Rachel Reeves crying in the House of Commons

[IdaGlossop]

AIBU to think it's possible to feel sympathy for Rachel Reeves for being visibly upset at Prime Minister's Question Time today, even if you revile Labour and its policies?

Lots of misogyny on Twitter - the UK is a laughing stock because of the behaviour of menopausal women in the Commons (including an example of Stella Creasy with her baby in a sling asleep and another of Angela Rayner flashing); women can't hack it etc etc.

I can only imagine it must feel dreadful to know the world has watched you in distress and that the financial markets have reacted because of fears of government instability. The phrase 'bring your whole self to work' is a piece of HR speak I can't abide but what we saw today was Rachel Reeves doing just that. Despite my sympathy for her, it would have been better all round for the upset part of her to have stayed in her Downing Street flat.

I don't feel sorry for her.
And I don't buy this ' it's a personal issue ' either
If it's a family problem then she should have stayed out of the commens

The thing is, everyone knew Boris was a shit. He threw a bunch of people under the bus when it suited him.

Starmer is just as bad, only for some reason
people didn’t expect it.

The HoC is a bear pit - often a very unpleasant one. It would have been peculiar for Badenoch not to bring it up - she is there to oppose the government.

It isn’t as though crying in the HoC is something that had no consequences.

Was that when it was hard to tell if he was crying or trying to hide that he was laughing?

How do you know what personal issues she has?

This is how I feel about it too

As much as I have no sympathy for Reeves I agree Badenoch was out of order. She’s there to challenge their politics, not make personal remarks.

They all behave like children in the HoC. No professionalism or personal integrity. They make me cringe.

Boris has a posh voice and a penis. It's an untouchable combination.

Unfortunately, crying publicly at work impacts your work - staff cannot cry in front of patients, clients, customers. And in this case it impacted the markets, as she is the treasurer for this country.

Sleeping around and having multiple children with multiple women does not whether you are doctor, solicitor, teacher, waiter, pilot, politician etc, (provided you get enough sleep between all the shagging, of course)

So a woman showing human emotion at work utterly undermines her professional reputation but a man showing a complete lack of integrity and responsibility doesn’t.

Reeves let herself down in the workplace… in the HoC where she was in full view of the worlds press as our Chancellor.

Not the same as shagging around in your time off.

Sure if you want to think of it that way 🙄.
Comments like this are a backwards step for feminism.

It wouldn’t matter if a woman was shagging around either. Or a male politician crying in the Commons. Or male or female politician swearing and ranting - whatever way they display their behaviour due to personal issues.

So did i get thet right.... ?

Showing emotion at work = no no no

Consistent cheating and dishonesty in every relationship in your personal life, been caught lying several times at work = nothing to see here, crack on with the top job Boris

Caught lying at work about work, no.

Think of all the working people you have encountered in your life. How many have cried in front you when you were their client?
I don’t mean crying with a colleague but in a client facing role.
How many may have had affairs, questionable morals (I don’t mean illegal or unethical practices) - you would have no idea because it is not relevant.

Well in fairness he was also caught lying at work, to the queen no less. If only he’d shed a tear in the Commons…

I have never said that was acceptable.

Actually I’ve had both teachers and medical staff shed a tear in my presence occasionally, and a lawyer, and a social worker. All appropriate and actually quite touching given the reasons for their emotions.

Ok sure

Emily was a very brave woman. Kier Hardy was one of the few people who visited Emily when she was in prison. Nonetheless she disapproved of her daughter's friendship with Hardy because he was not a ' gentleman '. I imagine she'd have been happy to see a woman Chancellor but dismayed that it wasn't someone of her own social class.

Affairs are hugely relevant when they are with colleagues or key contractors etc. they can create massive conflicts of interest

Actually I have experienced two of each at work:

The ones who cried...
One had been put in an area where they had no expertise, once they had some training they blossomed
The other was under huge pressure with impossible workload. By far the most capable, intelligent and hard working person in my team in a large organisation. Shedding a few tears had no effect in their capabilities or the respect they command in our organisation.

The two cheaters / liars:
Flakey, unreliable, troublemakers, known to cover up mistakes and try to blame others for their errors. Was glad to see them go. One of them is on their third marriage, adult children not talking to them, known in our profession as someone you wouldn't touch with a bargepole

HTH

Totally agree. I don't think she did herself any favours there. Just came across a nasty playground bully.

Agree.

I have also experienced a scenario where people were going to a director complaining about their bully of a boss and completely unaware the (married) director was shagging said (married) boss. When it all came out people were mortified

And what about affairs conducted (or pursued) on work time when they should have been doing their actual job.

Or affairs where there is a huge power dynamic at play.

Or affairs which result in someone getting promoted above their ability level.

Or affairs which result in a great employee having to leave when it all inevitably ends in chaos

Another child is leaving my children's school, thanks to her VAT hike. I'm sure he and his parents have cried over it.
I have no sympathy for this vile woman.

People are unhinged with this. KB was the least of Reeves’ issues. Starmer and her party are causing enough distress.