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To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 02:04

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

I read Raynor Winn's book The Salt Path and her other two books. I was looking forward to seeing the film at some point and to reading her next book. I felt sorry to read about the challenges the couple had faced, especially with regard to losing their family home and with Moth's health. Now, having read the article in today's Observer, I feel a bit stunned and am not sure what to think.

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal it was far from the truth

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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NescafeAndIce · 06/07/2025 19:22

PandoraSocks · 06/07/2025 19:07

Excellent detective skills, Widdlin!

It was also posted on here (by me) earlier this afternoon HmmGrin

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:23

Abra1t · 06/07/2025 19:13

I’m devastated by the Salt Path ‘lies’. It meant so much to me

https://www.thetimes.com/article/94a85307-8a4f-444a-a8ee-ab81739277e4?shareToken=7f7ba42cd538c0e58a77b56a18680888

I can’t read it as it’s behind the paywall. Are you able to share a link to it please? Or at least the gist of the article?

RoyalCorgi · 06/07/2025 19:24

In the Times article, the picture of Moth shows him looking the picture of health.

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:25

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 19:19

Good call!’he does look like him!!

On casting — entirely coincidentally, I listened to the Kermode and Mayo podcast today, when they had Jason Isaacs on talking about the film. He was so audibly genuinely enthusiastic and admiring about Moth’s courage and humility and goodness, it made me actually feel sad.

That makes me feel sad too. He did seem very enthusiastic about the film when promoting it. Off-topic, but I always like reading/watching interviews with JI.

DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 19:25

With regard to names, I wondered if Moth/Tim's middle name was Ray or Raymond - leading to Raynor - as he has signed TR Walker on one document from The Observer article. It is however apparently Ronald.

I also wondered if Tim Walker is the same person as Tim Scott listed on the Gangani website. Companies House lists Tim Walker as director of Gangani.

I then wondered whether Raynor Winn/Sally Walker is the author of the lottery ticket/Gangani book How Not to Dal Dy Dir? The photo of the author could possibly be her. Izzy Wyn-Thomas >> Winn? I understand that Wyn is a Welsh name meaning fair, blessed. She is fair and is now certainly blessed with a lot of book and film royalties!

I wonder what Raynor/Sally's maiden name is?

That's a lot of wondering.

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RoyalCorgi · 06/07/2025 19:26

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:23

I can’t read it as it’s behind the paywall. Are you able to share a link to it please? Or at least the gist of the article?

The link has a share token, so you should be able to read it.

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:28

DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 19:25

With regard to names, I wondered if Moth/Tim's middle name was Ray or Raymond - leading to Raynor - as he has signed TR Walker on one document from The Observer article. It is however apparently Ronald.

I also wondered if Tim Walker is the same person as Tim Scott listed on the Gangani website. Companies House lists Tim Walker as director of Gangani.

I then wondered whether Raynor Winn/Sally Walker is the author of the lottery ticket/Gangani book How Not to Dal Dy Dir? The photo of the author could possibly be her. Izzy Wyn-Thomas >> Winn? I understand that Wyn is a Welsh name meaning fair, blessed. She is fair and is now certainly blessed with a lot of book and film royalties!

I wonder what Raynor/Sally's maiden name is?

That's a lot of wondering.

Very good point. I’ve started doing a bit of sleuthing on here - https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl - but not come up with much so far.

FreeBMD - Search

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

despairofbadscience · 06/07/2025 19:33

Abra1t · 06/07/2025 19:13

I’m devastated by the Salt Path ‘lies’. It meant so much to me

https://www.thetimes.com/article/94a85307-8a4f-444a-a8ee-ab81739277e4?shareToken=7f7ba42cd538c0e58a77b56a18680888

Wow the times got this out quickly

BeachPebbleWave · 06/07/2025 19:34

NescafeAndIce · 06/07/2025 19:19

The month before we had had a full audit and the auditors had picked up nothing.

Bloody hell, @BeachPebbleWave - what's the point of them, then?!

I know. I think everyone saw the owner as very challenging and difficult and the finance director as affable, frustrated and overworked. This included the auditors. There was a complete lack of professional curiosity all round - I count myself in this.

The owner sometimes refused to toe the line on legal, HR, finance issues (eg. tax). He was very old school stuck in his ways. The finance director was seen as the poor man trying to make the business compliant. This allowed him to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 19:37

Abra1t · 06/07/2025 19:13

I’m devastated by the Salt Path ‘lies’. It meant so much to me

https://www.thetimes.com/article/94a85307-8a4f-444a-a8ee-ab81739277e4?shareToken=7f7ba42cd538c0e58a77b56a18680888

Another envious lady journalist Grin

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:39

Uricon2 · 06/07/2025 19:21

I've lived in Wales. It's a bloody stupid title, incomprehensible to non Welsh speakers and annoying to those who are IMO.

What does it mean? 😂

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:39

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 19:37

Another envious lady journalist Grin

😂😂

TheaBrandt1 · 06/07/2025 19:41

I also find the assumption that being poor makes you somehow morally superior quite annoying. Quite a lefty hippy tiresome trope.

helphelpimbeingrepressed · 06/07/2025 19:42

despairofbadscience · 06/07/2025 19:33

Wow the times got this out quickly

Isn’t it interesting how they’ve done it! they’re not saying the observer was right, but flagging all the stuff that doesn’t add up… clearly feel the need to report it but don’t have time to get the lawyers on to it!

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 19:42

TheaBrandt1 · 06/07/2025 19:41

I also find the assumption that being poor makes you somehow morally superior quite annoying. Quite a lefty hippy tiresome trope.

Or rather "being poor but not the kind of person who would be able to live in a council house"

Bruisername · 06/07/2025 19:45

People like this (fraudsters who think living off other people is their right) are thick skinned. They’ll be feeling outraged that they’ve been called out and will be fine tuning the victim narrative as we speak

they'll be gutted it’s not the Mail as the Observer is far harder to rail against

DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 19:47

a beginners guide to asset-stripping
her book grew from the idea that nothing is as it seems

The above from the Gangani bio of the Izzy Wyn-Thomas' book. Prophetic?

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MikeRafone · 06/07/2025 19:47

Do you think they actually walked the coast path in its entirety - or did they get a few lifts, catch the bus eat fudge?

`it has enticed me to walk parts of the path, perhaps two r three days here and there

MikeRafone · 06/07/2025 19:48

helphelpimbeingrepressed · 06/07/2025 19:42

Isn’t it interesting how they’ve done it! they’re not saying the observer was right, but flagging all the stuff that doesn’t add up… clearly feel the need to report it but don’t have time to get the lawyers on to it!

They will have known the story was going to break and had this in the pipeline ready

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 19:48

MikeRafone · 06/07/2025 19:47

Do you think they actually walked the coast path in its entirety - or did they get a few lifts, catch the bus eat fudge?

`it has enticed me to walk parts of the path, perhaps two r three days here and there

They mention getting the bus once, and I always thought this was a bit of a "cover story" in case they were called out for having been spotted on buses. So yes,.I think if they were able to lie about how they became homeless they will think nothing or lying about how much or the path they walked.

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:49

Bruisername · 06/07/2025 19:45

People like this (fraudsters who think living off other people is their right) are thick skinned. They’ll be feeling outraged that they’ve been called out and will be fine tuning the victim narrative as we speak

they'll be gutted it’s not the Mail as the Observer is far harder to rail against

Haha true! Maybe the Mail has some sort of gentleman’s agreement with the Observer to not run the story at all, to avoid getting involved? I know that sounds far-fetched 😂 but interesting that the Mail have still not published the story.

LivelyCat · 06/07/2025 19:52

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 12:07

The silence - and absence - of their children (who must be well into adulthood by now) is pretty damning

FWIW she mentions and features her daughter on her Instagram account sometimes.

LivelyCat · 06/07/2025 19:53

Sgreenpy · 06/07/2025 12:01

I'm assuming that the £100k loan against the house was used to pay her employer back and thus avoid any further action, regarding embezzlement, with the police. That bit is omitted from The Observer article, for some reason.

I enjoyed the film though, it seemed quite fictional to me anyhow. I did expect that Moth would have died by now though if indeed he did have the illness claimed.

It is mentioned in the article that they used it for that (at least some of it).

Uricon2 · 06/07/2025 19:54

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 19:39

What does it mean? 😂

My Welsh is very, very (very) limited but dal yr dil apparently means "hold your ground". Yes, I used a translator!

Few letters different and it would be "catch the dragon" which seems apposite for their current situation.

ETA I have massive doubts that Ray/Sally is a Welsh speaker either, which makes it even more odd. Who was she hoping to appeal to? I know enough to know that the Welsh guard their beautiful (and difficult😂) language, as they should, hence thinking they would be pissed off with this weird hybrid.

Disturbia81 · 06/07/2025 20:00

I loved the film, I love the story. She could have just said based on a true story but parts embellished and it would still have been successful

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