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Ex charging me for being unwell

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Lavendarrainbow · 03/07/2025 21:12

I am the main carer for DD (9). Her dad sees her every other weekend and on a Friday where he collects her from school at 4:30pm and drops her home Saturday morning at 10am. He has her for 15-20% of school holidays. His choice.

He provides child maintenance that he has varied downwards once by 5% in 5 years. He gave no reason for this.

He now has her more than he did at the start of the 5 years (one more day per week equivalent bracket) and has since had another child. He’s was on 6 figures when we split and I can’t imagine that his salary has not increased in that time.

Recently DD had an infection and he refused to care for her over that weekend as he didn’t want to catch it. I agreed and cared for DD. She was off school the following week too and I took time off work to look after her. Once she was well enough she went to her dads for his weekend.

I unfortunately caught the infection but it developed into a severe infection that left me hospitalised and temporarily blinded. He had to keep her an extra 8 nights whilst I recovered enough to be able to care for DD. Once I was well enough (barely) I had her back with me.

Now, he has, for those extra 8 nights ‘charged me’ 50% of the maintenance and given me only half of the monthly amount.
This is the first time he’s had her when I’ve been unwell as he is usually too busy and I have had my family and friends help or hired someone to help me if it was bad. I once got stranded in another country and couldn’t make it back for 2 days and he refused to keep her and dropped her with my DM.

The many times he has been unwell and I have changed my plans to look after her are numerous! He cancelled his weekend when she was ill, when he was ill, when his parents didn’t want him to see her incase he got ill and passed it onto them. When his partner was ill, when his baby was unwell. When he hurt his back. When he’s had work trips. There are a lot and not once have I ‘charged’ him for this privilege. I simply did it as a healthy co-parent and for my daughter.

So I’m really angry at him for doing this and feel it opens the door for him doing this again or me doing it. It’s just super unhealthy! Am I being unreasonable or is he? Any advice on what to do?!

Yes- you are being unreasonable
No- he is being unreasonable

On another note…He won’t disclose his salary. So I have no clue if he is even paying the right amount! He used to contribute 50% of her school fees but has refused to increase the amount over the years and with fees going up yearly plus VAT, he’s now only paying around 30% of DD school fees. I pay for all her extra curricular activities and 11+ tuition too as he claims he can’t afford it. I’m a single parent with another child from a previous relationship and I earn less than him and his partners combined income.

OP posts:
Mrsttcno1 · 04/07/2025 11:27

Personally I think I’d just go formally via CMS here, I wouldn’t wait and be reliant on essentially his good will to get X amount a month and allow him to pick and choose what to send as it suits him and to his own rules.

SamDeanCas · 04/07/2025 11:29

Go via CMS! It’s likely he’s still in the same overnight stay bracket, even with an extra 8 days so what he’s done is awful and very very petty.

SamDeanCas · 04/07/2025 11:31

Oh and I’d charge him for the extra days you had your dd when HE was ill

NewsdeskJC · 04/07/2025 11:41

What a cock.
In reality if you have 2 more years of prep and he is coughing up half the fees without complaint and paying roughly what he should in child maintenance, then I'd say it ain't worth rocking the boat now.
The second she has finished year 6 I would put in a CMS claim, so he can't dick about in future.
Revenge is a dish best served cold and all that.

Lavendarrainbow · 04/07/2025 14:30

NewsdeskJC · 04/07/2025 11:41

What a cock.
In reality if you have 2 more years of prep and he is coughing up half the fees without complaint and paying roughly what he should in child maintenance, then I'd say it ain't worth rocking the boat now.
The second she has finished year 6 I would put in a CMS claim, so he can't dick about in future.
Revenge is a dish best served cold and all that.

Basically currently the entire child maintenance goes towards his shortfall in his ‘half’ of the school fees, clubs and 11+ tuition. I then, on top of that, pay my half of the school fees and general living expenses.plus I do most the running around and arranging / paying for childcare when I’m working in the holidays as he won’t have her any extra. Aaaagh!

It just seems so unfair as is, let alone with him charging me for sickness days that are not on the schedule.

You’re right, he’s a cock!

OP posts:
bugalugs45 · 04/07/2025 17:17

Just going by what you’re saying £30 a day , so are you getting somewhere in the region of £900 maintenance? I’m not saying he’s right but that’s a lot of money if so , but yes of course he can afford it
& I'm very jealous of the amount lol

bellamorgan · 04/07/2025 17:24

I would be very careful. Unless his completely minted or has other children at private school or she has a SEN reason to be at a private school it’s unlikely you’ll be able to get it court ordered. He could also argue his new child wouldn’t be going to private school or that the agreement was only ever for primary school and sounds like she’s near the end of that now.

If you believe he is paying what CMS would say is correct you could lose what he does pay towards school fee’s if you went to court.

The risk is yours to weigh up. His a knob tho we can all agree.

Anotherparkingthread · 04/07/2025 17:30

I think the most shocking thing here is he believes that most of the cost of your daughter is feeding her and day to day stuff and not making sure she has a home, with all bills paid etc that will still be waiting for her if her mum needs to go into hospital. It's like he thinks that the maintained is your babysitter money. What a fucking tool lol

GiveDogBone · 04/07/2025 19:18

It sounds like he’s well aware of the CMS formula and is paying you exactly what he should be paying you under that plus half her school fees. The adjustment for your illness is just petty and vindictive, BUT it’s not a significant amount of money in the scheme of things. And he can get ill as well.

So:

  1. All the people advising you to go to CMS are idiots, worst case you risk losing the school fee money, best case you get what you get now and they take their cut.
  2. This whole “pick her up at 6.30pm, drop her back at 10.30am” needs to stop. Just post blank refuse and set a 24hour minimum.
DownsideUpside · 04/07/2025 19:27

SamDeanCas · 04/07/2025 11:31

Oh and I’d charge him for the extra days you had your dd when HE was ill

This. I’d trawl through messages, diary etc and make a complete itemised list of every time he hasn’t had DD due to illness etc.

Pessismistic · 04/07/2025 22:58

Hi op sorry to hear you were not well enough to look after your dd. Your ex is an absolute twat what type of father doesn’t step up for his own kid. Each time I read posts like this it winds me up so much I bet you feel like telling him to go fuck himself at times. So selfish it’s a hard one about the money would you say he gives you enough to house her, feed her and clothe her? Honestly it’s horrible that he’s charged you 30 quid each day to take care of his own flesh and blood. I would definitely be making notes of all his failures/changes in case you do ever need to go to court also screenshot every text he sends you that relates to dd. He barely spends any real time with her. If he’s doing this just to save him maintenance he’s a bigger twat than I first thought I’m just glad he is your ex.

Lavendarrainbow · 05/07/2025 11:11

bugalugs45 · 04/07/2025 17:17

Just going by what you’re saying £30 a day , so are you getting somewhere in the region of £900 maintenance? I’m not saying he’s right but that’s a lot of money if so , but yes of course he can afford it
& I'm very jealous of the amount lol

The charge he’s given doesn’t relate to the amount he gives. I don’t know where he got the number from to be honest! He does give me the minimum amount based on his salary that I know he had 5 years ago, which will be a lot lower than his current salary.

After some research, I am pretty sure he now pushed into the higher rate (£156,000) for income. Which leads me to believe I could look for a top up order to at least have him contribute half of her school fees as opposed to an ever dwindling percentage! Does anyone know if it needs to be £156k or above exactly or would for example £149 be considered? Thank you.

I am going to have a chat with a family lawyer about it all as I fear this sudden decision to charge me for absolutely no reason will spill onto other months and school fees etc.

OP posts:
TwinklySquid · 05/07/2025 18:11

I couldn’t live like that- with him deciding how and when you get maintenance.

Personally, even if it meant my daughter had to go to a different school, I would go via CMS. They wouldn’t tolerate his deductions. Especially if you kept a note of them and the days he hasn’t had her too. I would rather get less money, but know it’s coming in every month, than more but be under someone’s thumb.

Stop giving him the control of deciding your finances. Yes, that means tough decisions like removing your daughter from private school but if he has another child, you have no idea if he will keep paying for private school for one and not the other.

mathanxiety · 05/07/2025 18:21

You need to get a shit hot solicitor and take this festering bucket of pond scum to court.

He should be served with a motion demanding he show proof of income and one demanding he pay what he owed you, the money he withheld.

Vaxtable · 05/07/2025 18:24

Just list all the time you have had her when he should have had her. It will cross each other out

MarthaFarquar · 05/07/2025 19:22

The ex appears to be treating the OP as a outsourced service provider/ employee who provides childcare, stable home for his child. He has sought to negotiate minimal input/ expense for maximum output (healthy, happy, well educated, and well cared for child).

By paying less after OP was unable to fulfil the parenting role he has effectively docked the OPs ‘wages’.

Men are transactional.

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