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Am I really being a nuisance neighbour?

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JanuaryFlowers · 06/07/2025 11:32

This is really long.. so I apologise in advance. I live on a newbuild housing estate in social housing. I live in a middle two bedroom terrace with a neighbour either side. We all have one child each.

We have lived here relatively happily for the last 3 years, and get on really well with our neighbours as our children, all girls, play together outside. My neighbour to the left has two dogs who when left alone, will bark and howl until she comes home. I have two dogs myself and I understand they can be a nuisance, and one of mine barks when she goes outside to do her business so I never complain about it. But I do not leave my dogs barking. The moment they start, I bring them in. My neighbours dogs do bark until the early hours on weekends, last night it was just after 1am but I have never complained because I like being friendly and don't want to cause problems.

Now this same neighbour started a new job and as such leaves for work at 6am during the week and has complained about me coming home at 9pm-9.15pm, mainly on Thursdays due to my DD having cub scouts, and being noisy. At the time our front door was misaligned due to bad workmanship and I accepted that my closing the front door was probably waking her up so I always apologised and endeavoured to be as quiet as physically possible.

My front door has since been fixed and we no longer have that issue. Yet her complaints about 'banging doors' persist. She says my car doors closing wake her up. Then it's my front door closing. Then it's my french doors closing. Then it's 'vibrations' coming from my house. Essentially what she wants is for me to be in my home by 8pm every night, regardless of our lives and stay home because she goes to sleep at 9pm every night.

One night she came banging on my front door claiming I was being noisy.. I had literally just walked into my home and the time duration from me closing my front door to her being there was seconds, all most like she was waiting for me to get in, just to complain. I was tired and I stupidly told her that if she had such an issue that she needed to complain to our housing association, which she did. And I got a noise complaint letter.

I have asked my neighbour to the right if she can hear me and she says absolutely not. In fact, I never hear her either. All that neighbour ever hears is the dogs barking till stupid o'clock nearly every weekend from the neighbour to my left.

Our housing association investigated and decided our 'noise' wasn't anti-social and just normal daily noise, and suggested our neighbour purchase earplugs and dropped the complaint.

One night, me and my husband were sat downstairs with our french doors open and clearly heard someone thumping, banging and slamming doors. We heard a front door open and slam loudly and then french doors open and slam loudly and when we went outside into the garden, it sounded like it was coming from our neighbour who complained about us.

We shrugged it off and carried on with our evening, then I got a message on my FB messenger from the same neighbour asking me to stop banging and slamming doors. I explained that it wasn't us, my DD was asleep upstairs and were in our living room watching tv.

She sent loads of messages, going on and on even though I repeatedly explained it wasn't us. She then posted on our estate Facebook page for everyone to see, asking what she should do about daily noise from her neighbours?

I'd had enough at this point and called my housing association the next day about it. They said they will add what I'd said to the file if a complaint came in, which surprisingly it never did.

Instead our housing association wrote to us informing us an anonymous complaint has been put in about driveway having an 'uninsured vehicle on it' and they needed proof it was insured and taxed.

When I asked if the anonymous complaint was my neighbour to the left, they didn't confirm nor deny it but asked me why I suspected it to be her. I explained because a stranger wouldn't complain to my housing association unless they knew 100% that I was renting and hadn't bought the home myself. And the complaint would have had to have come from someone in possession of a tenancy agreement to know that us having an untaxed/uninsured vehicle on our driveway would be a breech of tenancy. I also explained our history with this neighbour and the housing association informed me that they were going to 'keep an eye on the situation that was clearly developing' and would no longer pursue the anonymous complaint.

So it's obviously her again. She can't get me kicked out because of percieved noise, so now she is trying other ways.

My husband has decided he wants to fight fire with fire, gather evidence on her barking dogs and make a complaint ourselves but I don't want that. I don't want to escalate it. I just want to live in peace. Our previous landlord sold the home we had lived in for 14 years during covid and we were homeless for months until we got this house, I don't want to be homeless again.

What annoys me is she adamant that we bang around in our home until midnight. My husband is a HGV driver and leaves for work at 5.30am every morning. My daughter is at primary school. We are in bed most nights between 9pm-10pm so the banging she is hearing absolutely isn't us. My neighbour to my right is adamant she can't hear us.

I just don't know what to do.

OP posts:
WonderingWanda · 06/07/2025 12:24

She sounds nuts. Its a terraced house and I've lived in plenty of them. You can hear people opening and closing doors, walking g upstairs, tvs etc. That's normal and it's not unreasonable of you to do those things. If she is unable to sleep because of normal noise that's unfortunately her problem. Maybe she needs earplugs or sleeping pills or to move. Just ignore her and keep in contact with the HA as you are doing.

WheresMyFlag · 06/07/2025 12:35

Boddica2000 · 06/07/2025 11:43

You need to stop trying to figure out her reasons for being a harassing nutbag, and just deal with the reality that she is a harassing nutbag, with no further interactions with her, at all.

This is actually the best advice and what I wish I'd done with our nutbag neighbours. Instead I tried like you are to 'keep the peace' by apologising for the (non existent) noise and it just made her think she was justified.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 06/07/2025 12:39

@JanuaryFlowers as regards the vehicle in the drive being untaxed, it is off the road so that is fine. just to make it even more legal, declare is as sorn!

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 06/07/2025 12:43

Your husband is right. I'd be going full throttle on this pest.

Maraa · 06/07/2025 12:44

I’m not usually a tit for tat kinda person, but if I was in your shoes, I’d be making complaints about her noise. You’ve done what you can to rectify the situation with your door. She sounds like no matter what you do she will complain and it’s not nice for you to be living on eggshells constantly.
and fyi - coming in at 9-9.15pm is not unreasonable at all. It’s not your fault your working schedules align differently. If the noise bothers her that much then she needs to source a detached house.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 06/07/2025 12:53

I would also stop creeping around. If you want to talk and laugh outside you do it. Close your doors and windows when you want. These are normal living, and you should not be acting like it's silent hour in a monestery.

Viviennemary · 06/07/2025 12:58

Was there an uninsured vehicle on your drive? Both you and the other neighbours should lodge a complaint about her dogs barking all the time. Otherwise ignore her.

ManchesterLu · 06/07/2025 12:58

There's some noises you can prevent and others you can't. She's being really odd here. You can't really shut a car door silently as you have to put at least some force behind it to make sure it closes properly. Also, 9pm isn't an unreasonable time to be making noise outside still. It's her schedule that's abnormal, not yours. It's on HER to make sure her bedroom is quiet enough to sleep. She either needs earplugs, a white noise machine, or better windows. Or maybe even all 3!

You can't live in a terraced house and expect no noise.

user1471538283 · 06/07/2025 13:00

For whatever her reasons she's targeting you. Keep a log of all her noise and harassment just in case you need it. Also write down everything you've done to appease her. Do not do her any favours anymore. Report her neglect of the dogs.

You won't lose your home. Your neighbour the other side has no issues with you.

Cherrysoup · 06/07/2025 13:01

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 06/07/2025 12:39

@JanuaryFlowers as regards the vehicle in the drive being untaxed, it is off the road so that is fine. just to make it even more legal, declare is as sorn!

OP already said it’s against the tenancy agreement to have an untaxed vehicle on the drive, tho. She also says she has SORN’d it and the housing association has said it’s fine.

Barking dogs drives me nuts. Mine are immediately brought in even after one bark, but don’t really bark anyway. You should definitely make a complaint, maybe it’ll help the poor bloody dogs.

cimena · 06/07/2025 13:02

This happened to us- after eight years of the downstairs neighbours being fine, one of them suddenly became obsessed with noise. It was around Covid so maybe that was it. The first time it happened we were doing some DIY (at a normal time) and we apologised and said please do let us know if anything bothers you again and we’ll work around you. That was a mistake. They would text about everything. They would text when we closed the front door. They texted if I dropped something on the floor. They complained to the council that we’d changed our floors, we hadn’t.

There’s nothing you can do except ignore and log her behaviour in case you ever need it.

Ours moved in the end, somewhere rural I hope.

JudgeJ · 06/07/2025 13:05

She claims she has but it's 'vibrations' coming from my house that wakes her up.

Tell her your birthday's coming soon, she can buy you a new, quieter one!

It's not illegal to have an untaxed, uninsured car on your drive, unless it's a petty HA rule, I have one on my drive while my granddaughter is away for a year.

4forksache · 06/07/2025 13:07

You could log stuff and ask them not to do anything with the information as you fear retaliation, but you just want it on record that you aren’t unreasonable people in case things escalate in the future.

queenrollo · 06/07/2025 13:11

This will depend on your particular HA but let me tell you we (several residents of my village) had 4 years of absolute hell with one HA tenant and despite submitting hours of CCTV evidence of his behaviour the most we managed to achieve was a level 2 warning. I really doubt you would lose your tenancy over something like this.

Document everything, our greatest asset was comprehensive diaries. I am a homeowner, the others affected were HA tenants. We did end up with a case-worker who was very sympathetic. Definitely speak to someone in your HA about what is going on.

ReconstructionSite · 06/07/2025 13:17

I think if you stop thinking about it as "making a complaint", this might be helpful. What strikes me is that every issue seems to be dealt with piecemeal by your HA (this is not unusual!).

You will almost certainly have a dedicated Housing Officer for your area - find out who it is and ask if you can have a chat. Explain to them the bigger picture and that you'd like to avoid getting into a formal Anti Social Behaviour dispute if you can. They may be able to suggest lower level conflict resolution approaches to help. But the important bit is this will then all go on your record (in a good way) if the nutjob continues to harass you, or make false complaints, then the Housing Officer has a much clearer picture of the background.

IzzyHandsIsMySpiritAnimal · 06/07/2025 13:24

KellySeveride · 06/07/2025 11:58

I think you need to film the noise when she is doing her door banging routine again. And film the noise from the dogs. And report it to your HA as a non complaint. Ask if they can just put it on file for now. Just so you have a record.

FWIW our next door neighbour likes to bang her front door, we have never considered going round or upsetting anyone. It’s just a door! We get on well with her and we’d like to keep it that way.

Yes, filming may be the way. You don't have to show her but you can show that there is no noise outside normal residential activity in your property. The video will be time-stamped and it will be clear that the noise is not coming from your property.

RosesAndHellebores · 06/07/2025 13:26

I would simply not engage.

I feel sorry for the dogs.

She sounds more barking than the dogs. It is entirely possible that she is very unwell.

OnlyTheBravest · 06/07/2025 13:27

@JanuaryFlowers you will not lose you tenancy. It takes a lot for people to even get a warning.

What you do need to do is live your life and not worry about the unhinged neighbour. There is always one on every estate. Everyone knows who they are and they know you are not the issue. You are just unlucky that they live next to you.

Do not open the door or interact if she wants to 'talk' to you, keep your distance and be civil. You could use any excuse "sorry kids were in the bath", "I was on the phone". Sooner or later when she does not get a response from you she will hopefully move onto someone else.

I would keep records of any anti-social issues and keep your HA updated. There should be a policy about bullying/ASBO and what steps they will take. If your neighbour scales up her behaviour, make sure the HA follow their policy.

AuntyHistamine · 06/07/2025 13:38

Sounds like it has already escalated with her bonkers behaviour. She sounds unhinged banging her own doors then blaming you. What she is doing is harassment and she clearly isn’t the full ticket. In your situation I would block her and then start gathering evidence of the 1am dog barking.

Glitterb · 06/07/2025 13:39

I don’t doubt she can hear you, however it just sounds like normal household noise which is unfortunate in new build houses, it sounds like her problem and she needs to move. We can hear our neighbours but it just the way it is!

TorroFerney · 06/07/2025 13:43

JanuaryFlowers · 06/07/2025 11:51

You are right, I know I am being abit of a doormat. I'm just worried about losing our house. I never, ever want to be homeless again.

I just don't understand why she is being this way? We have been fine for the first three years. I take her parcels in, she has taken in mine. Our kids play together. She knocked on my door two weeks ago asking for help starting her works van, and my husband did go out and help her even with all this going on because we don't want negativity. We don't crap with our neighbours but it's the anonymous complaint that has done me.

I'm ill so can't drive at the moment, so have taken one of our vehicles off the road because there is no point paying two lots of road tax and insurance. So we've sorned it until winter. The housing association is fine with that after our chat with them, but it's the fact she is complaining about everything now.. it is effecting how we interact when we drive up to our house. We were happy, chatting and laughing.. now we walk in complete silence even during the bloody day. I just don't know what her issue with us is.

why do you need to understand why she is like she is, it's totally irrelevant to you why she does this. Don't waste energy on that. Do you think you can "nice" her out of it? What could she say to explain why she is like that which would be acceptable?

anyzen · 06/07/2025 13:53

I agree with others and Do Not Engage, block her number if she continues to contact you that way. Get a doorbell camera and do not answer the door if she approaches.

I think many of these people are insecure or at the opposite end, are bullies. If they don't get a rise out of you their harrassment is fruitless.

Do keep a diary and filmed records though, and put everything together, and do what a pp said and speak to the HA about (initially) wanting to get her behaviour on the record in case it escalates.

You will not lose your tenancy or your house, so don't worry about that. But your peaceful enjoyment of your property is something you should work hard to retrieve and cherish. Your life is just as important as hers.

Bearinthesmallmessyflat · 06/07/2025 13:53

Recording and reporting her behaviour isn’t tit for tat for tat or being petty, it’s protecting yourself in case her behaviour continues or escalates.
I hope it all gets sorted quickly and easily for you op, it’s such a stressful situation to be in

FrustratedC0ffeeDrinker · 06/07/2025 13:57

You are not being unreasonable at all. The HA have no grounds to evict you, and even if they did it would take hell of a lot of evidence to get you out. So do not worry about this. The neighbour is harassing you. Ask the HA what their policy for dealing with vexatious complainants, and what they intend to do about your neighbour harassing you. Her behaviour is anti-social and the HA have a legal duty to investigate ASB. Take a look at the Housiing Ombudsman website for further advice. It sounds like her behaviour will escalate so I would keep records of dates and times.

Tinytimmy123 · 06/07/2025 14:01

I worked with a bully. It got so bad that I started to record the daily 'events' on my mobile phone as I drove home from work. I recorded myself talking about what had happened. Anyone looking at me would probably assume I was talking on hands free phone. It came in useful when she accused me of various things at a later date that I hadn't done and I had a fulsome record of why that wasn't the case.
So if you want a voice record your phone will time stamp it.
Alternatively email a record of events to yourself as it is also time stamped.
I would also get myself home cctv inside and out.