? And more importantly: How do I get my own back? What would you do in my shoes? I’m 99.9% sure people would have left in 2014. And if not in 2014 then definitely in 2015 or 2020. What a loser I am.

Husband's a liar, possibly a cheat, definitely a man-child and thinks doing a bit of housework makes him a saint. AIBU to think I deserve more? He has NO idea how he makes me feel. Thinks he deserves attention, sex and everything else. Even has the cheek to sulk when I don’t feel like being intimate. Would you want to be intimate with someone who has treated you like that and made you feel so worth less yet I’m the unreasonable one! He also doesn’t seem to understand that cheating doesn’t have to be in real life. He seems to think it only counts as cheating if it is in person.

HELP.

OP posts:
Bunnie007 · 14/07/2025 07:22

‘Get your own back’ by divorcing and living your best life without him. Line up the divorce and work on yourself- all while playing along with him (invent some sort of medical issue so you don’t have to have sex with him- god knows what you might catch!) The simple truth is he has zero respect for you and doesn’t deserve your time or energy. Focus all your energy on you and your child/children and your future with out him. Give yourself a ‘glow up’ physically and mentally and plan a wonderful life without him. By putting all your energy into yourself and the children you just won’t have any left to worry about what your soon to be ex is up to.

OneNewLeader · 14/07/2025 07:23

I’m not sure accepting all he’s done to you has helped him respect you.

Theunamedcat · 14/07/2025 07:24

STD test
Divorce
Give him 50/50 custody
Get on with your life and thrive at it because you don't "need" to pay for people like he does

AgnesX · 14/07/2025 07:26

YABU purely for staying with this prince of a man.

Dreadful excuse for a human being.

Sevenamcoffee · 14/07/2025 07:29

Leaving is difficult but you need to start planning for it. I don’t see any alternative from what you wrote. He’s visiting sex workers and god knows what else.

The ‘sunk cost’ fallacy might be at play here, where you think that you’ve already put so much effort in here that you need to keep going. Essentially throwing good money after bad. You won’t get any medals for everything you do. He won’t change and a bit of him dislikes you.

Summertime62 · 14/07/2025 07:31

You get your own back by leaving him and living happily ever after.., it’s never too late to say enough!

chicola · 14/07/2025 07:32

Leave him.

Branleuse · 14/07/2025 07:33

if you dont want to divorce him, and you just want to make it into a game, then id just start doing what I wanted and have other lovers too.
Make sure you go away when you need a break too.

Ribecx · 14/07/2025 07:34

So, AIBU to think he should worship the actual ground I walk on after everything he’s put me through?

Not unreasonable... but 100% naive.

He will not change OP.

Bestfootforward11 · 14/07/2025 07:35

Leave him. There is no other option. You may feel you don’t have the strength to do it but take a small step at a time eg tell someone in real life if you haven’t alread; start working out money stuff etc. Your post sounds like you think you have no power because he has made you feel small. But you do. Good luck xxx

Barnbrack · 14/07/2025 07:38

Leave, as you should have done 14 years ago.

Why haven't you?
.get some counselling to work that out but do it from a position of having found your self respect and left

BMW6 · 14/07/2025 07:39

This is who he is. He will NEVER be faithful to you.

You've stayed with him so far despite the mountain of evidence - it's up to you whether you stay with him or not.

He isn't going to change. Only you can change being cheated on.

Barney16 · 14/07/2025 07:41

PP has mentioned holding your boundaries as in you aren't. The same thing keeps repeating, he does something wrong, you find out, make a fuss, stay, and then he does it again. He is going to carry on doing it, over and over again. If you can put up with that, fine. If you can't it's not about you getting revenge or him treating you really well, it's about what you do so you aren't subjected to his nonsense ever again.

MoreChocPls · 14/07/2025 07:41

Plan to divorce him and kick him out of the house? Who owns the house? What’s your financial situation like? Spend some money on you with his money.

aCatCalledFawkes · 14/07/2025 07:42

He doesn't need to worship the ground you walk on. You have already shown him how much he can put you through and you still won't leave him. Absolutely no incentive for him to stop either.

ThatCyanCat · 14/07/2025 07:42

I voted YABU because you know what you need to do... and you should do it , instead of self flagellating about it to show you know what you should do without actually doing it. Like people who post on here to get a kicking for something and then they can feel they've paid their dues without actually making changes. And YABU to focus instead on what he should do - worship the ground you walk on, when he clearly doesn't, never has and never will - instead of what you can do.

Aldiisnodifferenttowaitrose · 14/07/2025 07:43

You should have left years ago and you chose not to.
Nobody should worship the ground someone walks on - it's completely unhealthy.
Nobody should be planning revenge - it's also completely unhealthy.

Leave him, move on and live your life.

Sunflowersinthesummer · 14/07/2025 07:43

He 💯:
A cheat
A liar
Users sex workers
Not a decent man
Not a decent father
Not a decent human being

you can not work with these people, negotiate with them, believe them.

What you do is simple: you

  1. contact a solicitor and say you want a simple no fault divorce
  2. file for divorce - he comes back to the paperwork you give him
  3. decide on your back stop eg I want 60% of the house and 50% of your pension be reasonable
  4. if if you haven’t organise coaching for you
  5. if you haven’t already organise a full set of STI tests
  6. keep calm

I didn’t see escorts - you are mad. Agree with him verbally: ok I’m clearly mad, ok then - I still want a divorce.
you are menopausal- ok I’m menopausal - I still want a divorce
you are mental- ok I’m mental - I still want a divorce

in emails texts etc
any abuse or insult keep but as hard as it is don’t reply repeat
I will only communicate about contact with the children - you can have 50/50 one week on and one week off. Alternate weeks on your week you do everything on mine I do everything
or finances- any offers put them in writing and they go to the solicitor. I want (x) fill in what you want and will not negotiate about eg house our current one and 50% of pensions or whatever you are advised are reasonable.

do not engage with a liar

he showed you what he is, he can not change.

You however can. You were strong enough to survive the lies - change your life as help isn’t coming to save you.

JuniperJuly · 14/07/2025 07:46

Ive not voted but yAbu.
The reason?
You are expecting too much.

He has never worshipped the ground you walk on. In fact he doesnt even give it any thought, let alone even respect it. He has shown you this time and time again but you arent listening.

You say that forgiving him means he should be grateful. In reality, forgiving him has just given him permission to keep on doing it.

So no, you, cant expect him to worship you.

You can expect him not to cheat, sure. But you know he will.

You talk about getting your own back. Do you mean you want MN to give you permission to cheat too? Why? What will that achieve?

You have children. They are seeing your relationship and thinking it is normal. You are both modelling what marriages look like. Do you want your kids to end up in relationships that look like yours?

LurkyMcLurkinson · 14/07/2025 07:47

It’s unreasonable to think a man who hasn’t previously valued or appreciated you will suddenly start doing so. It’s also unreasonable to think that the responsibility for changing things should be on his end when he’s shown you he’s not capable of change and doesn’t want to. With that in mind you have to appreciate and value yourself and take steps to make the changes that will bring you happiness, like ending this shambles of a relationship. What’s stopping you?

LeilaLandi · 14/07/2025 07:48

If he was cheating just before you were married in what should be the heady days of excitement and love, and you went on to marry him, the dye was cast. Marriage and kids never make life easier so if you haven’t got a good foundation you’re setting yourselves up for unhappiness.

And now, it’s the same just more years down the line, you can either carry on with the same outcomes or face what would’ve been easier to face in 2014.

Not meant harshly and certainly no judgement, just my thoughts and life’s learnings.

Rusalina · 14/07/2025 07:48

A large proportion of men are spiritually unwell and incapable of mending their ways. You are making a mug of yourself, OP.

I feel like you’re expecting him to feel “omg, I am so grateful that Teapotontheedge has stuck by me, I’m so lucky, I need to mend my ways” - you think that because that’s how a normal human would feel, like you presumably would.

He’s never going to have that come-to-Jesus moment. Men like this are very simple, they just know actions and consequences. Every time you forgive him, you teach him that he can do what he wants and there will be no consequence.

Some people really are just wired up wrong. Waiting for them to change is pointless.

What will be your breaking point? Are you going to wait for him to give you an STD? Appoint a maîtresse-en-titre?

You know you deserve better than this.

MrBiscuits24 · 14/07/2025 07:50

Your greatest revenge will be to leave him and be happy without him. He’s complacent and you deserve so much better.

LillyPJ · 14/07/2025 07:56

YABU for continuing to stay and expecting him to change.

Lilactimes · 14/07/2025 07:59

Sunflowersinthesummer · 14/07/2025 07:43

He 💯:
A cheat
A liar
Users sex workers
Not a decent man
Not a decent father
Not a decent human being

you can not work with these people, negotiate with them, believe them.

What you do is simple: you

  1. contact a solicitor and say you want a simple no fault divorce
  2. file for divorce - he comes back to the paperwork you give him
  3. decide on your back stop eg I want 60% of the house and 50% of your pension be reasonable
  4. if if you haven’t organise coaching for you
  5. if you haven’t already organise a full set of STI tests
  6. keep calm

I didn’t see escorts - you are mad. Agree with him verbally: ok I’m clearly mad, ok then - I still want a divorce.
you are menopausal- ok I’m menopausal - I still want a divorce
you are mental- ok I’m mental - I still want a divorce

in emails texts etc
any abuse or insult keep but as hard as it is don’t reply repeat
I will only communicate about contact with the children - you can have 50/50 one week on and one week off. Alternate weeks on your week you do everything on mine I do everything
or finances- any offers put them in writing and they go to the solicitor. I want (x) fill in what you want and will not negotiate about eg house our current one and 50% of pensions or whatever you are advised are reasonable.

do not engage with a liar

he showed you what he is, he can not change.

You however can. You were strong enough to survive the lies - change your life as help isn’t coming to save you.

I agree with @Sunflowersinthesummer 100%

Plannyour exit carefully - don’t warn him to start with. Speak to solicitor/ deal with finances as listed @Teapotontheedge

I would not waste one more moment of my life dealing with this person. I promise you will be happier on your own without someone making you feel worthless. FEEL YOUR ANGER - but plan meticulously and then don’t look back.

wishing you luck xx