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To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 02:04

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

I read Raynor Winn's book The Salt Path and her other two books. I was looking forward to seeing the film at some point and to reading her next book. I felt sorry to read about the challenges the couple had faced, especially with regard to losing their family home and with Moth's health. Now, having read the article in today's Observer, I feel a bit stunned and am not sure what to think.

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal it was far from the truth

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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AveriltheAvidReader · 06/07/2025 15:22

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 15:14

So she got one of their agents.

Interesting. She must have had advice/ a leg up from someone because as a complete beginner she'd have to work her way through all the dozens of agents out there. GMC are pretty solid and well established.

Her writing really isn't good at all.

I've just dipped into it again and the language is 'pedestrian' to put it mildly. Pun intended.

Agoddessonamountaintop · 06/07/2025 15:25

I read this for book club years ago; she lost me when she said she couldn’t possibly live in a council house as what would the neighbours think? Also didn’t care that her children had nowhere to come home to. The sense of superiority and entitlement radiated off every page.

But I just thought she was wingeing over losing out on a potentially lucrative investment which she’d have happily crowed about had it paid off. Didn’t make the leap that they were a pair of robbing lying scumbags.

Alacartemenu · 06/07/2025 15:27

MeridianB · 06/07/2025 08:07

And ironic that they changed their name from Walker. 🤔

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this comment is worth it's weight in gold ✨️

Noshadelamp · 06/07/2025 15:27

WestwardHo1 · 06/07/2025 12:17

And she freely admitted stealing from shops in Cornwall and climbing over campsite fences after dark to pitch their tent and use the facilities without paying, then fuck off before dawn.

I know a person who owns one of these campsites where they did this. It really upset them, as it prompted a spate of copy cat behaviour. No the campsite isn't cheap - go somewhere else if you don't want to pay the prices. No one opens a campsite to get rich.

I was amazed at how she put this in the book! And if you do get caught and realised you can't pay at a campsite, don't use the facilities!

It makes you wonder what else they did that even they deemed too unethical to put in the book.

I didn't like how they talked about the old surf barn man, can't remember the exact place but she was very judgemental and almost aghast at the way they lived and their attitudes, which was a bit "kettle black".

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 15:32

AveriltheAvidReader · 06/07/2025 15:22

So she got one of their agents.

Interesting. She must have had advice/ a leg up from someone because as a complete beginner she'd have to work her way through all the dozens of agents out there. GMC are pretty solid and well established.

Her writing really isn't good at all.

I've just dipped into it again and the language is 'pedestrian' to put it mildly. Pun intended.

Edited

Again, not necessarily. I just sent my debut novel (well, whatever number of chapters each one specified, plus a pitch letter) out to 10 agents. A couple never replied, a couple said no, five said ‘Send us the full MS’, three of those offered representation, and I chose one. Who was a young, starting-out agent, at one of the big agencies, building her list. Obviously some debut authors do query dozens of agents and get no interest.

Non-fiction, which I know less about, operates a bit differently. An agent might sell a book to a publisher on the strength of a sample chapter and a strong idea, so the agency might have been interested in The Salt Path on the basis of a strong idea (redemptive tale of hopelessness and walking the coastal path) and a writing sample. Raynor Winn/Sally Walker may have queried them, or an agent might sell t from there may have approached her if they’d seen her writing somewhere.

EmmaStone · 06/07/2025 15:33

£6 I paid for that book. I want my money back!

Rallentanda · 06/07/2025 15:33

Whatever happened, there have to be a few people in the trade with their heads in their hands right about now!

Dearover · 06/07/2025 15:37

Choux · 06/07/2025 15:06

Quite but as she was claiming her name was Sally Walker and the farm location was not given no one googling could find anything out or make a connection to the real story.

I wonder how much Penguin knew? If she is still legally Sally Walker all her royalty payments would need to be made in that name. And any agent or manager would have a contract with Sally. So they are the only ones who could fact check anything prior to publication and the real name of the author was probably tightly controlled so few people knew it wasn’t her real name. .

i imagine that eventually one of the wives of the man she defrauded of £64k or the wife of the man who loaned her the £100k realised that Raynor was actually Sally and was so outraged that they contacted the journalist.

Edited

She is listed at Companies House as Raynor Winn, not Sally Walker.

TheaBrandt1 · 06/07/2025 15:38

Admittedly years ago but used to work in this field as a trainee - courts are very slow to actually enforce judgement to kick people out of their homes. There are lots of stages before that happens which is why I was suspicious of this from outset. Plus her woe is me plucky country folk done over by big business thing got right on my nerves. I was seen as a meanie by my book group but I guess I was proved right <smug>

CremeEggThief · 06/07/2025 15:44

I always thought it was a good read but with only a hint of truth.

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 15:45

Rallentanda · 06/07/2025 14:50

Writers don't usually have a say over film rights. From what I understand they are owned by the publishers and sold off as and when in various ways eg a tv series here, a film in another territory there. It looks like Sally Walker/Raynor Winn was a consultant on the film so she'd have been paid that way. Quite brazen, really, to do the promo for it.

I hope nobody has a back-end deal. Sometimes actors will take low pay and a percentage of the profits. Surely nobody's going to go and see it now?

What’s a back end deal? Is that when they accept low pay and a percentage of the profits, as you write here? Hopefully no one will lose out that way, as it seems like it’s been quite a popular film already.

Agoddessonamountaintop · 06/07/2025 15:46

TheaBrandt1 · 06/07/2025 15:38

Admittedly years ago but used to work in this field as a trainee - courts are very slow to actually enforce judgement to kick people out of their homes. There are lots of stages before that happens which is why I was suspicious of this from outset. Plus her woe is me plucky country folk done over by big business thing got right on my nerves. I was seen as a meanie by my book group but I guess I was proved right <smug>

I feel your pain; I’m always the cynical one at book club.

summerholidaynow · 06/07/2025 15:46

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 15:32

Again, not necessarily. I just sent my debut novel (well, whatever number of chapters each one specified, plus a pitch letter) out to 10 agents. A couple never replied, a couple said no, five said ‘Send us the full MS’, three of those offered representation, and I chose one. Who was a young, starting-out agent, at one of the big agencies, building her list. Obviously some debut authors do query dozens of agents and get no interest.

Non-fiction, which I know less about, operates a bit differently. An agent might sell a book to a publisher on the strength of a sample chapter and a strong idea, so the agency might have been interested in The Salt Path on the basis of a strong idea (redemptive tale of hopelessness and walking the coastal path) and a writing sample. Raynor Winn/Sally Walker may have queried them, or an agent might sell t from there may have approached her if they’d seen her writing somewhere.

Edited

I'm a published writer. It's no surprise she got an agent and a good deal (which then became other great deals). Her writing might be pedestrian but it's decent enough and the story is gold. Perfect non-fiction. it has a great engine driving a personal story - loss, illness, financial instability, resilience, victory... similar to Cheryl Strayed's Wild (although Wild is infinitely better).

HighTideTurn · 06/07/2025 15:48

Were Winn/Walker’s agent aware of her past? Worrying if they weren’t… and even more worrying if they were. Interestingly, there is an article from 2017 in the Big Issue in which Winn explores the issue of rural homelessness. This article appeared before The Salt Path was published, and in it she describes how they became homeless as a result of “a financial dispute with a lifelong friend that led to a court case…” Rather different to the description in The Salt Path of a failed investment of ‘a substantial sum’ of their own money to a close friend of Moth’s who insisted they then repay a large debt when the investment failed. Was it decided to change the narrative because ‘a financial dispute’ raises questions about what the dispute involved, whereas a failed investment doesn’t? If so, who decided to change the narrative? Winn by herself? Winn in conjunction with her agent? Or Winn in conjunction with her publisher and agent?

Big Issue - Rural homelessness

"In rural England the homeless are a problem to be hidden..."

When Raynor Winn and her husband became homeless and he was diagnosed with a terminal illness, they packed their rucksacks and began walking the South West Coast Path. She tells her extraordinary story of prejudice, hidden communities and finding home

https://www.bigissue.com/news/housing/rural-england-homeless-problem-hidden/

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 15:48

MeridianB · 06/07/2025 08:07

And ironic that they changed their name from Walker. 🤔

I adore this comment 😂😂😂

DworkinWasRight · 06/07/2025 15:49

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · 06/07/2025 15:18

Goodness! I am relieved (in a way) to find what a phoney the author (and book) really are. I found her very irritating and self-centred and it didn't grip me. I kept thinking I would have hated to run into her if I had been on that walk. I now wonder how much of the walk, if any, they actually did. I recommend people who feel cheated by this revelation cleanse their minds by reading an excellent and entertaining account of the same walk by Mark Wallington, who really did do it some years ago with his flatmate's dog (a London dog) - "500-mile Walkies".

Isn’t that the book she says inspired them to do the walk?

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 15:50

summerholidaynow · 06/07/2025 15:46

I'm a published writer. It's no surprise she got an agent and a good deal (which then became other great deals). Her writing might be pedestrian but it's decent enough and the story is gold. Perfect non-fiction. it has a great engine driving a personal story - loss, illness, financial instability, resilience, victory... similar to Cheryl Strayed's Wild (although Wild is infinitely better).

Yeah, my agent would have snapped it up!

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 06/07/2025 15:51

Oooh quelle surprise!

I must admit I haven't read the book but I'm a huge fan of Jason Isaacs and have watched/ listen to him give many interviews about this film over the last few weeks and every time he's explained the premise it's niggled me because so much just didn't make any sense.

Much like with the Moores I'm now wondering how on earth they thought they could get away with this not coming out somewhere down the line.

Fanacapan · 06/07/2025 15:52

I enjoyed the book and have walked some of the SW coast path in chunks, I didn’t like the film it was too silly! I wonder how much of the book is actually true, what came first, the walk or the idea for a book? Did they really rough it as much as she said? I guess we’ll never know!

BungledBundle · 06/07/2025 15:53

As an aside, how do you embezzle as a bookkeeper? I am doing some basic bookkeeping for a family member so admittedly am not an expert at complex stuff, but everything is recorded, ticked off, reconciled etc. It then all goes to an accountant once a year.

How can you just syphon off thousands without it being noticed? Was it easier when it was manual not computerised? Surely bank statements still needed to be reconciled?

Choux · 06/07/2025 15:54

Dearover · 06/07/2025 15:37

She is listed at Companies House as Raynor Winn, not Sally Walker.

The listing as Raynor Winn is no longer active. She has as her address there Haye Farm in Cornwall which I think is the Cider Farm Rick Stein visited. Interestingly the accounts for that company are overdue although she is no longer a director so not her issue.

Under Sally Walker (with the same birthdate) there is another company. The two active officers listed are Sally Walker and Tim Walker. So legally I think she is still Sally Walker.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12547141/officers

FOUR HARES LTD people - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

FOUR HARES LTD - Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12547141/officers

HalloweenGrinch · 06/07/2025 15:54

I have a theory about the CBD.

I think Moth developed symptoms as a result of the stress of losing the house etc etc. They looked a bit like CBD or PD and he saw some drs who couldn't really explain it. Maybe some slighty odd MRI/DAT findings which were hard to interpret. This diagnosis was grasped as it sounds better than 'stress-related neurological symptoms'. The brain is phenomenal and can create all sorts of (very real) issues that don't represent an organic disorder.

Then they went walking and he started feeling better. But the story works better if he is 'properly ill'. And by now, there are lots of lies, so one more doesn't hurt.

And then it all snowballs. Obviously all speculation on my part, but I can see how it might happen.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 15:55

BungledBundle · 06/07/2025 15:53

As an aside, how do you embezzle as a bookkeeper? I am doing some basic bookkeeping for a family member so admittedly am not an expert at complex stuff, but everything is recorded, ticked off, reconciled etc. It then all goes to an accountant once a year.

How can you just syphon off thousands without it being noticed? Was it easier when it was manual not computerised? Surely bank statements still needed to be reconciled?

They said she was faking invoices ...

That's quite a common way of stealing money sadly

comoatoupeira · 06/07/2025 15:56

I heard them interviewed on Woman's hour and I thought they sounded weirdly shifty. Now it all makes sense!

comoatoupeira · 06/07/2025 15:56

maybe more cagey than shifty

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