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Rachel Reeves crying in the House of Commons

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IdaGlossop · 02/07/2025 17:50

AIBU to think it's possible to feel sympathy for Rachel Reeves for being visibly upset at Prime Minister's Question Time today, even if you revile Labour and its policies?

Lots of misogyny on Twitter - the UK is a laughing stock because of the behaviour of menopausal women in the Commons (including an example of Stella Creasy with her baby in a sling asleep and another of Angela Rayner flashing); women can't hack it etc etc.

I can only imagine it must feel dreadful to know the world has watched you in distress and that the financial markets have reacted because of fears of government instability. The phrase 'bring your whole self to work' is a piece of HR speak I can't abide but what we saw today was Rachel Reeves doing just that. Despite my sympathy for her, it would have been better all round for the upset part of her to have stayed in her Downing Street flat.

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Boomer55 · 02/07/2025 18:53

i, along with everyone else, do not know what she was crying about. But Chancellors need a thick skin and nerves of steel. She’s failed and affecting the markets, which affect us all.

She needs to go.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 18:55

She was distressed. Then I watch a few minutes of Starmer’s arrogance at PMQs and think sod them. They’ve brought it on themselves.

CurlewKate · 02/07/2025 18:56

Namechangetry · 02/07/2025 18:44

She's making women in positions of power look like they can't hack it. I'm sorry I know if you're a minority you shouldn't be held up as an example of everyone in that minority but we all know that you will be. She should have claimed illness or family emergency if she couldn't keep it together.

And you think claiming illness or a family emergency would have stopped the misogynists?

Spectre8 · 02/07/2025 18:57

And how many people have cried cos of the decisions she has made and she didn't have any empathy or sympathy for them.

This is the one job you don't cry infront of people or tv.

Abhannmor · 02/07/2025 19:00

InterestQ · 02/07/2025 18:51

I wish she hadn’t cried - perhaps there are other chancellors of the exchequer who have but I don’t know of any. Whatever is going on, however much sympathy one has for her as a person doing a difficult job - rather badly unfortunately - it doesn’t look good.

I did expect Labour to resist the PIP thing as that’s sort of what they’re for but if they end up costing the taxpayer MORE, then they will show what amateurs they are. I don’t think they want to do the wrong thing but they keep doing it.

edited for typo

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You want PIP but not to have to pay for it. Sweet tap dancing Jesus on a hoverboard.

Namechangetry · 02/07/2025 19:01

CurlewKate · 02/07/2025 18:56

And you think claiming illness or a family emergency would have stopped the misogynists?

Of course not but she's have have plausible deniability and could have had a come back that would put them in the wrong saying they're heartless or inappropriate or something. Now there's no way to spin it. I don't care about how she looks but I care she's making women look bad

NaySaidThe · 02/07/2025 19:04

Absolutely no sympathy for her, she’s led a smug spiteful campaign against privately educated children with utterly no empathy. Like any bully, she’s shown herself to be a coward.

tara66 · 02/07/2025 19:10

Emily Pankhurst is buried at Brompton Cemetery near Earls Court - if anyone round there sees her wafting about looking cross please have a word and let us know what she thinks..

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 19:11

Zero sympathy. I heard shes at risk of loosing her job in the upcoming weeks.

ravenclaw7017 · 02/07/2025 19:13

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howshouldibehave · 02/07/2025 19:13

She looked wobbly but was she actually crying-I couldn't see a tear??

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 19:15

howshouldibehave · 02/07/2025 19:13

She looked wobbly but was she actually crying-I couldn't see a tear??

Yes it’s clear in the closer up clip

LaurieFairyCake · 02/07/2025 19:15

I’m happy she cried. And I think anyone saying she can’t hack it because she cried and ought to have covered up emotion is validating misogyny.

Crying does not mean you can’t make rational decisions.

Crying simply means your emotions are showing.

We need to change the narrative, not just pretend to be more repressed.

Fuck that shit 💩

MoominUnderWater · 02/07/2025 19:17

socks1107 · 02/07/2025 18:03

Well she brought some pretty silly decisions to the table and it has backfired on her.
My daughter’s part time job is closing because of the NI hikes and goodness knows where she’ll find work when she graduates in six weeks. That’s a worry I feel daily as does my daughter and countless others in the country. She should have been more professional today but she absolutely needs to go

Agree. The company my Dd worked for fired everyone and the boss has gone solo.

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 19:18

Namechangetry · 02/07/2025 19:01

Of course not but she's have have plausible deniability and could have had a come back that would put them in the wrong saying they're heartless or inappropriate or something. Now there's no way to spin it. I don't care about how she looks but I care she's making women look bad

No she isn't. If a woman cries at work should she resign then as that is the only acceptable thing to do on behalf of all women? I've cried at work in an all male team, I didn't resign, they just accepted that is what women are like🙄oh no, hang on they realised my contribution to the company, my tacit knowledge of the business, importantly my contribution to profit margins, is probably worth retaining. Shock horror, I think I even saw a man cry at work once, he is surely letting men down with that display of weakness, should he have resigned?

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 19:19

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 19:18

No she isn't. If a woman cries at work should she resign then as that is the only acceptable thing to do on behalf of all women? I've cried at work in an all male team, I didn't resign, they just accepted that is what women are like🙄oh no, hang on they realised my contribution to the company, my tacit knowledge of the business, importantly my contribution to profit margins, is probably worth retaining. Shock horror, I think I even saw a man cry at work once, he is surely letting men down with that display of weakness, should he have resigned?

Are not "is".

Namechangetry · 02/07/2025 19:23

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 19:18

No she isn't. If a woman cries at work should she resign then as that is the only acceptable thing to do on behalf of all women? I've cried at work in an all male team, I didn't resign, they just accepted that is what women are like🙄oh no, hang on they realised my contribution to the company, my tacit knowledge of the business, importantly my contribution to profit margins, is probably worth retaining. Shock horror, I think I even saw a man cry at work once, he is surely letting men down with that display of weakness, should he have resigned?

No I think it's ok to cry at work (either sex), I did once, but not in the house of commons on international tv. Cry in your office, or the toilets, not on the front bench being filmed when you're supposed to be inspiring confidence in your leadership and skills and steering the country.

Loadsapandas · 02/07/2025 19:24

I cannot help but think of a dignified Diane Abbott standing and being ignored 40 times in that chamber listening to people discussing a death threat against her.

I don’t remember this outpouring of sympathy for that.

Yuja · 02/07/2025 19:28

I feel very sorry for her to be honest. I find people have been vile on social media. Perhaps she should have found a reason not to go rather than become emotional at that point, but it can happen to anyone under pressure.

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 02/07/2025 19:29

As long as she's not one of those people that can dish it out, but can't take it, I'm sympathetic. PM's questions plays out like a pointless weekly pantomime serving mainly to keep political media types in jobs, anyway.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 19:30

Yuja · 02/07/2025 19:28

I feel very sorry for her to be honest. I find people have been vile on social media. Perhaps she should have found a reason not to go rather than become emotional at that point, but it can happen to anyone under pressure.

It’s more likely her own party causing upset.

allamberedover · 02/07/2025 19:31

Crying does not mean you can’t make rational decisions.Crying simply means your emotions are showing.
This times 1000

dottiedodah · 02/07/2025 19:32

I think she is her own worst enemy. She magnified her record of working in the bank .Struggled to read the room when WFA was taken away and it has been a shitshow TBH.She should resign ASAP.A decent Accountant from Surrey could have done better. Being upset is hard for her .it would have been better to have had a day off.today

doodleschnoodle · 02/07/2025 19:32

I’ve cried at work before: if I am angry or frustrated about something then it comes out as tears. I can’t really help or control it but I do stay rational etc., it’s just a physical response And there is a suggestion that an argument with the Speaker prior was to blame, so who knows. Another report says it’s a personal matter.

Should she have just not showed up for work? I think it’s pretty brave to sit there knowing that you’re about to have a zillion horrible headlines written about you, regardless of what you think about her decisions or politics. Can’t have been a nice day at work for her.

wildflowersdontcarewheretheygrow · 02/07/2025 19:33

Namechangetry · 02/07/2025 18:44

She's making women in positions of power look like they can't hack it. I'm sorry I know if you're a minority you shouldn't be held up as an example of everyone in that minority but we all know that you will be. She should have claimed illness or family emergency if she couldn't keep it together.

This
And women full stop. Plays into us 'being emotional' whereas men are called passionate.
If it had been a male politician crying what would have been said.