To think this is the start of type 1 diabetes

[NeuroSpicyCat]

Hand hold please.

My 13 year old son informed me tonight that he wet the bed last night.

This has never happened before.

His late father had Type 1 diabetes which started around this age.

My son also has a sore tummy (that comes and goes) and sore calves (that come and go).

He seems to have low mood also.

He's always been really thin.

My husband (his stepdad) is driving to A&E with him right now. I’m staying home with the other 4 children. (I can’t drive).

I’m autistic and scared. I’m so worried for him. AI said he is highly likely to be diagnosed given his symptoms and family history, and he’s likely to be urgently admitted to hospital.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Lyla DID have the symptoms of T1D though - frequent urination, excessive thirst, fatigue, drastic weight loss. OP’s DS did not.

Op's son has had ongoing issues

My son also has a sore tummy (that comes and goes) and sore calves (that come and go).

Then she goes on AI and puts her biased symptoms in with no medical professional or even medically specialised AI asking suitable questions just confirming OP's existing bias. US based and designed Gemini AI says go to A&E. The US has a completely different health care system to the UK. It's all manners of wrong.

Why did OP not make a GP or nurse appointment before if her son's symptoms come and go?

Especially given his father has type 1

so bloody odd

Conveniently forgetting that OP’s late husband - the childs' father - had T1D. Depending on whether that was a factor in his death it could well have contributed to her anxiety. T1D can deteriorate very quickly and can present with vague symptoms. OP says he had other symptoms and several posters upthread have confirmed that they were diagnosed with similar symptoms. There was even an endocrinologist posting to support OP’s decision.

To label OP as feckless in these circumstances is ridiculous. Yes, we all share the same healthcare resources, and we are all equally entitled to make an A&E call as we see fit. And l’m sure the doctors and nurses involved would rather a parent act as OP did in the best interests of her child, than wait and have him potentially be admitted as an emergency in a much more serious condition.

I can imagine the HCP's eye roll when OP's husband told them Gemini told them to go to A&E.

This was my first thought too.

Have a sniff OP. Does it smell like urine?

Lyla was actively very unwell though, op's son wasn't.

Well AI was wrong. An example of, whilst it’s brilliant, AI is dangerous for health diagnosis.

Sure - the symptoms your DS showed COULD be symptoms of diabetes. Just like my headache COULD be a brain tumour - but isn’t.

You have gone down a rabbit hole and convinced yourself of the diagnosis despite your son not showing the classic symptoms. You’ve hooked on to a couple of things.

important to get checked out? yes absolutely. A&E? No…8am doctors.

Stop using AI if you can’t put its answers in context.

I think you are correct to have your son checked out at hospital. Doing a finger prick test will show his blood glucose levels immediately.
waiting until the next morning could be a big mistake as DKA can happen overnight and can be fatal. Yes it’s a scary thought and shocking. But a doctor would rather see your healthy child than one in DKA. You’ve done the right thing in having him checked out. People who are not educated on Type 1 diabetes do not understand the seriousness of this condition.
I hope your son is well.

With this history she should have consulted her GP or practice nurse long ago. Her son's symptoms "come and go". Then, one night, she starts typing into a US based AI and in a panic gets her dc to A&E in the middle of the night. It's how she blindly trusts some random AI that is concerning here.

It's v concerning, especially as lots of people will be using AI in this way to support and increase their anxieties.

That wasn’t the question. OP did what she thought was best in the circumstances.

My son was mildly unwell in the morning by 8 in the evening he was fighting for his life in critical care it can progress very quickly thankfully my son recovered but if we had left it till the morning he wouldn't be here now.

One episode. No other classic symptoms and a stomach ache.

And I know full well how dangerous DKA is but the OP overreacted.

Are you sure he wet the bed and it wasn’t just a wet dream?

Exactly.

If someone had undiagnosed untreated type 1 diabetes, enough to get symptoms such as bed wetting, their random blood sugar would be high. The normal blood sugar has ruled it out. Massive overreaction by OP, which has led to a pointless night in A&E for her child. He certainly needs investigations due to sudden bed wetting, but it’s most likely a UTI, and a GP visit could sort that.

If a 13 year old boy had come to me and said they'd "wet the bed" I'd have wondered if it was a wet dream rather than diabetes.
I appreciate you are anxious because the boy 's dad has T1D but "wetting the bed" once doesn't mean he also has it.
AI is a menace and you shouldn't be relying on it.
I'm glad he is being checked out. However a GP appointment would have sufficed.

By which time it could be too late. DKA kills. Never wait if you suspect TYPE 1.

with type 1 there are no dietary changes necessary! It is not caused by anything in your diet. The pancreas does not work so therefore does not produce the insulin needed to survive. You can eat anything you want if you have Type 1 diabetes you just have to bolus the correct amount of insulin for whatever you eat/ drink.

Many posters on mumsnet are wrong too always better to get it checked out than to listen to uninformed posters.

I like how people who have no knowledge of the subject, always feel entitled to leave their sarcastic pointless comment🙄

Middle of the night
you’re worried your son has serious medical condition after long standing health concerns and a family history of type 1 Diabetes
What do you?

start an AIBU mumsnet thread of course!

But she wouldn't have known that if she hsdent got it checked out would she??

OP still thinks it could be T1DM

It was neither sarcastic nor pointless. I was pointing out to the OP that her DS doesn’t have T1D symptoms. Which he doesn’t.