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To think people are more selfish now?

54 replies

AlertCat · 02/07/2025 20:31

My theory is that for a long time, there’s been progress towards individuals doing what they want in terms of personal freedom to marry, wear, do what they like as a hobby. Etc. Which is good!

But this has developed into a culture in which individuals have either forgotten that they still belong to a community, or have decided that what they want trumps other people’s preferences for everything .

For example, everyone should be left alone to live how they want to in their own home. On the other hand, this shouldn’t extend to them playing loud music, or using power tools, at any time of the day or night. (Unless they live in
a very isolated home.)

Other examples might include dropping rubbish, parking inconsiderately, listening to music or Instagram reels without headphones on the train…

AIBU to think more people have stopped considering their neighbours when deciding to use noisy things, or am I getting old and will soon be talking about ‘back in my day…’?

(And yes, my neighbour has just decided to go outside with some sort of angle grinder and start stripping his fence or his shed or something. At 8:30 on a sunny Wednesday evening.)

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MarigoldsOnTheMoon · 04/07/2025 13:42

I see your point generally @JohnTheRevelator but you don't know a stranger doesn't need that seat just as much as the person asking for it . I don't look disabled but I am and sometimes I have had to say no to other people with disabilities asking me to move. If both are disabled the one who is already seated gets to stay in that seat. One disability doesn't trump another . Yes I've said no to people with down syndrome, elderly people with sticks, people with cerebral palsy . Because there is no such thing as disability top trumps. Just like if someone says no to me when I ask for a seat seat I just have to wait for the next bus . It's a hassle but it's the way life is sometimes .

MittyMat · 04/07/2025 13:58

MarigoldsOnTheMoon · 04/07/2025 13:42

I see your point generally @JohnTheRevelator but you don't know a stranger doesn't need that seat just as much as the person asking for it . I don't look disabled but I am and sometimes I have had to say no to other people with disabilities asking me to move. If both are disabled the one who is already seated gets to stay in that seat. One disability doesn't trump another . Yes I've said no to people with down syndrome, elderly people with sticks, people with cerebral palsy . Because there is no such thing as disability top trumps. Just like if someone says no to me when I ask for a seat seat I just have to wait for the next bus . It's a hassle but it's the way life is sometimes .

I agree.
I remember being sat in the bus station waiting for a bus - heavily pregnant in the heat with 2 hidden disabilities that cause me pain, a group of pensioners arrived (all upright, none with sticks or anything aged around 70) and the man in the group snapped at me to “move”, and proceeded to tell me I was disgusting for taking a seat when there were pensioners waiting. I foolishly moved and he continued to berate me. I would never move again unless it was very obvious the person needed it more than me.

MovingOnMovingOn · 04/07/2025 14:04

I agree absolutely. Even how people behave to family and friends. No obligation/ responsibility just is it right for Meeee

Bushmillsbabe · 04/07/2025 14:06

YellowGrey · 04/07/2025 07:35

Personally I don't agree. I was born in the 70s and maybe it was just the area I lived in, but I'm sure that littering was worse then than it is now.

And the sports club rotated thing. Surely that's just because there are fewer SAHMs than there used to be? So people (understandably) have less time to volunteer, rather than being intrinsically more selfish.

They have time to drop off, to stand outside chatting with other mums for 10 mins after drop off and then return 30 mins later with a Costa cup in hand.

Also, it's made clear when signing up that there will be requests for volunteers and all parents are expected to help once a term minimum. Surely 1 hour x 3 per year is not an unreasonable request when volunteers are there evety week, plus use own time to plan activities. But if someone really doesn't have capacity, then they should make that clear at time of sign up, as if there are too many people in this position then sessions cannot run, and their child may need to wait a bit longer to join the group.

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