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AIBU?

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Aibu or is pathetic husband syndrome on the rise

102 replies

rOsie80 · 13/07/2025 01:01

I feel like I have far too many females friends who’s husbands are out of work / unable to work / suffering mental health issues / can’t cope with the children. But ultimately they have less responsibility than their wives, even before they suffer these things. Why are men so weak these days (or has it always been this way really??)

OP posts:
yakkity · 13/07/2025 18:03

Not sure but I know an awful lot of young people suffering with mental health problems who fit your description so maybe it’s more to do with the stress of life now

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 13/07/2025 18:04

Never ever keep men in the house. Ever.

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 13/07/2025 18:10

Not a model I see in our friendship / family group.

JANetChick · 13/07/2025 18:13

I notice men doing more of the childcare and cleaning than they would’ve done a generation ago but it seems to me that many women still carry the mental load of school bags, birthday presents, school holiday clubs, food deliveries, insurance etc etc etc.

That’s my circle anyway.

The only woman I know who does all domestic chores is one who doesn’t work outside the home, and she’s happy with her situation.

AhBiscuits · 13/07/2025 18:14

It's class camp season and we've done a couple. I was really struck by how many useless men there were, who basically did nothing.

One of the more extreme examples, one family arrived on the site Friday evening with everyone else, we're all setting up. The dad gets out of the car, gets his camping chair, whipped his top off, opened a beer and that was him for most of the weekend. His wife unloaded the car alone, set everything up alone, was struggling to put up the tent alone and some other people came to help her. I was tempted to say something to him, but I don't think his wife would have appreciated that. I'd always given her a fairly wide berth, just because her kids are absolute brats. But I can see now that she's probably having to do absolutely everything, I really doubt he helps with discipline.

User1839474 · 13/07/2025 18:17

ruralmural · 13/07/2025 12:07

interesting, what other medical conditions does stiff upper lip cure? PND?

Being pathetic isn’t a medical condition though is it?

Tireddadplus · 13/07/2025 18:17

Maybe it’s to do with having mums who did / do everything for us, so it’s easy to slip into the same pattern with a partner if allowed? I would totally let my DW do all my life admin / clothes shopping / child caring / food making etc if I could get away with it! Would be brilliant.

It takes two to play tennis and all that…not sure!

Thebuttercup · 13/07/2025 18:18

Fearfulsaints · 13/07/2025 16:42

My husband had a nervous breakdown. He wasn't pathetic. He was ill. He works incredibly hard before. And again since recovery. I do know quite a few men that hit 40s and had similar burn out episodes. I think its a point of thier lives where they've been so focused at work and realise there's still 27 years to go and there body aches now.

What about the women who are working equally as hard outside of the house, PLUS doing the lion's share of the housework/childcare and 100 per cent of the mental load?

If as many women could burn out, society would collapse.

horseplay12 · 13/07/2025 18:24

My DH is awesome - he does all the housework, I just do the shopping and cooking.

StresHed · 13/07/2025 18:26

ConcernedOfClapham · 13/07/2025 17:59

In real life, not sure; but on Mumsnet there’s definitely a pathetic husband mandemic 🙁

My BIL is a very high earner, very corporate.

Won’t wash his own clothes (doesn’t know how apparently) and struggles to look after his own kids. Makes my sister feel bad when she wants to go out and do something because it takes a toll on him. Says he can’t cook anything, asked her to cook him food a few hours after giving birth. I’ve seen him load the dishwasher and take out the bins but he also ‘takes to his bed’ on occasion just lying there morose all day with a headache whilst my sister runs around. He does ‘just enough’ to stop her from leaving

ShiftingSand · 13/07/2025 18:31

BatchCookBabe · 13/07/2025 12:24

Yeah but women work part time sometimes, because they do all the domestic chores, life admin, shopping, cooking, and childcare etc, and men generally do absolutely fuck-all. You're lucky if men do 10% of the mental and physical load around the house, and childcare duties. Even when men are not working/are off sick, most of them still do fuck-all.

If all women worked full time, they would still be doing everything else. The men don't step up. They leave it to the women. (Mostly.) Women don't go part time because they're lazy fuckers, they do it because they have everything in life left to them.

Nice that you have a 'brilliant' husband though. Wink

However, most men - of all generations - are bone idle when it comes to household chores/domestic tasks/life admin, and think childcare is babysitting.

Totally agree 😫

Fearfulsaints · 13/07/2025 18:36

Thebuttercup · 13/07/2025 18:18

What about the women who are working equally as hard outside of the house, PLUS doing the lion's share of the housework/childcare and 100 per cent of the mental load?

If as many women could burn out, society would collapse.

Sod off. You dont get a choice of burning out. It doesn't make you pathetic if you do.

There are many many women who discover they are autistic or have adhd when they burn out. More wimen than men claim pip for anxiety dusorders. Are they also pathetic.

Mental health issues are real and not pathetic.

Tidekiln · 13/07/2025 18:40

Thebuttercup · 13/07/2025 18:18

What about the women who are working equally as hard outside of the house, PLUS doing the lion's share of the housework/childcare and 100 per cent of the mental load?

If as many women could burn out, society would collapse.

Well perhaps there arent as many of those women around as we seem to think then. Maybe there are plenty husbands/dads who do a fair share, we just dont hear about them as they dont get moaned about.

RhaenysRocks · 13/07/2025 18:40

But you can be pathetic and lazy and NOT have a mental health disorder. Regardless of sex.

Tidekiln · 13/07/2025 18:41

StresHed · 13/07/2025 18:26

My BIL is a very high earner, very corporate.

Won’t wash his own clothes (doesn’t know how apparently) and struggles to look after his own kids. Makes my sister feel bad when she wants to go out and do something because it takes a toll on him. Says he can’t cook anything, asked her to cook him food a few hours after giving birth. I’ve seen him load the dishwasher and take out the bins but he also ‘takes to his bed’ on occasion just lying there morose all day with a headache whilst my sister runs around. He does ‘just enough’ to stop her from leaving

What's the 'just enough' ?

StresHed · 13/07/2025 18:42

Tidekiln · 13/07/2025 18:41

What's the 'just enough' ?

Not enough for me! He ramps up and improves if she calls him out then goes back to his usual ways.

Tidekiln · 13/07/2025 18:43

StresHed · 13/07/2025 18:42

Not enough for me! He ramps up and improves if she calls him out then goes back to his usual ways.

That's not just enough then is it. Wonder what else keeps her with him.

Fearfulsaints · 13/07/2025 18:48

RhaenysRocks · 13/07/2025 18:40

But you can be pathetic and lazy and NOT have a mental health disorder. Regardless of sex.

Yes you can and that's entirely different.

But op said mental health issues in thier rather short list of things men get wrong, under the heading pathetic and ending the post with weak.

Its really riled me!

StMarie4me · 13/07/2025 19:09

@BurntBroccoliI raised mine as a single Mum too!

BatchCookBabe · 13/07/2025 19:14

ThomasShelbysfagend · 13/07/2025 13:31

Apart from moving a small chest freezer into the middle of the snug room yesterday which annoyed the fuck out of me, mine isn’t workshy or crap!
Does 95% of the childcare, household stuff, school stuff, after school clubs and kids hobbies while I swan off with work leaving him to it.
Totally devoted to our kids every whim! Everything else comes behind that and always has done with him.
Also works hard from home which he took up so he could be around for our kids and to allow me to climb the corporate ladder to where I am with 100% support and encouragement.

Thank Christ I chose so carefully the person I was going to have kids and be with for many years ahead.. make no mistake, I did choose extremely carefully and tested this to the max before deciding to stick with him.
Took several years to come to the decision but so glad I did.
Not all are crap!

Oh so THAT is the trick, women need to make sure they carefully SELECT - and test their men before they marry them and have babies with them. Because men NEVER CHANGE after they're married with children. 🙄

Give me strength!

RhaenysRocks · 13/07/2025 19:15

BatchCookBabe · 13/07/2025 19:14

Oh so THAT is the trick, women need to make sure they carefully SELECT - and test their men before they marry them and have babies with them. Because men NEVER CHANGE after they're married with children. 🙄

Give me strength!

Edited

Indeed. I was with mine for 5 years..and he was actually a great dad and husband until he left for ow and has since done the bare minimum for his kids.

BatchCookBabe · 13/07/2025 19:17

Thebuttercup · 13/07/2025 18:18

What about the women who are working equally as hard outside of the house, PLUS doing the lion's share of the housework/childcare and 100 per cent of the mental load?

If as many women could burn out, society would collapse.

This 100%. ^

BatchCookBabe · 13/07/2025 19:18

RhaenysRocks · 13/07/2025 19:15

Indeed. I was with mine for 5 years..and he was actually a great dad and husband until he left for ow and has since done the bare minimum for his kids.

I'm sorry to hear that... Flowers

RhaenysRocks · 13/07/2025 19:22

BatchCookBabe · 13/07/2025 19:18

I'm sorry to hear that... Flowers

Well thank you..it was a fair while ago and I'm totally over it but they are not so much

ThomasShelbysfagend · 13/07/2025 19:23

So we are not interested in other people’s experiences then?