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Ex charging me for being unwell

41 replies

Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:12

I am the main carer for DD (9). Her dad sees her every other weekend and on a Friday where he collects her from school at 4:30pm and drops her home Saturday morning at 10am. He has her for 15-20% of school holidays. His choice.

He provides child maintenance that he has varied downwards once by 5% in 5 years. He gave no reason for this.

He now has her more than he did at the start of the 5 years (one more day per week equivalent bracket) and has since had another child. He’s was on 6 figures when we split and I can’t imagine that his salary has not increased in that time.

Recently DD had an infection and he refused to care for her over that weekend as he didn’t want to catch it. I agreed and cared for DD. She was off school the following week too and I took time off work to look after her. Once she was well enough she went to her dads for his weekend.

I unfortunately caught the infection but it developed into a severe infection that left me hospitalised and temporarily blinded. He had to keep her an extra 8 nights whilst I recovered enough to be able to care for DD. Once I was well enough (barely) I had her back with me.

Now, he has, for those extra 8 nights ‘charged me’ 50% of the maintenance and given me only half of the monthly amount.
This is the first time he’s had her when I’ve been unwell as he is usually too busy and I have had my family and friends help or hired someone to help me if it was bad. I once got stranded in another country and couldn’t make it back for 2 days and he refused to keep her and dropped her with my DM.

The many times he has been unwell and I have changed my plans to look after her are numerous! He cancelled his weekend when she was ill, when he was ill, when his parents didn’t want him to see her incase he got ill and passed it onto them. When his partner was ill, when his baby was unwell. When he hurt his back. When he’s had work trips. There are a lot and not once have I ‘charged’ him for this privilege. I simply did it as a healthy co-parent and for my daughter.

So I’m really angry at him for doing this and feel it opens the door for him doing this again or me doing it. It’s just super unhealthy! Am I being unreasonable or is he? Any advice on what to do?!

Yes- you are being unreasonable
No- he is being unreasonable

On another note…He won’t disclose his salary. So I have no clue if he is even paying the right amount! He used to contribute 50% of her school fees but has refused to increase the amount over the years and with fees going up yearly plus VAT, he’s now only paying around 30% of DD school fees. I pay for all her extra curricular activities and 11+ tuition too as he claims he can’t afford it. I’m a single parent with another child from a previous relationship and I earn less than him and his partners combined income.

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Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:13

Sorry it’s so long and thank you for reading!!!

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Poopeepoopee · 03/07/2025 21:14

How much money are we actually talking about here?

wizzywig · 03/07/2025 21:15

What a twat he is. You should start charging him maintenance when he does this. Tell him now that you'll start doing what he is doing.
That infection sounds terrible. Hope you are back to normal soon

Slobberchops1 · 03/07/2025 21:17

what a tight arse .

Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:17

wizzywig · 03/07/2025 21:15

What a twat he is. You should start charging him maintenance when he does this. Tell him now that you'll start doing what he is doing.
That infection sounds terrible. Hope you are back to normal soon

Thank you lovely. It was awful but I am pretty much fully recovered now thankfully.
Yes my thoughts were the same, twat and other words came to mind when I saw it!

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dogcatkitten · 03/07/2025 21:18

Is this court ordered or just between you? Either way I might be getting it properly formalised he can't just change what he pays unilaterally. Did he give you more for the days he couldn't have your DC?

ExtraOnions · 03/07/2025 21:19

How was the maintenance agreed?

AbzMoz · 03/07/2025 21:19

Court process needed for transparency and dealing with the what ifs. Why are you letting him get away with these casual arrangements which aren’t in your/DD best interests?

OkimADHD · 03/07/2025 21:20

Go to the CMS

PonyPatter44 · 03/07/2025 21:21

Is he self-employed? If he is, you are probably out of luck. Just tell him to fuck off when he asks you for money. If he's actually employed, go through CMS and get them to collect the payment. These "men" who don't support their own children really are contemptible.

I hope you are fully recovered from your infection now. It must have been really scary.

millymoo1202 · 03/07/2025 21:21

Wow what a loving and caring father! Not. Go through CMS

Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:22

dogcatkitten · 03/07/2025 21:18

Is this court ordered or just between you? Either way I might be getting it properly formalised he can't just change what he pays unilaterally. Did he give you more for the days he couldn't have your DC?

It’s not court ordered. We made an agreement ourselves when we split up and it hasn’t really changed since then amount wise. Marginally reduced but he does have her slightly more now.

He didn’t increase the amount or subsidise in any way when he couldn’t have DD for various reasons. This is the first time he’s done something like this.

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Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:24

PonyPatter44 · 03/07/2025 21:21

Is he self-employed? If he is, you are probably out of luck. Just tell him to fuck off when he asks you for money. If he's actually employed, go through CMS and get them to collect the payment. These "men" who don't support their own children really are contemptible.

I hope you are fully recovered from your infection now. It must have been really scary.

Thank you, yes it was a very scary time and I was really concerned that I light lose my sight permanently and not be able to look after my children at all. Thankfully I’ve made a speedy recovery.

He is employed and if what I think his salary is he probably pays roughly the right amount. The school fee contribution is extra and I am unsure if a court would order him to pay that. Even though we both agreed on private education for primary school both before we split and after.

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Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:27

AbzMoz · 03/07/2025 21:19

Court process needed for transparency and dealing with the what ifs. Why are you letting him get away with these casual arrangements which aren’t in your/DD best interests?

I wonder if I would be worse off going to court as he may not be ordered to pay his contribution to her school fees that he does now, which are additional to the child maintenance amount.
It may be worth me speaking to a family lawyer and seeing what they have to say about the situation.

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alcoholnightmare · 03/07/2025 21:32

A friend has just had to pull her four children from private school as her ex refused to pay school fees. Totally got away with it in court.

Whistlingformysupper · 03/07/2025 22:01

He's not obliged to pay school fees. Unfortunately in the event of a divorce school fees are no longer affordable - if you want her to continue in private school you have to accept that the contribution he is making to the fees is part of the maintenance he pays, it's going on her.
But ultimately you need to go via CMS. Then whatever the amount is that he needs to pay, it's up to you what it's spent on, whether that's school fees or not.

AcademicallyAverageTeddy · 03/07/2025 22:06

Agree that it is morally reprehensible behaviour.

But sadly unless you have a court order or are claiming through CMS then there is nothing to stop him doing this.

How hard do you find it to cover school fees? It may be worth considering a switch out of private if it's a stretch. Then you can always go through CMS if he plays games with maintenance again.

It's grim that some men love to wield power through money post separation.

Here4thechocs · 03/07/2025 22:14

Please don’t go to CMS unless you can solely shoulder the responsibilities of her school fees , especially with secondary school approaching. It may be a bit much for just you, were he to stop paying her fees , which as mentioned above, he won’t be obliged to do by the courts.

Nazzywish · 03/07/2025 22:18

Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:22

It’s not court ordered. We made an agreement ourselves when we split up and it hasn’t really changed since then amount wise. Marginally reduced but he does have her slightly more now.

He didn’t increase the amount or subsidise in any way when he couldn’t have DD for various reasons. This is the first time he’s done something like this.

Get to court OP and iron this all out properly. He's taking the Mickey because your allowing him to and will co tonue to do so because he doesn't respect you

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/07/2025 23:05

Hi there
He is awful - the child maintenance would only dock his amount if it was for a longer time. I think you need to look at the last year and show him, and remind him of the days he missed, and then show over a year he hadn't gone into a different bracket and therefore should still pay the same.

Who has signed the contract with school, I assume both of you? So he should be tied into that. Would he call your bluff and stop paying school fees?

Can you get a friend to look at his linked in and then ask chat gpt what he salary including bonus would be?

If you took him to a private fdr you'd likely have him forced to pay school fees in audition to child maintenance but I understand it's a risk.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/07/2025 23:06

I would speak to a lawyer who can advise you on likely outcome of private fdr

JMSA · 03/07/2025 23:11

ARSEHOLE!!!! 😡
It’s so unfair, isn’t it OP? I speak as a single mother who has the world’s most rigid thinking and high-earning (well, maybe not the world’s most!) ex husband.
You are wonderful x

Charliecatpaws · 03/07/2025 23:13

I can’t get over the fact that twice a month he picks her up at 4.30 on Friday and drops her off at 10.30 on Saturday? She’s asleep for most of those hours. He’s an arsehole of the highest degree

Lavendarrainbow · 04/07/2025 10:58

Charliecatpaws · 03/07/2025 23:13

I can’t get over the fact that twice a month he picks her up at 4.30 on Friday and drops her off at 10.30 on Saturday? She’s asleep for most of those hours. He’s an arsehole of the highest degree

I know! I realise now he’s done that increase his days past a threshold to pay less!

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Lavendarrainbow · 04/07/2025 11:03

Update:

He has sent me a little more money but still charged me £30 per day for having our child whilst I was unwell.

This extra time didn’t change the CM bracket we are in as he likes to keep to just above the minimum to make it cheaper for him.

Still undecided as to taking this legal or not. I would like him to contribute to half her school fees and preferably her 11+ tutoring too. We have 2 years of primary school left before she heads to a grammar or state senior school.

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