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To think this is the start of type 1 diabetes

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NeuroSpicyCat · 10/07/2025 00:11

Hand hold please.

My 13 year old son informed me tonight that he wet the bed last night.

This has never happened before.

His late father had Type 1 diabetes which started around this age.

My son also has a sore tummy (that comes and goes) and sore calves (that come and go).

He seems to have low mood also.

He's always been really thin.

My husband (his stepdad) is driving to A&E with him right now. I’m staying home with the other 4 children. (I can’t drive).

I’m autistic and scared. I’m so worried for him. AI said he is highly likely to be diagnosed given his symptoms and family history, and he’s likely to be urgently admitted to hospital.

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

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Canonlythinkofthisone · 10/07/2025 00:54

16 mins from checking in to blood sugar results. Crikey, what part of the country are you in for that NHS service

pinkdelight · 10/07/2025 00:55

MNpenisadvisor · 10/07/2025 00:44

Surely going to the GP tomorrow would be a better use of NHS resources than midnight a&e

Absolutely! I despair of how A&E is going to cope if people are heading over there on the say so of AI. Astonishing to have so much faith in that while dismissing 111 out of hand. I get that OP is worried but it could wait for GP. One wet bed last night is not an emergency now.

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 00:55

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 00:29

no, I am not. OP has described an occasional relapsing and demoting stomach ache. This would not be the case with ketoacidosis. Bed wetting on its own is NOT an indication of T1D. Excessive thirst is, and the increase in fluid intake can cause bedwetting but a single occurrence of bedwetting with absolutely no thirst is not. T1D has a genetic component but it’s not strongly hereditary. The majority of people with T1D have no immediate relatives with the condition.

And your medical qualifications are ??? . They only thing that is correct in your statement above is that most people who develop T1D do not have a close relative with diabetes but a close parent or siblings with diabetes does increase the risk to the individual above that of the general population.

OneBrightMorning · 10/07/2025 00:57

Your last post sounds reassuring. I know you're worried (understandably) but your son's blood sugar testing as normal seems a good sign.

Also please don't let AI ramp up your anxiety. There is so much misinformation out there, AI is really not to be trusted with something so important.

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 00:57

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 00:55

And your medical qualifications are ??? . They only thing that is correct in your statement above is that most people who develop T1D do not have a close relative with diabetes but a close parent or siblings with diabetes does increase the risk to the individual above that of the general population.

Surprise surprise - OP’s DS has normal blood sugar. It’s really important not to scare monger. Seriously - you just make things 10 times worse by insisting everything must be the worst case scenario when that’s not the clinical picture at all.

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 00:58

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/07/2025 00:49

Latest update from husband: “We’ve been seen by a nurse for an initial assessment. They’ve tested his blood sugar and it’s fine. 4.8. We’re now waiting to see doctor which is a 2 hour wait. The blood test doesn’t entirely rule it out as it’s a snapshot of his blood now. She said doctor may decide to run full blood tests based on all information when we see them.”

A small win?

It's a completely normal blood glucose reading so while not completely ruling out diabetes makes it highly improbable. Hope your son is home soon and you can all get some sleep OP .

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 00:58

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 00:58

It's a completely normal blood glucose reading so while not completely ruling out diabetes makes it highly improbable. Hope your son is home soon and you can all get some sleep OP .

No shit. 🙄

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 10/07/2025 00:59

Canonlythinkofthisone · 10/07/2025 00:54

16 mins from checking in to blood sugar results. Crikey, what part of the country are you in for that NHS service

It'll be a fingerprick test which takes 30 secs.

Donotgiveashit · 10/07/2025 00:59

I was a bed wetter into my teens and father was type 1 diabetic. Am not diabetic.
Young people with Type I diabetes have excessive thirst,urinate +++ ,loose weight and have very sweet smelling breath. So hopefully your son is ok.X

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:01

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 00:55

And your medical qualifications are ??? . They only thing that is correct in your statement above is that most people who develop T1D do not have a close relative with diabetes but a close parent or siblings with diabetes does increase the risk to the individual above that of the general population.

Firstly, I was correct about the DKA stomach pain. OP described and occasional stomach ache. That is not the pain presentation for DKA. I was correct about the hereditary component. I was correct that a single episode of bedwetting with no increased urination or thirst isn’t a sign of diabetes. Given that that’s all the elements of my post, I think you’ll find there’s plenty correct in my statement.

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:01

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 00:57

Surprise surprise - OP’s DS has normal blood sugar. It’s really important not to scare monger. Seriously - you just make things 10 times worse by insisting everything must be the worst case scenario when that’s not the clinical picture at all.

And i ask again, your medical qualifications are ? .
No one is scare mongering but the symptoms the OPs son have are some of those that children with undiagnosed TID present with . It isn't always a barn door diagnosis. Sometimes it's a lot more subtle .

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:02

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:01

And i ask again, your medical qualifications are ? .
No one is scare mongering but the symptoms the OPs son have are some of those that children with undiagnosed TID present with . It isn't always a barn door diagnosis. Sometimes it's a lot more subtle .

you first.

Early3Rise · 10/07/2025 01:03

Honestly, I'd have chalked it up as a blip and just kept an eye on him

If he wet the bed again, I'd have booked a GP visit.

A&E without other signs is a bit silly IMO, sorry.

I appreciate DKA is an emergency but he doesn't have the symptoms of this. You've let your anxiety over diabetes cloud your judgement.

Donotgiveashit · 10/07/2025 01:03

4.8 is 100% within normal levels. Am sure your son will be home soon.X

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/07/2025 01:03

MsChilds · 10/07/2025 00:52

Just seen your update that’s good news

It rules out DKA presumably? Which is great news. But still uncertain re diabetes I’m assuming

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Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:04

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:02

you first.

OK 40 years in paediatrics including 15 specialising in endocrinology/ paediatric diabetes .
Now you ?

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:04

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:01

And i ask again, your medical qualifications are ? .
No one is scare mongering but the symptoms the OPs son have are some of those that children with undiagnosed TID present with . It isn't always a barn door diagnosis. Sometimes it's a lot more subtle .

Latching on to the one thing that could possibly be a symptom whilst ignoring all the aspects that very clearly aren’t a symptom in order to push a worst case scenario is very much scaremongering.

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:04

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:04

OK 40 years in paediatrics including 15 specialising in endocrinology/ paediatric diabetes .
Now you ?

Bullshit.

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:07

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:04

Bullshit.

Actually if you want to read some of my other posts you will see it's not .
You clearly have none because you do not understand the physiology around polydipsia / polyuria in diabetes .

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:07

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:04

OK 40 years in paediatrics including 15 specialising in endocrinology/ paediatric diabetes .
Now you ?

There is absolutely no way a diabetes CNS would ignore almost every aspect of the clinical picture like you have, just to push a narrative.

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/07/2025 01:10

Canonlythinkofthisone · 10/07/2025 00:54

16 mins from checking in to blood sugar results. Crikey, what part of the country are you in for that NHS service

Newcastle

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Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:11

OP , sorry you thread has been a bit derailed by the discussion about potential symptoms. Will leave the thread now but glad everything is sorted now . Don't feel bad about taking him to A and E . I have met many families who's children have been diagnosed and felt they should have sought an opinion sooner .

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/07/2025 01:13

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 00:58

It's a completely normal blood glucose reading so while not completely ruling out diabetes makes it highly improbable. Hope your son is home soon and you can all get some sleep OP .

Highly improbable/ really?

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Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:16

TheFairPoet · 10/07/2025 01:07

There is absolutely no way a diabetes CNS would ignore almost every aspect of the clinical picture like you have, just to push a narrative.

I wasn't pushing a narrative. I was stating that the symptoms are among those that children with undiagnosed T1D exhibit . I have met many children with diabetes and the symptoms are often classic but are often more subtle in the early stages . As I have said to the OP ,this has derailed her thread somewhat and I am off to bed ( but have noticed you still haven't mentioned you medical qualifications?? )

NeuroSpicyCat · 10/07/2025 01:18

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/07/2025 01:11

OP , sorry you thread has been a bit derailed by the discussion about potential symptoms. Will leave the thread now but glad everything is sorted now . Don't feel bad about taking him to A and E . I have met many families who's children have been diagnosed and felt they should have sought an opinion sooner .

Thank you. And please don’t feel you have to leave.

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