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To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 02:04

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

I read Raynor Winn's book The Salt Path and her other two books. I was looking forward to seeing the film at some point and to reading her next book. I felt sorry to read about the challenges the couple had faced, especially with regard to losing their family home and with Moth's health. Now, having read the article in today's Observer, I feel a bit stunned and am not sure what to think.

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal it was far from the truth

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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Choux · 06/07/2025 15:56

BungledBundle · 06/07/2025 15:53

As an aside, how do you embezzle as a bookkeeper? I am doing some basic bookkeeping for a family member so admittedly am not an expert at complex stuff, but everything is recorded, ticked off, reconciled etc. It then all goes to an accountant once a year.

How can you just syphon off thousands without it being noticed? Was it easier when it was manual not computerised? Surely bank statements still needed to be reconciled?

I watched the observer video on X. Apparently she submitted fake invoices from bogus companies and they then got paid presumably into her own account. She also had cash takings she was supposed to deposit at the bank but the deposits were never made.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 15:57

Choux · 06/07/2025 15:54

The listing as Raynor Winn is no longer active. She has as her address there Haye Farm in Cornwall which I think is the Cider Farm Rick Stein visited. Interestingly the accounts for that company are overdue although she is no longer a director so not her issue.

Under Sally Walker (with the same birthdate) there is another company. The two active officers listed are Sally Walker and Tim Walker. So legally I think she is still Sally Walker.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12547141/officers

Yes especially when you look at the nature of the business - it's listed as "artistic creation" and "cultural education"

Dearover · 06/07/2025 16:00

Keenovay · 06/07/2025 13:40

The folk on social media saying "I knew it!", reminds me of threads on Websleuths, where after pages of speculation about numerous suspects somebody is charged, then everyone claims to have known he was a wrong 'un from the start. No-one could have known, until this additional context came to light. The book resonated with millions of people, with word of mouth sales and subsequent film adaptation. I found it well-written and engaging and if some details were glossed over, I just assumed that was for legal reasons.

I don't understand why the author didn't think things would eventually catch up with them, as the book then film's success threw an ever brighter spotlight on them. Unpopular opinion - but I hope she is OK and can survive this, as I still think she's a good writer. She'd need to make amends of course - but it sounds like the debts were paid off once the house was repossessed. The only readers she may have harmed are those with CBD, if Moth's diagnosis was misrepresented. Otherwise, the venom and glee about her "grifting" and downfall seems disproportionate. Two articles and a video in today's Observer?

Search The Salt Path and you will find many threads and reviews over the years querying the background to the book and their attitude

BungledBundle · 06/07/2025 16:00

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 15:55

They said she was faking invoices ...

That's quite a common way of stealing money sadly

Yikes. That's interesting though. The processes in the business I work for would sniff that out so that's reassuring. Have just googled bookkeeper fraud too - quite illuminating. Thanks.

I haven't read the book(s) but glad they are being found out and that the woman whose husband was wronged now has the truth out.

WestwardHo1 · 06/07/2025 16:01

Choux · 06/07/2025 15:56

I watched the observer video on X. Apparently she submitted fake invoices from bogus companies and they then got paid presumably into her own account. She also had cash takings she was supposed to deposit at the bank but the deposits were never made.

It's one thing being really shit with money and making poor financial decisions.

This stuff is another level.

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 16:01

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 14:29

She should still be proud of her work — I think her beautiful cover designs were a key part of the books’ appeal. (But I understand why she might not want it to be something she’s associated with. Just as I imagine Gillian Anderson and Jason Isaacs are also saying ‘Oh, fuck’ after they’ve been promoting the film with the Walkers.)

Agree with all of this!

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 16:04

HighTideTurn · 06/07/2025 15:48

Were Winn/Walker’s agent aware of her past? Worrying if they weren’t… and even more worrying if they were. Interestingly, there is an article from 2017 in the Big Issue in which Winn explores the issue of rural homelessness. This article appeared before The Salt Path was published, and in it she describes how they became homeless as a result of “a financial dispute with a lifelong friend that led to a court case…” Rather different to the description in The Salt Path of a failed investment of ‘a substantial sum’ of their own money to a close friend of Moth’s who insisted they then repay a large debt when the investment failed. Was it decided to change the narrative because ‘a financial dispute’ raises questions about what the dispute involved, whereas a failed investment doesn’t? If so, who decided to change the narrative? Winn by herself? Winn in conjunction with her agent? Or Winn in conjunction with her publisher and agent?

Big Issue - Rural homelessness

Look, it’s not like lawyer taking on a client! I’m trying to think what my agent knows about me after three novels — she knows me as a writer, but she knows very little about my past, for instance, as I write fiction. I don’t think the narrative of the Big Issue piece differs significantly from that in The Salt Path — they both always sounded vague and not very plausible on the court case , but that could easily be ascribed to someone not wanting a lawsuit brought against a book, so being vague about exactly what caused their homelessness.

So it’s not possible to say what RW’s agent knew/knows about her, but it would be vanishingly unlikely for an agent taking on a new client to question them about whether they have a criminal past (unless their memoir was about it).

This is the standard code of practice for literary agencies.

https://agentsassoc.co.uk/about/code-of-practice/

Code of Practice | Association of Authors' Agents

Our Code of Practice. The AAA code of practice shares the key responsibilities, duties, and best practices expected by the member agencies.

https://agentsassoc.co.uk/about/code-of-practice/

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 06/07/2025 16:04

I remember Gillian Anderson saying that she found Raynor really guarded when she met her, which she thought was odd considering GA was going to be portraying her. This would explain it.

Thank god the CTMs family grift fell apart before they even got the film script written.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 16:04

AWanderingFool · 06/07/2025 14:22

Angela Harding (the artist who did the covers for all the books) seems to have deleted all reference to the books on Insta and her website. I know she posted about them as they came up in my feed.

It's awful to think of all the people who have been hurt by this awful deceit
Her artwork was lovely

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 16:06

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 16:04

It's awful to think of all the people who have been hurt by this awful deceit
Her artwork was lovely

Have just followed Angela Harding on insta, her work is lovely

user1469207397 · 06/07/2025 16:07

Raynor is also part of “Saltlines” a collaboration with folk band Gigspinner - she writes and recites the prose.
Touring throughout the summer- I wonder if this will be pulled?
Saw this in Wells. Music great but prose very much self indulgent clap trap in my humble opinion- relieved I didn’t spend money on a ticket for my husband- don’t think he would have lasted till the interval!😂

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 06/07/2025 16:07

Jason Isaacs are also saying ‘Oh, fuck’ after they’ve been promoting the film with the Walkers.)

JI hardly ever plays anything other than villains so this is possibly more fitting for him 🤣.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 16:08

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 16:04

Look, it’s not like lawyer taking on a client! I’m trying to think what my agent knows about me after three novels — she knows me as a writer, but she knows very little about my past, for instance, as I write fiction. I don’t think the narrative of the Big Issue piece differs significantly from that in The Salt Path — they both always sounded vague and not very plausible on the court case , but that could easily be ascribed to someone not wanting a lawsuit brought against a book, so being vague about exactly what caused their homelessness.

So it’s not possible to say what RW’s agent knew/knows about her, but it would be vanishingly unlikely for an agent taking on a new client to question them about whether they have a criminal past (unless their memoir was about it).

This is the standard code of practice for literary agencies.

https://agentsassoc.co.uk/about/code-of-practice/

But the holes jumped out of the story. Anyone with any sense would have spotted that. I didn't expect criminality but it was obvious something was very amiss.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 16:10

user1469207397 · 06/07/2025 16:07

Raynor is also part of “Saltlines” a collaboration with folk band Gigspinner - she writes and recites the prose.
Touring throughout the summer- I wonder if this will be pulled?
Saw this in Wells. Music great but prose very much self indulgent clap trap in my humble opinion- relieved I didn’t spend money on a ticket for my husband- don’t think he would have lasted till the interval!😂

Tickets are currently still for sale for the tour....

HighTideTurn · 06/07/2025 16:10

HighTideTurn · 06/07/2025 15:48

Were Winn/Walker’s agent aware of her past? Worrying if they weren’t… and even more worrying if they were. Interestingly, there is an article from 2017 in the Big Issue in which Winn explores the issue of rural homelessness. This article appeared before The Salt Path was published, and in it she describes how they became homeless as a result of “a financial dispute with a lifelong friend that led to a court case…” Rather different to the description in The Salt Path of a failed investment of ‘a substantial sum’ of their own money to a close friend of Moth’s who insisted they then repay a large debt when the investment failed. Was it decided to change the narrative because ‘a financial dispute’ raises questions about what the dispute involved, whereas a failed investment doesn’t? If so, who decided to change the narrative? Winn by herself? Winn in conjunction with her agent? Or Winn in conjunction with her publisher and agent?

Big Issue - Rural homelessness

Also… what do people think of the mysterious author Izzy Wyn-Thomas, whose book published by the company run by Tim/Moth, and was integral to the attempt described in The Observer to raffle the Welsh property? Interesting that the book description on Amazon mentions how “Ellias and Baxter arrive in North Wales with a van full of children and dreams for their future. They aren’t expecting the investment that their future is based on to go so painfully wrong.” Sound familiar?!?

https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Dal-Dy-Dir/dp/0957303106

How Not to Dal Dy Dir: Wyn-Thomas, Izzy: 9780957303102: Amazon.com: Books

How Not to Dal Dy Dir [Wyn-Thomas, Izzy] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. How Not to Dal Dy Dir

https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Dal-Dy-Dir/dp/0957303106?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-am-i-being-unreasonable-5368194-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film

Movinghouseatlast · 06/07/2025 16:10

AveriltheAvidReader · 06/07/2025 13:32

she looks very uncomfortable in the video like someone who is not used to any public speaking or being on camera.

Shifty glances to the camera, hesitant or gushy speech.

I don't know whether to give my book to a charity shop (seems a bit 'off' that anyone would buy it if all of this is true) or chuck it in the paper recycling bin.

When Ronnie Wood left his wife Jo just as I finished his autobiography which was dedicated to her I threw it on a fire in my garden. Very satisfying it was too.

Uricon2 · 06/07/2025 16:11

This is pure speculation but aren't they living in a "borrowed" house? There must be a fair amount of "spare" money from earnings related to the books/film. Be interesting to know where it was put and if it is easily accessible should they decide to drop out of view.

Choux · 06/07/2025 16:12

From X “This was an open secret in the narrative non-fiction world. I've known for six years. Everyone knew.”

To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 16:12

I note Sally/Raynor is also due to speak at Latitude festival

NescafeAndIce · 06/07/2025 16:13

Not read this thread, just the Observer article.

I found an archived version of the gangani publishing website where they were offering their home as a prize:

web.archive.org/web/20120628120623/www.ganganipublishing.co.uk/

Songlines · 06/07/2025 16:14

user1469207397 · 06/07/2025 16:07

Raynor is also part of “Saltlines” a collaboration with folk band Gigspinner - she writes and recites the prose.
Touring throughout the summer- I wonder if this will be pulled?
Saw this in Wells. Music great but prose very much self indulgent clap trap in my humble opinion- relieved I didn’t spend money on a ticket for my husband- don’t think he would have lasted till the interval!😂

I loved the music of Saltlines. Gigspanner are a fantastic band and the music was a wonderful evocation of the South West. I heard it very early on but haven't been to see it again as I found her very self indulgent. The musicians didn't stand in the way of the music but she stood in the way of the words.

thenightsky · 06/07/2025 16:14

BeCosyExpert · 06/07/2025 11:08

Three friends and myself did South West Coastal path July 1978. Passages in The Salt Path DID NOT match The South-West Peninsula Coastal Path published LettsGuide in 1978 and 1980 a copy of which I own. The section we walked from Hartland Point, Longpeak, Chisel Ridge, Welcombe Mouth is extremely challenging with 3 very steep combes to climb and descend. No-one with walking difficulties carrying 40 pound ruck sack could have navigated these stretches of coast!! In my view. My three friends and myself were in our twenties and reasonably fit and we wild-camped the whole time. We went for two weeks and only got to Porthtowen! I kept a diary and photos, sadly two of my friends are no longer with us. Happy Days!!

That's exactly what a member of my book club said. She is an experienced long distance hiker and said those 3 very steep climbs with backpacks would take ages longer.

summertimeinLondon · 06/07/2025 16:16

Choux · 06/07/2025 15:54

The listing as Raynor Winn is no longer active. She has as her address there Haye Farm in Cornwall which I think is the Cider Farm Rick Stein visited. Interestingly the accounts for that company are overdue although she is no longer a director so not her issue.

Under Sally Walker (with the same birthdate) there is another company. The two active officers listed are Sally Walker and Tim Walker. So legally I think she is still Sally Walker.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12547141/officers

Good spot. After reading the book and thinking something was up with the whole thing, I also tried to do a bit of digging to find their real names but hit a dead end after finding one dead CH listing for Winn. (you can tell I’m not an investigative journalist! 😆) I did uncover an article from the US saying his real surname was Walker, so I should have thought to search Companies House for Walker plus birthdate of Raynor Winn.

I did wonder if someone at the publisher, agent or elsewhere tipped off the journalist to her real name? Their accounts department and editors will always have known it, for contracts and payments. However, as a pp said, there must have been the odd person who has met her under her real name and knows she’s also Raynor Winn of TSP —friends, relatives, people who know her kids (if they indeed exist!) and so on.

I’m amazed that it’s not come out earlier tbh, plus amazed that nobody at her agent/publisher/the film production company etc. ever thought to check her out on the details, or wonder if Moth’s illness was really as it seemed? Are they all completely credulous? It seemed fishy to me from the first chapter!

NescafeAndIce · 06/07/2025 16:17

Also this forum
https://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=25803.0

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 16:17

NescafeAndIce · 06/07/2025 16:13

Not read this thread, just the Observer article.

I found an archived version of the gangani publishing website where they were offering their home as a prize:

web.archive.org/web/20120628120623/www.ganganipublishing.co.uk/

The property even appeared on escape to the country!

I like how the website claimed they searched the countryside for the perfect property for the prize draw.

I guess that sounded better than "we are up to our necks in debt after years of criminality"

To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
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